40k New Mutilators

[Antarius]

39 minutes ago, Alby the Slayer said:

I really wish they went with "warped flash is taking over the armour" and not this kind of flesh growing under the armour but not spilling out. These onese seam so.. clean.

This really hit the nail on the head, when it comes to what bugs me about both these and the other models with similar armour/flesh. I hadn't really been able to figure it out, except things seeming a bit too "ordered", so thanks! I think I might look into a bit of resculpting to let the armour and flesh grow into each other on my Obliterators, as well as these guys if I ever get them and maybe my Helbrute (although I think the Helbrute suffers less from this).
The Dinobots are probably the worst offenders and might actually be why I don't really like them, although I do like some of their elements - but I don't own any of those models, so it's not really a problem for me 

[Mogger351]

13 hours ago, kabaakaba said:

They really good, idk why so many think they are not ok. Good quality, nice poses. 

If something doesn't match you headcannon don't make it bad.

Because it's not headcanon.

 

This is what they're depicted as in official art.

 

The fleshmetal virus over the decades has been described as a painful fusing of armour, flesh and weapon where one flows and grows from the other.

 

Edited Friday at 07:54 AM by Mogger351

[kabaakaba]

1 hour ago, Mogger351 said:

Because it's not headcanon.

 

This is what they're depicted as in official art.

 

The fleshmetal virus over the decades has been described as a painful fusing of armour, flesh and weapon where one flows and grows from the other.

 

How old this pict? I mean it's like we always refered to RT/2nd edition books when don't like something. 

NOW GW said mutilators looks like this. And This is the canon, not something written 20++ year ago. It's normal process. Little Timmy from current time barely buy all gore-meat-guts abomination. Though new Mutilators have cool sculpt and still chaosy enought. And here is 50 Timmy for every Serious veteran Tom.

[Antarius]

They’re from 6th edition IIRC. Same time as the Dinobots, I seem to recall, but I could be wrong. So I guess 2012ish..

Edited Friday at 11:00 AM by Antarius

[Mogger351]

1 hour ago, Antarius said:

They’re from 6th edition IIRC. Same time as the Dinobots, I seem to recall, but I could be wrong. So I guess 2012ish..

Yeah, that image was in the 6th ed codex, so really not that long ago.

[Agrest_IW]

Mutilators: worst CSM unit from 2012-2019, GW is known for making the same mistakes over and over again, slow unit for Combat and nothing more. The only positive thing is models look like Obliterator (some conversion in hands add gun here and there )

[Nephaston]

5 hours ago, Antarius said:

This really hit the nail on the head, when it comes to what bugs me about both these and the other models with similar armour/flesh. I hadn't really been able to figure it out, except things seeming a bit too "ordered", so thanks! I think I might look into a bit of resculpting to let the armour and flesh grow into each other on my Obliterators, as well as these guys if I ever get them and maybe my Helbrute (although I think the Helbrute suffers less from this).
The Dinobots are probably the worst offenders and might actually be why I don't really like them, although I do like some of their elements - but I don't own any of those models, so it's not really a problem for me 

 

One could also just paint the borders between flesh and armour with less distinction; painting strings of flesh up and over the trim and armour/metal colours spilling on and mixing into the flesh.

The 'eavy metal scheme will never not be hyper clean so it is particularly bad at selling something that is supposedly messy.

 

As alwas, once it is in the wild it'll start looking much better, like womens faces on GW models.

[Flaherty]

3 hours ago, kabaakaba said:

How old this pict? I mean it's like we always refered to RT/2nd edition books when don't like something. 

NOW GW said mutilators looks like this. And This is the canon, not something written 20++ year ago. It's normal process. Little Timmy from current time barely buy all gore-meat-guts abomination. Though new Mutilators have cool sculpt and still chaosy enought. And here is 50 Timmy for every Serious veteran Tom.

My hunch is that the kit was designed by a new trainee or under serious deadline pressure. 

GW has no problem shipping body horror. Slaanesh Fiends, any number of models featuring decapitated heads as trophies, etc.

 

I am curious how much young Timmy weighs in their minds these days. With the increasing emphasis on battleforces, GW is pushing their average selling price up to the $250 price point. It seems like the new focus is whale hunting, adding more and larger bricks to people with piles of shame. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

8 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Yeah, that image was in the 6th ed codex, so really not that long ago.

…14 years ago isn’t that long ago? Ok.

[Wispy]

On 2/5/2026 at 10:04 AM, Mogger351 said:

I will fly close to the sun.

 

Both sculpts suck.

you're not flying close, you're burning up in the photosphere.

[Mogger351]

34 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

…14 years ago isn’t that long ago? Ok.

Well, 13 and a half. But you've gone from "peoples head-canon" to "old 2nd edition art" to "14 years is too old". 

 

Hate to tell you this, there's plenty of 40k units in production older than that art. It's not some relic of a forgotten age exactly.

 

If you love the pink nuggets wearing a box, more power to you. But your lack of knowledge of the past and the fluff doesn't allow you to tell people they're imagining things.

[kabaakaba]

55 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

Well, 13 and a half. But you've gone from "peoples head-canon" to "old 2nd edition art" to "14 years is too old". 

