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21 minutes ago, Xenith said:

A whole codex seems crazy, maybe more an end of edition campaign book focused on them?

HQ

Primarch

Vashtorr?

Dark Magos?

Honsou?

Warsmith

 

Elite

Dark Magos - Myrmidon style?

Mutilators perhaps

Vashtorr's robots

 

Troops

Iron Warriors

Negavolt cultists

Perhaps some more Vashtoor deamons

 

Plus the usual shared tanks, CSM units (terminators/havocs) and deamon engines from CSM and that would seem pretty comparable to World Eaters and Emperor's Children with 4-5+ new kits to start with.

With Dark Mech and Vashtorr's stuff also providing plenty of room for future expansion into Thousand Son/Death Guard levels.

 

I think a supplement would probably work better, but it's not wildly different from the other two.

51 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

Freedom of what? You got Legionaires on two separate datasheets and Possessed But With Swords. 

 

Plus Fulgrim, Lucius, characters, detachments, strats, enhancements, fluff, etc.

 

You don't have to understand it, but I was elated that the Third finally got a separate book and range from the regular csm book. So much so I grabbed the "super special edition" codex as I've waited for this since 1996. I've enjoyed playing EC in 10th more than my orks and frankly, no one can take my enjoyment away. As I said, for long term players with extensive collections I get their frustration. However, I came in fresh and I've had a blast. 

 

I hope that Iron Warriors get their day in the sun and they get obliterators akin to the artwork earlier on this page. 

 

 

51 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

 

 

 

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Accidental quad post.
3 hours ago, Jscarlos18 said:

Lorgar maybe goes for Dark King? I agree his allegiance to Chaos in all its aspects could present a serious problem if GW makes Undivided ascension no longer feasable after Be'lakor betraying the big 4

 

They could also re-introduce the concept of Daemon Princes elevating other to princedom. So you could have Be'lakor being the sponsor of any undivided prince as it serves to expand his own power and influence.

 

Or they could just nut up and make the "Favoured Son of Chaos" actually favoured by chaos.

1 hour ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

Plus Fulgrim, Lucius, characters, detachments, strats, enhancements, fluff, etc.

You already had Lucius, and the only one of the generic characters (Kakophonist) is actually "new". The Lord Exultant is just the Lord reskinned, and I don't consider those to be new units just because every kit NEEDS bespoke rules. 

29 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

You already had Lucius, and the only one of the generic characters (Kakophonist) is actually "new". The Lord Exultant is just the Lord reskinned, and I don't consider those to be new units just because every kit NEEDS bespoke rules. 

 

You can consider it what you like, it doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the minis and the rules. You're grasping at straws for an argument (for a change), you're wasting your time frater, don't you tire of it?

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