A Drukhari PBP RPG game?

[FabiusV4lcoran]

9 minutes ago, Xin Ceithan said:

 Only Caveat here I see is - what’s the Cabal of Dead Ink going to use?! 
 

The Club, obviously

 

( With the Drukhari game postponed, I haven’t gotten very far with hacking up a proper rune for the Cabal - though I’m looking into opening an Index Xenos file with the stuff I have and go from there once things settle down a bit … )

Maybe something with Dice for the gaming association? The icon is pretty small, though..

Maybe a Pair of d6 rolling out of a skull cup?

A ServoSkull with a d20 lens for the cybernetic eye?

 

 A drukhari game?  I'm new to the forum and I'm keeping an eye out for any pbp games that I can jump in on; you're making a drukhari game?

[Xin Ceithan]

47 minutes ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

 A drukhari game?  I'm new to the forum and I'm keeping an eye out for any pbp games that I can jump in on; you're making a drukhari game?

Welcome to both the B&C and the Nook @FabiusV4lcoran !

 

@Mazer Rackham  was kind enough to spring the idea of keeping some of us in the flow  with more a of laid back narrative style of games away back and we decided try looking into the Drukhari side of thing. I am sucker for world building and lore, so I waded into brewing something up for that and still have some of the scribbles and notes, so I’m thinking of putting them to work in the Liber or Drukhari section to expand on that. 

Recent events have put that idea on hold ATM. So, sadly no. There isn’t any Drukhari RPG currently on the Nook ( at least while I am writing this….)

 

But you’re certainly in the right place - there are a couple of games whose current story arc is closing up, so  there’ll surely be an opportunity for a game !

 

 

[FabiusV4lcoran]

Just now, Xin Ceithan said:

Welcome to both the B&C and the Nook @FabiusV4lcoran !

 

@Mazer Rackham  was kind enough to spring the idea of keeping some of us in the flow  with more a of laid back narrative style of games away back and we decided try looking into the Drukhari side of thing. I am sucker for world building and lore, so I waded into brewing something up for that and still have some of the scribbles and notes, so I’m thinking of putting them to work in the Liber or Drukhari section to expand on that. 

Recent events have put that idea on hold ATM. So, sadly no. There isn’t any Drukhari RPG currently on the Nook ( at least while I am writing this….)

 

But you’re certainly in the right place - there are a couple of games whose current story arc is closing up, so  there’ll surely be an opportunity for a game !

 

 

Thanks!  I'll definitely keep an eye out.  I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for your 'scribbles'.  They're a really interesting faction for sure.

[Trokair]

2 hours ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

 A drukhari game?  I'm new to the forum and I'm keeping an eye out for any pbp games that I can jump in on; you're making a drukhari game?

Welcome to the B&C and the Nook.

 

While the only game that is due to start in the near future already has all its slots filled and locked (I believe), there will be other in due course. So stick around and hang out, read a bit of the active games and settle in.

 

Or if you think you know what you are doing start your own game.  

[FabiusV4lcoran]

57 minutes ago, Trokair said:

Welcome to the B&C and the Nook.

 

While the only game that is due to start in the near future already has all its slots filled and locked (I believe), there will be other in due course. So stick around and hang out, read a bit of the active games and settle in.

 

Or if you think you know what you are doing start your own game.  

I've attempted a Dark Heresy game, but I'm gonna have to wait for things to calm down a bit IRL before I'm ready to try DMing again.  More time to plan!!!

[Black Cohort]

Welcome to the nook. 

I think a Drukhari campaign, while potentially interesting, would also be rather challenging to run.  Not in terms of mechanics, but in the story and themes.  The Dark eldar are bad people, to the point that even in 40k they rank pretty high on a "Who are the worst people in this setting" scale.  I don't see how you could run a Drukhari campaign without a pile of mature themes that many people don't want to deal with in their rpgs or that encourage problematic player actions.  It would have to be a campaign where the players and GM talked extensively about how to handle that, and what would be acceptable and not.  That level of effort would need a really awesome campaign idea to justify I think.

 

With 40k often being very Imperium of Man centric, from a worldbuilding/lore perspective there are plenty of areas that would also be very interesting to explore that I think would be less challenging.

[Xin Ceithan]

7 hours ago, Black Cohort said:

Welcome to the nook. 

