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[Dezron]

10 minutes ago, Matcap86 said:

The lasguns in the logo also remind me more of hotshot guns. Maybe a broadening of the Tempestus Range? With Aquilons and Scions, they might expand those into a subfaction? 

 

I think you are onto something, not sure if this is Tempestus logo, but high chance it belongs to some sort of special forces. 

 

Long-las might imply them being some sort of scout/recon force. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

48 minutes ago, Matcap86 said:

The lasguns in the logo also remind me more of hotshot guns. Maybe a broadening of the Tempestus Range? With Aquilons and Scions, they might expand those into a subfaction? 

Dear god emperor please no.

 

anyway reveals start 2pm eastern time right?

Edited March 25 by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Jukkiz]

Hmm... i never really liked "shiny" Tempestus Scions. 

Maybe they will reveal more old timey stormtrooper looks? 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 minute ago, Jukkiz said:

Hmm... i never really liked "shiny" Tempestus Scions. 

Maybe they will reveal more old timey stormtrooper looks? 

Either that or more kasrkin specialist squads.

 

scions were such a bad choice. Just make the models basically interchangeable or share a keyword, and let Kasrkin/storm troopers use the taurox prime.

[01RTB01]

19 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Dear god emperor please no.

 

anyway reveals start 2pm eastern time right?

 

If my timezones are right, no, 9pm. You're 3 hours ahead of us.

 

1am GMT which is 6pm for us (North BC).

[TheVoidDragon]

2 hours ago, DemonGSides said:

 

What situation? A bunch of people who don't even collect imperial guard get upset a specific regiment doesn't get a model but another does?  Whatever will we do when all of these Long Held Steel Legion Fans Without A Single Steel Legion Model Who Also Ignored The MTO Option From A Few Months Ago start complaining AGAIN??

 

Oh. Right. Ignore the silly complaints. Pretty easy. 

 

 

 

That comes across as a bit of a disingenuously reductive take on this, really. 
 

They've just announced that there's a big event going on with the whole focus being a return to the planet Armageddon. I don't think it's difficult to see why not having the iconic regiment associated with that planet show up in either miniature or at least animation form isn't something some are happy with, and seeing them then making a unit of a completely different regiment (meaning it's not a case of "Well, they just can't make another style of Imperial Guard miniatures",  they just instead didn't do the ones that make most sense with what's going on) is going to make it look even worse. 

 

Regardless of someone does or doesn't already have any of the miniatures, it's not an unreasonable complaint to have wanted to see them during the big event focusing on their own planet, only to have them be superseded by others.
 

57 minutes ago, Matcap86 said:

The lasguns in the logo also remind me more of hotshot guns. Maybe a broadening of the Tempestus Range? With Aquilons and Scions, they might expand those into a subfaction? 

That the one on the right has a sight of some sort is a bit unusual for typical Imperial guard too. 

[Matcap86]

8 minutes ago, TheVoidDragon said:

That the one on the right has a sight of some sort is a bit unusual for typical Imperial guard too. 

 

yeah that's the one I'm referring to. Reminds me of the hellguns from the aquilons, without the cabeling.

 

[Mogger351]

31 minutes ago, TheVoidDragon said:

 

That comes across as a bit of a disingenuously reductive take on this, really. 
 

They've just announced that there's a big event going on with the whole focus being a return to the planet Armageddon. I don't think it's difficult to see why not having the iconic regiment associated with that planet show up in either miniature or at least animation form isn't something some are happy with, and seeing them then making a unit of a completely different regiment (meaning it's not a case of "Well, they just can't make another style of Imperial Guard miniatures",  they just instead didn't do the ones that make most sense with what's going on) is going to make it look even worse. 

 

Regardless of someone does or doesn't already have any of the miniatures, it's not an unreasonable complaint to have wanted to see them during the big event focusing on their own planet, only to have them be superseded by others.
 

That the one on the right has a sight of some sort is a bit unusual for typical Imperial guard too. 

They're a subfaction that have been out of production for years now, theyve no contemporary fluff afaik.

 

Unless the residents of armageddon are getting very randy far too much and young the current state makes perfect sense. Likewise a war set on a specific planet with a unit that by lore will only exist in a single system/planet is a harder sell without a retcon.

