Lord_Ikka Posted Thursday at 11:24 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:24 AM Seems like a good idea to have a conman/slimy git as the Annointed, so Crux'as will gladly take up the mantle. I don't think he'll dedicate the compact to a specific deity, as while Atesh and Crux'as would probably be fine with Tzeentch, Xerxes would not. So a dedication to the entire Pantheon would be appropriate- Nurgle would be better if we were actually going to poison the foodstuffs, but we are just here for a quick looksee. FabiusV4lcoran, Xin Ceithan, Machine God and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 11:31 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 11:31 AM It is done. In other news: Infamy Acquisitions going to the Tigress; going twice... Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted Thursday at 11:55 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:55 AM 26 minutes ago, Lord_Ikka said: ...while Atesh and Crux'as would probably be fine with Tzeentch, Xerxes would not. Xerxes has been more outsider than pantheon worshipper and doesn't know enough about the warp and its politics to care at this stage what colour dust the crazies are throwing around the room while chanting, provided it is not pink. He still views much of it in the same way as he would have viewed Imperial priests throwing down their blessings, and appreciates the need to placate the daemon-god of a possessed weapon in the same way one might need to seek the favour of a machine spirit when you need to turn it off and on again. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted Thursday at 12:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:15 PM Well, until we have a specific need or want some bonuses that will be extremely relevant, I think Undivided will work- the Gods can watch us, all of them, and give us whatever blessings they may choose. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 12:18 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 12:18 PM Armpit tentacles? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 12:27 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:27 PM (edited) 58 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: It is done. In other news: Infamy Acquisitions going to the Tigress; going twice... I think you mentioned somewhere above that she might be leaving some equipment for the strike team? I assume it isn't needed for us to Acquire that now (because we don't yet have the info as to what we will actually need)? This is for other personal gear that we might want to try to Acquire, right? I think I'm good for weapons, etc again with the usual caveat of wanting to make Heart-Eater > Legacy Weapon! Eventually, I guess I'd quite like to Acquire an Infernal Star forcefield generator (probably built into/ combined with his Trophy Rack?) but that's probably a bit more 'Chaos Lord' than 'Aspiring Champion' so I'll probably just wait for Hagga's Infamy to rise a bit further before trying for that...? Edited Thursday at 12:30 PM by Lysimachus Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 12:32 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 12:32 PM 1 minute ago, Lysimachus said: I think you mentioned somewhere above that she might be leaving some equipment for the strike team? I assume it isn't needed for us to Acquire that now (because we don't yet have the info as to what we will actually need)? This is so, but the Acquisition stuff is for the infil team, as they haven't got much, and AT mentioned bits and pieces to help, so it's really more for them at the moment. 1 minute ago, Lysimachus said: Eventually, I guess I'd quite like to Acquire an Infernal Star forcefield, but that's probably a bit more 'Chaos Lord' than 'Aspiring Champion' so I'll probably just wait for Hagga's Infamy to rise a bit further before trying for that...? I think that's a 'down the road' item, yes, but not impossible if you become scourge of the wastes. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted Thursday at 01:09 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:09 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord_Ikka said: Well, until we have a specific need or want some bonuses that will be extremely relevant, I think Undivided will work- the Gods can watch us, all of them, and give us whatever blessings they may choose. Honestly I think either Slaanesh or Tzeentch would be directly applicable, the former for the Fellowship bonus and thus charm/deceive tests, the latter for numerous lore and practical skills through the Intelligence bonus. But it's your call. Things that may be of use to the infil team: - Scrap-code generator - Near Unique (-50) - Comm Leach - Extremely Rare (-30) - Forgery Kit - Extremely Rare (-30) - Cartograph - Very Rare (-20) - Combi-tools - Very Rare (-20) - Disguise kit - very rare (-20) - Signal Jammer - Very Rare (-20) - Torture Tools - Very Rare (-20) - Multikey - Rare (-10) - Rebreather masks - Rare (-10) - Chronos - Scarce (+0) - Microbeads - Scarce (+0) - Data-slate - Average (+10) - Medikits - Average (+10) - Recaf - Common (+20) Edited Thursday at 02:00 PM by Necronaut Added shopping list item recommendations Mazer Rackham, Machine God and Lysimachus 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 01:39 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 01:39 PM @Necronaut, can you do me a favour when you have a second, and itemise these into categories of Rarity? If stuff is common enough, it's an auto-get, and the team can use Acquisitions to get the higher up stuff (if possible). Necronaut and Machine God 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted Thursday at 01:50 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:50 PM 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: Hide contents again with the usual caveat of wanting to make Heart-Eater > Legacy Weapon! Even though it says in The Errata that Legacy Weapons aren't a thing. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 01:53 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 01:53 PM 1 minute ago, Machine God said: Even though it says in The Errata that Legacy Weapons aren't a thing. That's correct, as far as the Core book goes - the Legacy weapons do appear in the Tomes IIRC. If a person be worthy, lucky and not very dead or a spawn, we can look at it later on. Yes, that is me kicking the can down the road, but no-one has done near enough of anything yet to just lay their hands on a Legacy or Daemon artefact, despite your crazy Peril rolls to the contrary. Necronaut, Lysimachus and Machine God 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted Thursday at 01:57 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:57 PM (edited) Added campaign modified availability of each item in my list, and organized by rarity (alphabetically). Edited Thursday at 02:00 PM by Necronaut Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 01:59 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:59 PM (edited) 9 minutes ago, Machine God said: Even though it says in The Errata that Legacy Weapons aren't a thing. No, they aren't in the crb, but they are in Tome of Blood. I've always felt that they were always intended to be in the crb, but they basically ran out of space, hence the references to them throughout. In any case, yes I know Mazer has said we are sticking to crb in this game, and I'm cool with whatever he decides. But I am hopeful that at some point as we make progress, he might allow a few bits and pieces from additional sources (as I think(?) has already happened with other bits of equipment that other players have taken) Edit: sorry, posts above as I was typing. Edited Thursday at 02:00 PM by Lysimachus Machine God, Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted Thursday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:04 PM @Lysimachus daemon weapons, buddy. Mazer Rackham and Machine God 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted Thursday at 02:08 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:08 PM 49 minutes ago, Necronaut said: - Scrap-code generator I've started Xerxes down that particular road with his collection and research into the effects of the necron data purging on the station. Seemed like something the character would build upon. At 'Extremely Rare' it is at the edge of Xerxes current acquisition though (-20 base before bonuses for using one of his left over infamy points, researching the necron code, starting out with a 'poor' version, etc). Something like a multikey by comparison is much easier to get for similar purposes (scarce base), similarly scanners. We'll all want a change or two of clothes - Crux'as depending on whether he wants to play the noble or the serf. Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 02:14 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 02:14 PM (edited) 28 minutes ago, Necronaut said: Added campaign modified availability of each item in my list, and organized by rarity (alphabetically). You absolute gem. Have a bourbon biscuit. 20 minutes ago, Necronaut said: @Lysimachus daemon weapons, buddy. Ahp-bap-bap-bap! *Snaps biscuit tin shut* Digestives I think,, to settle you down, sir. So, to business: Full Acquisition Tests needed: - Scrap-code generator - Near Unique (-50) - Comm Leach - Extremely Rare (-30) - Forgery Kit - Extremely Rare (-30) - Combi-tools - Very Rare (-20) - Disguise kit - Very rare (-20) - Signal Jammer - Very Rare (-20) - Torture Tools - Very Rare (-20) Equipment generated: - Multikey - Rare (-10) (Automatic Acquire x D3: 1) - Rebreather masks - Rare (-10) (Automatic Acquire x D3: 2) - Chronos - Scarce (+0) (Automatic Acquire x D6: 6) - Microbeads - Scarce (+0) (Automatic Acquire x D6: 3) - Data-slate - Average (+10) (Automatic Acquire x D8: 5) - Medikits - Average (+10) (Automatic Acquire x D8: 8) - Recaf - Common (+20) (Automatic Acquire x D10: 3) - Cartograph - Very Rare (These are so simple for an RT to provide, I'll make them automatic as well, but a single one). With thanks to Necro. Spoiler (Opens the biscuit tin, again. Go on, but don't tell anyone). EDIT: 16 minutes ago, A.T. said: We'll all want a change or two of clothes - Crux'as depending on whether he wants to play the noble or the serf. The clothes you can just say are on the ship - spare coveralls/menial, civvie stuff can be had with ease once Part Two starts..but finery might be an ask. Depends on what you boys want. Shout up and we'll deal. Edited Thursday at 02:26 PM by Mazer Rackham Necronaut and Lysimachus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 02:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:17 PM (edited) 14 minutes ago, Necronaut said: @Lysimachus daemon weapons, buddy. They've got their place, certainly, but in general I'm not a fan. It's a lot of work to put one together, and there's an awful lot that can go wrong in making it (-2d10 to every single Characteristic, whether the ritual works or not? Seriously??) and then they aren't very reliable once you've got one either! I can't see Hagga using one. Certainly not at this point in the game, especially, but even later on - he's a pragmatist, and he'd stick with what he knows works (which, incidentally, is why a Legacy Weapon would suit him down to the ground!) Honestly, if he'd rolled a DW on his first Khorne Gift, I'd have chucked it out the nearest airlock and kept walking... Edited Thursday at 02:18 PM by Lysimachus Machine God, Mazer Rackham and Necronaut 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted Thursday at 03:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:24 PM 1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said: Full Acquisition Tests needed: - Scrap-code generator - Near Unique (-50) Different editions of the book perhaps? Xerxes clearly needs to build up a stock of trading material if he is going to get the shinies with his infamy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted Thursday at 03:27 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:27 PM @A.T. specific to The Blackest Heart, all (or most) acquisition tests are one step more difficult reflecting our severely stretched supply lines due to operating within enemy territory and the general scuminess of being associated with the Red Corsairs. Mazer Rackham and Machine God 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted Thursday at 03:55 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:55 PM Perhaps Xerxes needs to talk nicely to Kraggan. One of the properties of his Fallen Magos Power Axe works very similar to a Scrap Code Generator. This is Black Crusade, we don't want any of your Nice Biscuits. We want proper Biscuits! Hobnobs with spikes. And for them that lean towards Grandfather: Garibaldi's with proper flies in them! Mazer Rackham and Necronaut 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted Thursday at 04:25 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:25 PM 18 minutes ago, Machine God said: Perhaps Xerxes needs to talk nicely to Kraggan. One of the properties of his Fallen Magos Power Axe works very similar to a Scrap Code Generator. Perhaps he'll build his own off-brand one in the future with what he learns from study of the necron data. In the short term a multikey and combi-tool should serve (IIRC there are penalties for failing wildly difficult). He could do with a staff though. Something metal and conductive that he can directed his luminen shock down, but also for poking people and ensuring correct minimum distance from the psyker... Necronaut, Machine God, Xin Ceithan and 2 others 1 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 04:30 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 04:30 PM 58 minutes ago, Necronaut said: @A.T. specific to The Blackest Heart, all (or most) acquisition tests are one step more difficult reflecting our severely stretched supply lines due to operating within enemy territory and the general scuminess of being associated with the Red Corsairs. Correct, that's the baseline, but as per BC rules, different things are more available in different places - for example, Ithyca is an Ecclesiarchy hold, moving to Kataris will make tech more available. Parts for a scrap generator would be easier to get, so not the item itself, but Xerxes is a dab hand at cobbling together. 30 minutes ago, Machine God said: This is Black Crusade, we don't want any of your Nice Biscuits. Haven't got Nice biscuits, got Malted Milk though. Machine God, Xin Ceithan and Necronaut 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted Thursday at 05:31 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:31 PM 1 hour ago, A.T. said: Perhaps he'll build his own off-brand one in the future with what he learns from study of the necron data. In the short term a multikey and combi-tool should serve (IIRC there are penalties for failing wildly difficult). He could do with a staff though. Something metal and conductive that he can directed his luminen shock down, but also for poking people and ensuring correct minimum distance from the psyker... Ye olde bronze-tipped barge pole, as it were. Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 05:35 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:35 PM Did you say 8th to kick off again, @Mazer Rackham? I'm properly champing at the bit to get going again! Machine God, Mazer Rackham, Xin Ceithan and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 05:59 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 05:59 PM (edited) 24 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Did you say 8th to kick off again, @Mazer Rackham? I'm properly champing at the bit to get going again! 'GM, are we there, yet?' 'No, Lysi, like the five minutes since you asked.' 'GM, Necro keeps sticking his tail in my ear!' 'Necro, stop sticking your tail in MG's ear...' 'GM, tell Lysi to stop throwing my Daemon Weapons out of the airlock!' 'Lysi, stop throwing Necro's toys out of the window.' 'GM, can we have a TPK?' 'You should have had one at the petrol station, Fabius. Now you'll have to wait.' Edited Thursday at 06:00 PM by Mazer Rackham Machine God, Xin Ceithan, Lysimachus and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/95/#findComment-6159578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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