 

Hate to tell you this, there's plenty of 40k units in production older than that art. It's not some relic of a forgotten age exactly.

 

If you love the pink nuggets wearing a box, more power to you. But your lack of knowledge of the past and the fluff doesn't allow you to tell people they're imagining things.

It's me said about head cannon and to old 

And yeah 14 years is old. My kid this old. End I talk not about art but about stupid endless reference to RT and second Edition. They gone and never returns so it's time to move. This is already very different universe. And I absolutely like it. We moved from stale 999999.m41 and that's great. 

And new Mutilators are great. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, Mogger351 said:

Well, 13 and a half. But you've gone from "peoples head-canon" to "old 2nd edition art" to "14 years is too old". 

 

Hate to tell you this, there's plenty of 40k units in production older than that art. It's not some relic of a forgotten age exactly.

 

If you love the pink nuggets wearing a box, more power to you. But your lack of knowledge of the past and the fluff doesn't allow you to tell people they're imagining things.

I haven’t gone from anything to anything.

 

units or kits being older than 14 years is irrelevant.

 

14 is a long time, it’s roughly a third of the game’s age. That’s plenty old and plenty of time for GW to make the decision to change things a bit.

[TheWarmaster]

Do we reckon they’ll show off the defiler on Monday? Seeing as the last two Iron Warriors reveals were on Mondays? 

[Karhedron]

6 minutes ago, TheWarmaster said:

Do we reckon they’ll show off the defiler on Monday? Seeing as the last two Iron Warriors reveals were on Mondays? 

 

Fingers crossed. I was assuming that the Red Corsairs would be all the Chaos we would get before 11th so this IW mini wave is most welcome. 

[Magos Takatus]

On 2/6/2026 at 6:57 AM, Antarius said:

This really hit the nail on the head, when it comes to what bugs me about both these and the other models with similar armour/flesh. I hadn't really been able to figure it out, except things seeming a bit too "ordered", so thanks! I think I might look into a bit of resculpting to let the armour and flesh grow into each other on my Obliterators, as well as these guys if I ever get them and maybe my Helbrute (although I think the Helbrute suffers less from this).
The Dinobots are probably the worst offenders and might actually be why I don't really like them, although I do like some of their elements - but I don't own any of those models, so it's not really a problem for me 

To be fair, Daemon engines are a daemon bound into a machine, so they can certainly be warped, but if they end up looking too fleshy then that suggests they have escaped containment, which seems more like a Soulgrinder to me. I'm not a Chaos player, so I've not poured through the lore, but I've always seen a daemon engine as a prison cell with weapons grafted to it. If it gets too fleshy surely you've just got a big daemonhost instead? I'm not going to debate it because it's obviously subjective. I personally prefer the Forge World interpretation of the Brass Scorpion to the Dinobots personally and that's still got an emphasis on the "engine" part of daemon engine. I like the idea of a daemon inside trying to warp the daemon engine slightly like a prisoner struggling against it's chains, but I feel if it's allowed too much influence it would probably just break it's binding.

 

I think the Helbrute and mutilators feel a bit different to me because it was a mortal inside the armour, so having them fuse together makes more sense to me, rather than the jar of angry bees that is a daemon engine. Perhaps I am wrong though, for all I know a Daemon engine is a daemon bound in a biological host and then locked into a machine? I'm not sure.

 

Personally I do think these Mutilators should look a bit more warped, but in these days of identical posing I'd rather them be a blank slate to Chaosify instead of a bunch of identically posed, identically mutated clones, though that's a GW problem rather than a design problem. the weapon being glued into a fleshy stump element of this design really does inform you where the model glues together before you even get your hands on the kit, sadly. I think I'd have to tackle that if I ever bought these. 

 

I guess this is what we are both thinking of, but GW's previous efforts at representing this never really worked in my opinion.

[siegfriedfr]

I agree they look bland compared to 6th ed artwork.

 

Specifically the claw weapons look too robotic and not fleshy enough. 

 

Weapons should look like the Possessed. 

 

But they look infinitely better than the old models, so there is that. 

 

[Lay]

Dismissing older designs just because they're old is a bit silly given how much GW loves to revisit and modernize older art work and miniatures. The new Red Corsairs for example are visibly inspired by Rogue Trader Space Marines of all things. 

[Wispy]

7 hours ago, Lay said:

Dismissing older designs just because they're old is a bit silly given how much GW loves to revisit and modernize older art work and miniatures. The new Red Corsairs for example are visibly inspired by Rogue Trader Space Marines of all things. 

So we can bring back Logan Grimnar christmas sled?

[Mogger351]

1 hour ago, Wispy said:

So we can bring back Logan Grimnar christmas sled?

Talk about bringing a gun to a knife fight. The sled is frankly a weird idea, it wasn't necessarily even executed poorly. Obliterators but melee is a logical and simple idea definitely executed poorly.

 

The 6th ed minis pale completely to their art and fluff. 6th ed logan sled by contrast is a nice-enough mini born from terrible fluff/concept.

[Lay]

2 hours ago, Wispy said:

So we can bring back Logan Grimnar christmas sled?

Don't know. Are you saying people dislike the sled just because it's old?  Or that that the concept of Cronenberg-looking Obliterators/Mutilators is as unpopular as the sled?