 

The level of complaints in places go beyond "ah that's a shame, but it kinda makes sense", which is what GW likely expected to hear.

[DemonGSides]

1 hour ago, TheVoidDragon said:

 

That comes across as a bit of a disingenuously reductive take on this, really. 
 

They've just announced that there's a big event going on with the whole focus being a return to the planet Armageddon. I don't think it's difficult to see why not having the iconic regiment associated with that planet show up in either miniature or at least animation form isn't something some are happy with, and seeing them then making a unit of a completely different regiment (meaning it's not a case of "Well, they just can't make another style of Imperial Guard miniatures",  they just instead didn't do the ones that make most sense with what's going on) is going to make it look even worse. 

 

Regardless of someone does or doesn't already have any of the miniatures, it's not an unreasonable complaint to have wanted to see them during the big event focusing on their own planet, only to have them be superseded by others.

 

Definitely reductive, but I'm still right.  Most of the complainers both here and elsewhere are just using this as a new avenue to complain, even if they didn't know/care about steel legion just a week ago.  They aren't steel legion fans trying to protect the mind share of their special boys, it's the normal complainers just complaining about something else. 

 

I think it's a bit of an unreasonable complaint. It's expecting the world and being mad when you're reminded that this isn't a free enterprise, and opportunity costs matter.

 

GW ran an MTO for Steel Legion a few years ago. It didn't even rate for its own thread on these forums (or the search feature is tough to use, either or) The uproar about the Steel Legion stuff is way overblown; a little grumbling would've been appropriate, but entire threads had to be shut down because of the overreaction.

 

You've ginned up a straw man argument (no one thinks GW  "just can't make another style of Imperial Guard miniatures" lmao they release new mortals ALL THE TIME) to try to make it seem that the argument is silly, when it's really "The realities of economics and the current range cover the idea of Steel Legion close enough and if you NEED hyper specific models, there's lots of 3rd party options."  It's really as simple as that; they chose Krieg (rightfully, considering how people seem to prefer them over the Steel Legion options that have existed historically) over Steel Legion however many years ago they decided that was gonna be their gas mask/big jacket infantry model. It's nothing more nefarious than that.  Suits at the higher level for sure aren't going to approve of two model lines that are the same thing and then would cannibalize sales from the product they've already laid out for.

 

That people are surprised at all is the more interesting angle; if you're at all a fan of the property for any amount of serious time, you know visiting a planet for a campaign book doesn't mean you're getting every model for every character or faction mentioned. If you're new, you probably don't know about the Steel Legion. So a lot of the big complaints just ring as "I want more things to complain about, and it doesn't matter what they are, I'm going to act like it's a big deal."

 

It isn't, and it will be forgotten in a month. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

2 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

If my timezones are right, no, 9pm. You're 3 hours ahead of us.

 

1am GMT which is 6pm for us (North BC).

I thought auspex tactics said 2pm in America. Granted we have like 5 time zones so that’s not very helpful lol

 

1 hour ago, DemonGSides said:

 

Definitely reductive, but I'm still right.  Most of the complainers both here and elsewhere are just using this as a new avenue to complain, even if they didn't know/care about steel legion just a week ago.  They aren't steel legion fans trying to protect the mind share of their special boys, it's the normal complainers just complaining about something else. 

 

I think it's a bit of an unreasonable complaint. It's expecting the world and being mad when you're reminded that this isn't a free enterprise, and opportunity costs matter.

 

GW ran an MTO for Steel Legion a few years ago. It didn't even rate for its own thread on these forums (or the search feature is tough to use, either or) The uproar about the Steel Legion stuff is way overblown; a little grumbling would've been appropriate, but entire threads had to be shut down because of the overreaction.

 

You've ginned up a straw man argument (no one thinks GW  "just can't make another style of Imperial Guard miniatures" lmao they release new mortals ALL THE TIME) to try to make it seem that the argument is silly, when it's really "The realities of economics and the current range cover the idea of Steel Legion close enough and if you NEED hyper specific models, there's lots of 3rd party options."  It's really as simple as that; they chose Krieg (rightfully, considering how people seem to prefer them over the Steel Legion options that have existed historically) over Steel Legion however many years ago they decided that was gonna be their gas mask/big jacket infantry model. It's nothing more nefarious than that.  Suits at the higher level for sure aren't going to approve of two model lines that are the same thing and then would cannibalize sales from the product they've already laid out for.

