40k 40k Perturabo + Stand-Alone Iron Warriors Codex (RUMOUR)

[Xenith]

A whole codex seems crazy, maybe more an end of edition campaign book focused on them?

[Tastyfish]

21 minutes ago, Xenith said:

A whole codex seems crazy, maybe more an end of edition campaign book focused on them?

HQ

Primarch

Vashtorr?

Dark Magos?

Honsou?

Warsmith

 

Elite

Dark Magos - Myrmidon style?

Mutilators perhaps

Vashtorr's robots

 

Troops

Iron Warriors

Negavolt cultists

Perhaps some more Vashtoor deamons

 

Plus the usual shared tanks, CSM units (terminators/havocs) and deamon engines from CSM and that would seem pretty comparable to World Eaters and Emperor's Children with 4-5+ new kits to start with.

With Dark Mech and Vashtorr's stuff also providing plenty of room for future expansion into Thousand Son/Death Guard levels.

 

I think a supplement would probably work better, but it's not wildly different from the other two.

[01RTB01]

51 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

Freedom of what? You got Legionaires on two separate datasheets and Possessed But With Swords. 

 

Plus Fulgrim, Lucius, characters, detachments, strats, enhancements, fluff, etc.

 

You don't have to understand it, but I was elated that the Third finally got a separate book and range from the regular csm book. So much so I grabbed the "super special edition" codex as I've waited for this since 1996. I've enjoyed playing EC in 10th more than my orks and frankly, no one can take my enjoyment away. As I said, for long term players with extensive collections I get their frustration. However, I came in fresh and I've had a blast. 

 

I hope that Iron Warriors get their day in the sun and they get obliterators akin to the artwork earlier on this page. 

 

 

51 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

 

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Edited 23 hours ago by 01RTB01
Accidental quad post.

[ShibeKing]

I want the Iron Warriors to get unique stuff, but I'd rather they just get a digital supplement. GW will probably have another day one update that invalidates the physical book before it even gets into our hands.

[Nephaston]

3 hours ago, Jscarlos18 said:

Lorgar maybe goes for Dark King? I agree his allegiance to Chaos in all its aspects could present a serious problem if GW makes Undivided ascension no longer feasable after Be'lakor betraying the big 4

 

They could also re-introduce the concept of Daemon Princes elevating other to princedom. So you could have Be'lakor being the sponsor of any undivided prince as it serves to expand his own power and influence.

 

Or they could just nut up and make the "Favoured Son of Chaos" actually favoured by chaos.

[HeadlessCross]

1 hour ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

Plus Fulgrim, Lucius, characters, detachments, strats, enhancements, fluff, etc.

You already had Lucius, and the only one of the generic characters (Kakophonist) is actually "new". The Lord Exultant is just the Lord reskinned, and I don't consider those to be new units just because every kit NEEDS bespoke rules. 

[01RTB01]

29 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

You already had Lucius, and the only one of the generic characters (Kakophonist) is actually "new". The Lord Exultant is just the Lord reskinned, and I don't consider those to be new units just because every kit NEEDS bespoke rules. 

 

You can consider it what you like, it doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the minis and the rules. You're grasping at straws for an argument (for a change), you're wasting your time frater, don't you tire of it?

[Corswain]

I'll believe in standalone Iron Warriors when I see them but I would definitely be tempted. A Daemon Perturabo shadowing my 30K IVth Legion would be so cool.

[Jukkiz]

Since people keep saying it would be better as full codex

Here, all of them

[Rain]

29 minutes ago, Jukkiz said:

Since people keep saying it would be better as full codex

Here, all of them

 

 

[Evil Eye]

The 3.5E Chaos book is probably the best 40K Codex ever released, along with 4E Tyranids and 3E Orks. And it gets even better with Codex: Eye of Terror (and 3.5E Imperial Guard to do traitor guard with)!

[01RTB01]

1 hour ago, Evil Eye said:

The 3.5E Chaos book is probably the best 40K Codex ever released, along with 4E Tyranids and 3E Orks. And it gets even better with Codex: Eye of Terror (and 3.5E Imperial Guard to do traitor guard with)!

2nd Ed chaos codex was a work of art. 

 

3E ork codex chopped a lot of stuff from 2nd Ed and I went on a hiatus because the edition change was so jarring. 

 

However, chaos 3.5 was superb for the time and wasn't really surpassed. The choices were awesome.

[bloodhound23]

1 hour ago, 01RTB01 said:

2nd Ed chaos codex was a work of art. 

 

3E ork codex chopped a lot of stuff from 2nd Ed and I went on a hiatus because the edition change was so jarring. 

 

However, chaos 3.5 was superb for the time and wasn't really surpassed. The choices were awesome.

 

Me getting into the game right as the 3.5 Chaos codex was released probably explains a lot of my feelings. Hard to live up to that one, tbf. 

[Tymell]

And here I just finished making my own homebrew Iron Warriors codex for fun. I guess if this comes to pass I can see how mine measures up.

[OnePaulMurray]

One thing I always thought about codexes is that it makes much more sense for Chaos factions to have significant, material rules and stat differences to each other due to the influence of the warp.

 

It's a bit artificial when applying the same to Space Marines that aren't Space Wolves, because the only truly unique units should be Death Company and potentially something for the Raven Guard that involves shadow hopping. Everything else is a wargear option.

 

So I actually think it would be much better from a lore perspective if they divided up the Chaos Marines more, provided they are going to give each faction enough love from a design perspective.