I think a Drukhari campaign, while potentially interesting, would also be rather challenging to run.  Not in terms of mechanics, but in the story and themes.  The Dark eldar are bad people, to the point that even in 40k they rank pretty high on a "Who are the worst people in this setting" scale.  I don't see how you could run a Drukhari campaign without a pile of mature themes that many people don't want to deal with in their rpgs or that encourage problematic player actions.  It would have to be a campaign where the players and GM talked extensively about how to handle that, and what would be acceptable and not.  That level of effort would need a really awesome campaign idea to justify I think.

With 40k often being very Imperium of Man centric, from a worldbuilding/lore perspective there are plenty of areas that would also be very interesting to explore that I think would be less challenging.

100% agree here.  Mazer and I went over this all well.
 

Our idea was to make it more of a intrigue / backstabbing thing along a very clear line of story to keep the focus on, more of a Vampire the Masquerade thing.
With the idea of Blood and Carrion as a more narrative game with the focus on a single character and the post as you are able pacing, it was pretty much already the idea that more despicable things are handled offscreen anyway and subject to close screening and cooperation by player and DM at all times.

 

I’ve played and GM’ed VtM games, including some set among the Sabbat side - there is the potential for some great stories there if you avoid falling into the random murder hobo trope. As you say it’s fundamental to establish some groundwork with the group early on ( and propably to know your players as a GM ) to avoid having things getting out hand. 

 

The timeframe required on this alone would make it slow burn at any rate - coupled with my own rather erratic timetables and the need to establish a decent setting / world building (which I indeed think is the most important thing to make it more than murder elves in space ) means this a rather long term project at any rate.

 

7 hours ago, Black Cohort said:

With 40k often being very Imperium of Man centric, from a worldbuilding/lore perspective there are plenty of areas that would also be very interesting to explore that I think would be less challenging.

Agree also.

I’d love to see some games set amongst the Mechanicum, something like Noir WH Crime or some Cyberpunk style Underhive / Necromunda thing.

 

For the truly adventurous, I’d go for the full terror comedy of having an entire game set in the Administratum - the 40K version of “the Office”.

(which might be more horrifying than anything Drukhari TBH ) 

[FabiusV4lcoran]

Those are good points about the atrocities we might have to deal with with a Drukhari game; I definitely assumed it was more of a VtM-type Sabbat game like Xin was saying. It would definitely take a strong DM to make sure things stay on-task with plotting and backstabbing and realspace raids (I hope.)

 

I thinka  Cyberpunk Underhive or Noir WH Crime game both sound fascinating.  I'd really like to play a Black Crusade game just because I'm a major Chaos fan.

 

WH Crime definitely fits in with Dark Heresy.  I only DM'ed one scenario but it surrounded the cold trade and definitely has a noir feel over some of the more army-centered games (I'd imagine.)

[Mazer Rackham]

Good comments by all above, I'd say.

 

Just for idle curiosity....what flavour of Chaos are we talking, @FabiusV4lcoran?

[FabiusV4lcoran]

@Mazer Rackham I like a little bit of it all, but Tzeentch is definitely my favorite.  Magic, fire, and mutants.  My main three favorite parts of Chaos.  Ctesias in the Ahriman books is another favorite behind Fabius Bile and the Soul Hunter.

[Xin Ceithan]

Can’t see anything wrong with that. 
 

(Except maybe that the FFG games as a whole fail at portraying Alpha level psionics, sadly.  That, at least, is not Problem with a game about the Drukhari) 

[FabiusV4lcoran]

@Mazer Rackham Are you a Chaos fan too?  You have preferred flavors?

 

@Xin Ceithan  Cool!  My character is a Chaos Cultist mutant worshipper of Tzeentch whose mission is to cause a Chaos Incursion into the Dark City.  Do you need to see a character sheet, or am I good?  :-P

[Mazer Rackham]

16 minutes ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

@Mazer Rackham Are you a Chaos fan too?  You have preferred flavors?

 

My personal preferred flavour of chaos fans is =][= REDACTED BY INQUISITION =][=

 

 Was just curious as to your interests.

 

I'm a loyalist at heart, which is weird, because as GM I generally play the villain! 

[Xin Ceithan]

29 minutes ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

@Mazer Rackham Are you a Chaos fan too?  You have preferred flavors?

 

@Xin Ceithan

I think I know the answers to that one. But I don’t want to  ruin the surprise… 

 

Edit: or not. Ninja’d 

 

 

No, we’re good. The Dark City is that way. Just knock. Precisely nine times  - and tell them I sent you. They’re lovely host, truly, they are.

Now, if you’ll excuse me. I have terribly boring stuff to do. Over there. Way over there… 

Edited October 21 by Xin Ceithan

[FabiusV4lcoran]

@Xin Ceithan sounds good!  Here, take this polyhedron for........luck.  Ignore the eyes.