 

That people are surprised at all is the more interesting angle; if you're at all a fan of the property for any amount of serious time, you know visiting a planet for a campaign book doesn't mean you're getting every model for every character or faction mentioned. If you're new, you probably don't know about the Steel Legion. So a lot of the big complaints just ring as "I want more things to complain about, and it doesn't matter what they are, I'm going to act like it's a big deal."

 

It isn't, and it will be forgotten in a month. 

Maybe the complainer here should go to the guard sub, and start dropping pictures of their vast old school steel legion collections.

 

i don’t think I have ever seen steel legion on a table in person before.

[Matcap86]

Lads the Yarrick topic got locked because of the steel legion fighting, can we please avoid that here.

[TheVoidDragon]

2 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

They're a subfaction that have been out of production for years now, theyve no contemporary fluff afaik.

 

Unless the residents of armageddon are getting very randy far too much and young the current state makes perfect sense. Likewise a war set on a specific planet with a unit that by lore will only exist in a single system/planet is a harder sell without a retcon.

 

The level of complaints in places go beyond "ah that's a shame, but it kinda makes sense", which is what GW likely expected to hear.

 

They obviously have not been a focus of anything for a while, but they have still showed up and even got 2 pages dedicated to what was going on with them in the 9th edition codex. It basically said they'd been fighting lots, and lost a few Hive Cities, but no mention of them barely lasting and being low in number or whatever. Regardless, they can make up whatever lore they want, whenever they want, to do whatever they need it to do, and they weren't limited to all being on that particular planet and they did go out to fight elsewhere. 

 

 

1 hour ago, DemonGSides said:

 

Definitely reductive, but I'm still right.  Most of the complainers both here and elsewhere are just using this as a new avenue to complain, even if they didn't know/care about steel legion just a week ago.  They aren't steel legion fans trying to protect the mind share of their special boys, it's the normal complainers just complaining about something else. 

 

I think it's a bit of an unreasonable complaint. It's expecting the world and being mad when you're reminded that this isn't a free enterprise, and opportunity costs matter.

 

GW ran an MTO for Steel Legion a few years ago. It didn't even rate for its own thread on these forums (or the search feature is tough to use, either or) The uproar about the Steel Legion stuff is way overblown; a little grumbling would've been appropriate, but entire threads had to be shut down because of the overreaction.

 

You've ginned up a straw man argument (no one thinks GW  "just can't make another style of Imperial Guard miniatures" lmao they release new mortals ALL THE TIME) to try to make it seem that the argument is silly, when it's really "The realities of economics and the current range cover the idea of Steel Legion close enough and if you NEED hyper specific models, there's lots of 3rd party options."  It's really as simple as that; they chose Krieg (rightfully, considering how people seem to prefer them over the Steel Legion options that have existed historically) over Steel Legion however many years ago they decided that was gonna be their gas mask/big jacket infantry model. It's nothing more nefarious than that.  Suits at the higher level for sure aren't going to approve of two model lines that are the same thing and then would cannibalize sales from the product they've already laid out for.

 

That people are surprised at all is the more interesting angle; if you're at all a fan of the property for any amount of serious time, you know visiting a planet for a campaign book doesn't mean you're getting every model for every character or faction mentioned. If you're new, you probably don't know about the Steel Legion. So a lot of the big complaints just ring as "I want more things to complain about, and it doesn't matter what they are, I'm going to act like it's a big deal."

 

It isn't, and it will be forgotten in a month. 

 

The Made-to-order they did, from what I remember the prices were just absurd. It was something like almost £70 a unit. For Imperial Guard, who you need multiple units of. They wanted about £20 for a single special weapon guardsmen, even. It's not a good indication that no one wants them.

 

I have actually quite a few comments over the past few days saying that they wouldn't do it because they aren't going to make another and give the Imperial Guard another new range that's basically just another cosmetic choice of what they already have. Steel Legion and Krieg have significant differences to them, just because they're both "some sort of coat, and some sort of mask" doesn't make them the same thing. 

