40k Knight Questoris Defender + Codex: Imperial Knights

[Indy Techwisp]

2 minutes ago, Focslain said:

So detachment preview is up. Warcom Article

 

Quick note, armigars apparently lost battline, there is a detachment that gives it back and give the babysitter multiple leashes. 

 

Outside of that these don't look too bad. 

 

Armigers losing Battleline tracks with the Chaos Knights changes, so it wasn't unexpected.

[Focslain]

7 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

Armigers losing Battleline tracks with the Chaos Knights changes, so it wasn't unexpected.

And Chaos has 5 datasheets to the Imperial 2, which is why I was hoping for them to keep it. But them's the breaks.

 

Luckily I already use the FW moriax in my lists which gives me an extra 3 if i need it. In fact my usual formation of 2 big/6 small fits well with the Spearhead at Arms detachment. Which is the armigar heavy one. 

[sairence]

Losing the feel no pain will hurt (literally) but is probably a good change.

 

The previewed stuff actually looks pretty cool though. Probably kind of a side-grade in terms of power, but feela like it should be a lot more interesting.

[01RTB01]

From glancing through, the rules seem quite 'faffy' with a lot to track. Also seems a lot better than their chaos counterparts?

[NTaW]

I'm glad I stopped building while the book was released, otherwise I'd have four Warglaives. Of all the things I was expecting this change wasn't one of them given that IK have 2 options to CK's 5. Ah well. The rules and points change so frequently it's nothing to get caught up with. Over all it looks interesting so far.

[Focslain]

53 minutes ago, NTaW said:

I'm glad I stopped building while the book was released, otherwise I'd have four Warglaives.

*looks at his 9 warglaives, 11 helverins and 6 moriaxs* Yeah, I stopped when I heard we were getting a new kit and hoped it was a armigar variant, maybe a plastic moriax. 

 

Anyway.... the Dauntless Defender detachment looks interesting. 

 

 

I like that they pre-empted an issue with some of the missions. Free tank shock on your front runner is a nice add and the bombardment strat boosts the crusader or helps out with the new defender and the castellan. Also a nice defensive buff to hold the line against those heavy hitters.

 

[Karhedron]

If you can get the combo of Titanic Bombardment and Drive Them Out on a shooty Knight then you should be able to delete almost anything on the tabletop.

[Osteoclast]

46 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

If you can get the combo of Titanic Bombardment and Drive Them Out on a shooty Knight then you should be able to delete almost anything on the tabletop.

Can’t do more than one stratagem on a unit per phase though, right?

[Focslain]

7 minutes ago, Osteoclast said:

Can’t do more than one stratagem on a unit per phase though, right?

The restriction tend to be in the strat itself, however there is no limit to the strats you can use on a unit. the once per phase is for the use of the strat, not it's target.

[NTaW]

4 hours ago, Focslain said:

*looks at his 9 warglaives, 11 helverins and 6 moriaxs*

 

Oof. I was considering that some people may only be able to use one Detachment depending on their Knight:Armiger ratio.

 

3 hours ago, Karhedron said:

If you can get the combo of Titanic Bombardment and Drive Them Out on a shooty Knight then you should be able to delete almost anything on the tabletop.

 

I'll be gunning for this combo at least once or twice 

[chapter master 454]

The defense line one is interesting because it has no restriction on what 2 objectives you use. You can use your opponents home objective along with your own to create a center line of death.

 

Though heroes of legend I think is quite potent still. Getting all 3 oaths done in a game isn't too tall an order, especially if you just ram-rod onto all 3 no-man objectives with the bonus move quality. Certainly a gamble but considering most big knights have a ton of OC, it will be hard for the opponent to flip 2 of those objectives fully.

 

I'm quite buzzed...finally getting the codex...finally...after all this time...finally...

[Emperor Ming]

How many dexs are left now with 11th around the corner?

[ThaneOfTas]

4 hours ago, Emperor Ming said:

How many dexs are left now with 11th around the corner?

Isn't it just Drukhari? Unless they drop a new one out of nowhere like Corsairs or Dark Mech, but Corsairs are probably going to get included in the Drukhari book at least for now I think. (Maybe next edition they, Harlequins, Ynnari and the ever rumoured Exodite killteam will get rolled into an Agent's style Aldari weirdos book)

[ZeroWolf]

5 hours ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Isn't it just Drukhari? Unless they drop a new one out of nowhere like Corsairs or Dark Mech, but Corsairs are probably going to get included in the Drukhari book at least for now I think. (Maybe next edition they, Harlequins, Ynnari and the ever rumoured Exodite killteam will get rolled into an Agent's style Aldari weirdos book)

Its actually a bit odd to only have Drukhari left to be fair (pretty sure no codex demons this edition). This point in 9th edition we were waiting on 3/4 if I recall correctly. Will be very interesting to see what the next few months turn out like for 40k

[Fenriwolf]

So, with the full rules being out there, the defender seems....eh.....

  

It has a strong ability that wants you to put it as the knight closest to the enemy. But it's also a purely shooting knight with a weapon that wants to be far from the enemy.  

  

It might have uses thrown in with castellans/crusaders/helverins i guess (especially the armigers, since it stole the warden bondsman ability) but at that point you risk building an army that folds if it gets touched in melee

Edited 1 hour ago by Fenriwolf