Edited October 21 by FabiusV4lcoran

[Lord_Ikka]

I could see Drukhari being run like Vampire as a political thriller, but in 40k and the Dark City, politics is pretty brutal. The murder-hobo trope is real and it might be difficult for the DM to balance that edge of letting players run with the DE's natural murderousness and making sure a story is actually adhered to. Using Vect and the Black Heart as game enforcers might work, but I don't know. It would be interesting to do a thought-experiment/potential work up to see where players' view the edge to be.

 

Welcome to the Nook, watch your step and keep your mind guarded by the Emperor's Light!

[Mazer Rackham]

When I proposed Blood and Carrion, I was really following on from my snippet in the Rapid Fire Challenge many, many moons ago.

 

This is roughly the limit I think I could go to on the BnC, generally down to its family-friendly policy. I think what we could do is if taking something like this seriously, we could do a Warhammer: Crime style thing, basically say it's 18 rated, and lock it behind a private club - even if that was allowed. That would allow for a touch more gribble.

 

EDIT: Although - having said that, I'm expecting/planning Spectre of Ullanor to get....grim.

 

6 hours ago, Lord_Ikka said:

The murder-hobo trope is real and it might be difficult for the DM to balance that edge of letting players run with the DE's natural murderousness and making sure a story is actually adhered to.

 

Agreed, and one of the reasons why I, personally, think this type of game would work best with one to three players at most. One of my main concerns with this type of content isn't so much the actual plot (as derailing doesn't matter too much as the Players are only going to run out of time and rope...), but Player (and GM) welfare.

 

The latter my reason our Black Crusade game, Blackest Heart, is more Bernard Cornwell, and less Clive Barker...

 

6 hours ago, Lord_Ikka said:

It would be interesting to do a thought-experiment/potential work up to see where players' view the edge to be.

 

This is the reason I dropped in my microfiction, above. Just something as a baseline for further/future discussion, but we certainly could do with Drukhari fiction readers chiming in as well, to find out where the objective 'audience' line is.

 

Edited October 23 by Mazer Rackham

[Machine God]

3 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

When I proposed Blood and Carrion, I was really following on from my snippet in the Rapid Fire Challenge many, many moons ago.

 

we could do a Warhammer: Crime style thing, basically say it's 18 rated, and lock it behind a private club - even if that was allowed. That would allow for a touch more gribble.

 

EDIT: Although - having said that, I'm expecting/planning Spectre of Ullanor to get....grim.

 

 

@Mazer Rackham - You mean we can torture the Orks? They are only Xenos fungi after all...

 

 

[FabiusV4lcoran]

7 hours ago, Lord_Ikka said:

and keep your mind guarded by the Emperor's Light!

How 'bout no, corpse worshipper?!  :-P

 

@Mazer Rackham I figured focus more on the Commoragh intrigue with realspace raids thrown in for action to play out the intrigue.  Maybe like the Kabal discusses courses of action they'd like to pursue against enemies in Commoragh, then goes on a raid (which can be so quick and combat heavy they don't really have a chance to get into the more off-color aspects aside from shooting people in the groin and generic hijinks); but I definitely see where you're going about how dark the Drukhari can get. 

@Machine God CAN one torture orks?  I thought they don't really feel pain; I feel like that'd be the Drukhari equivalent of a veggie burger?  But not like...modern veggie burgers (I assume; I eat meat); classic tofu with no flavor or stimulation, just nourishment.

[Mazer Rackham]

2 hours ago, Machine God said:

@Mazer Rackham - You mean we can torture the Orks? They are only Xenos fungi after all...

 

They aren't locked in with you, you're locked in with them....

 

1 hour ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

How 'bout no, corpse worshipper?!  :-P

 

Hold that thought when our Black Crusade game opens up again...

 

1 hour ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

@Mazer Rackham I figured focus more on the Commoragh intrigue with realspace raids thrown in for action to play out the intrigue.  Maybe like the Kabal discusses courses of action they'd like to pursue against enemies in Commoragh, then goes on a raid (which can be so quick and combat heavy they don't really have a chance to get into the more off-color aspects aside from shooting people in the groin and generic hijinks); but I definitely see where you're going about how dark the Drukhari can get. 

 

Yeah, good handle here.

[FabiusV4lcoran]

11 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Hold that thought when our Black Crusade game opens up again...

Don't you play with my hearts.  DON'T YOU DO IT!

[Machine God]

2 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

 

They aren't locked in with you, you're locked in with them....

 

 

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