40k Knight Questoris Defender + Codex: Imperial Knights

[prava]

16 hours ago, Matrindur said:

Huh they actually split up the Questoris again.

Or I guess its just adding another version since the only thing missing will be the Canis Rex sprue.

Also since the missile launcher rumour engine isn't here it might be for the Chaos Knights release?

 

Could it be that one of those boxes will be used for the chaotic variants? And yet both boxes will have an imperial-only sprue in them. Weird.

[Magos Takatus]

1 hour ago, sairence said:

I don't hate it. I probably would have prefered a new Armiger with a proper anti horde layout, as that's an actual gap in the army.

 

Curious how they'll stat it so it doesn't step on the toes of either the Crusader or the Castellan. 

I have mixed feelings about this. I do see this niche and it would be handy, but I do feel it would only hasten the factions' devolution from Imperial and Chaos Knights into Imperial/Chaos Squires even more. To me a Knight army focused on Armiger equivalents is like a space marine army focused mainly on scouts. Sure, you can do it, and right now the rules encourage it (In the case of Knights, not scouts, obviously), but it steps around the main selling point of the army.

 

I think I'd rather have a selection of big Knights on the table with a few cheap household infantry units mopping up and claiming objectives rather than a big Knight or two and water those down with a horde of baby Knights in order to gain board control. I'm not sure, as I said, I feel mixed on the situation. I do like the Armiger-class units, but I do think they are a bit over represented currently.

Edited 4 hours ago by Magos Takatus

[beefeb]

so its a new upgrade sprue packaged with the same old monopose legs!  what a disappointment!

[Nephaston]

26 minutes ago, prava said:

 

Could it be that one of those boxes will be used for the chaotic variants? And yet both boxes will have an imperial-only sprue in them. Weird.

Afaik chaos knights had their own questoris kit (called abhorrent) for a while now, coming with melty spooky faces, chains, spikes, digitigrade legs, and as of the abominant, birds and a tail.

Presumably they are currently not on the website for repackaging and including whatever the new variant needs in sprues.  As far as I can tell only base armiger/war dog chassis and dominus/tyrant kits remain shared.

[Valkyrion]

Plastic Void Shield means we're 1% closer to a plastic Warhound. 

[Karhedron]

2 hours ago, sairence said:

I don't hate it. I probably would have prefered a new Armiger with a proper anti horde layout, as that's an actual gap in the army.

 

Yes, the inflexibility of Armigers compared to Wardogs is a little frustrating.

  

2 hours ago, sairence said:

Curious how they'll stat it so it doesn't step on the toes of either the Crusader or the Castellan. 

 

That is a good question as at the moment it looks like a half-way house between the two. The Plasma cannon on the Castellan is only slightly better than the one on the Redemptor Dreadnought. It would be strange if the Defender's plasma cannon is weaker than one the Space Marines mount on their Dreadnoughts. 

 

The lack of melee weapons clearly makes comparisons to the Crusader inevitable. We can probably get an idea of the stats of the Conversion Beamer by looking at the Votan range. It will probably be another middling weapon with 2-4 attacks, S10, Ap-3 3D and Sustained Hits which will give Knights yet another tool for killing elite infantry. However since Deathguard seem to be pushing the elite infantry envelope at the moment, maybe that is not a bad thing.

[Mogger351]

1 hour ago, Nephaston said:

Afaik chaos knights had their own questoris kit (called abhorrent) for a while now, coming with melty spooky faces, chains, spikes, digitigrade legs, and as of the abominant, birds and a tail.

Presumably they are currently not on the website for repackaging and including whatever the new variant needs in sprues.  As far as I can tell only base armiger/war dog chassis and dominus/tyrant kits remain shared.

Chaos needed the questoris kit for one of their entries and some loadout pieces.

 

This split is interesting as they don't have the las-impulsor or canis rex. Which instead suggests they might get chrome dome here, and this becomes their box to share? It is diluting the loyalist faction if they do that though.

[Orange Knight]

I like this new Knight well enough. I'll look forward to the rules for that void shield.

 

Although, that being said - I recently sold off multiple Knights I own as I've been downsizing the collection.

[Jukkiz]

so it´s warden kit with extra tilt shield, faceplate, void shield on carapase and two new knight weapons?

[Karhedron]

37 minutes ago, Jukkiz said:

so it´s warden kit with extra tilt shield, faceplate, void shield on carapase and two new knight weapons?

 

 

I am not quite sure. I think we will have 5 questoris sprues once this new Knight drops.

• 2 core sprues that cover the chassis, Paladin and Errant
• Avenger/Crusader sprue that covers Fist, carapace weapons and Avenger gatling cannon.
• Preceptor sprue that has the Las Impulsor and pilot.
• Defender sprue which will have Plasma cannon, C-Beamer and Void shield

We will have to wait and see what combo of sprues GW settles on. It would be weird to include the Warden sprue with the Defender since it doesn't look like it will use any of the parts from it.

 

[Mogger351]

6 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

 

I am not quite sure. I think we will have 5 questoris sprues once this new Knight drops.

• 2 core sprues that cover the chassis, Paladin and Errant
• Avenger/Crusader sprue that covers Fist, carapace weapons and Avenger gatling cannon.
• Preceptor sprue that has the Las Impulsor and pilot.
• Defender sprue which will have Plasma cannon, C-Beamer and Void shield

We will have to wait and see what combo of sprues GW settles on. It would be weird to include the Warden sprue with the Defender since it doesn't look like it will use any of the parts from it.

 

It tells you on the article they're doing that, the only sprue different is the defender or preceptor sprue.

[Bouargh]

I've just noticed the stubber looks different too: more aligned with the AdMech design for Phosphor blasters than stubbers held by the previous versions of the knights.

Could it be a heavy phosphor blaster?