You saying you're right doesn't make you right though. It sounds like you've decided that the only way they could be valid complaints is if someone has an army of the miniatures and/or consider them their favourite, or else you'll just dismiss them being unhappy with what's happened as not something genuine. Regardless of if someone has any of them or even if they were aware of them a few weeks ago or not, that doesn't mean that they can't look at what's happened here and think it's bad. 

 

Mordian Iron Guard would still be cool to see, but it just feels like it's the wrong way to handle things and it's at the wrong time when it's in the middle of refusing to do anything with the one regiment you'd expect to see heavily involved in the campaign focused around their own planet.  I'd still like to see them but it would just highlights the problem of not having Steel Legion show up even more. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 25 by TheVoidDragon

[Corswain]

I think that if GW does the Steel Legion it will be Kill Team. It was so successful for Krieg and they get to test how much demand there really is for them. 

[Deakz28]

6 minutes ago, Corswain said:

I think that if GW does the Steel Legion it will be Kill Team. It was so successful for Krieg and they get to test how much demand there really is for them. 

I couldn’t agree more, I think as a business unless it’s starting in kill team Steel Legion will be an alternate colour scheme for Krieg in their eyes.. and realistically it’s understandable 

Sadly couldn’t get the classic Steel legion to upload without creating it as a download for viewer for some reason :(

Edited March 25 by Deakz28

[Joe]

Can't just tease us with the Centaur like that, Deakz28.

 

Although, a plastic one...

[Deakz28]

1 minute ago, Joe said:

Can't just tease us with the Centaur like that, Deakz28.

 

Although, a plastic one...

How I’d love a centaur in plastic 

[Matcap86]

1 minute ago, Deakz28 said:

How I’d love a centaur in plastic 

 

Honestly just do all the old FW kits in plastic. The Arvus is proof they haven't forgotten it. 

 

Gimme the centaur, sentinel loader, atlas, Trojan.

 

And please give me a Praetor again. What a beaut.

[zulu.tango]

14 minutes ago, Corswain said:

I think that if GW does the Steel Legion it will be Kill Team. It was so successful for Krieg and they get to test how much demand there really is for them. 

Can't be THIS kill team release though, my hopes and dreams already demand the next box contain Catachans (potentially called Armageddon Ork Hunters). If Steel Legion die-hards want a Kill Team refresh they can get in line. 

Edited March 25 by zulu.tango

[The Lost Son]

I've got to say I'm impressed we're 5 hours out and it's not all leaked (I'm also amazed 11th is still in the bag at the moment). Would the centaur not fit the scout vehicle rumor or are both half tracks 

[Bombax]

21 minutes ago, zulu.tango said:

Can't be THIS kill team release though, my hopes and dreams already demand the next box contain Catachans (potentially called Armageddon Ork Hunters). If Steel Legion die-hards want a Kill Team refresh they can get in line. 

I think we'll get Catachans via an Ork Hunters KT now and if a Steel Legion KT happens it'll be around whenever they decide to do a Chimera refresh. 

[Matcap86]

9 minutes ago, The Lost Son said:

I've got to say I'm impressed we're 5 hours out and it's not all leaked (I'm also amazed 11th is still in the bag at the moment). Would the centaur not fit the scout vehicle rumor or are both half tracks 

 

Jinxed it. 5 minutes later we have our first leak.

[The Lost Son]

@Matcap86 it's a skill usually to my detriment.

[Karhedron]

Really hoping that they follow up the cryptic "Battlefleet" that got mentioned a couple of months ago. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

5 hours ago, Corswain said:

I think that if GW does the Steel Legion it will be Kill Team. It was so successful for Krieg and they get to test how much demand there really is for them. 

I don’t think KT is a test bed. By the time the KT is released I think they’re about half way done with the rest of the regiment’s range.

 

someone who wants to feel free to track time between a new guard KT and the regimental refresh? It’s a year, maybe two I bet.

 

5 hours ago, The Lost Son said:

I've got to say I'm impressed we're 5 hours out and it's not all leaked (I'm also amazed 11th is still in the bag at the moment). Would the centaur not fit the scout vehicle rumor or are both half tracks 

Centaur is a support/engineering vehicle isn’t it?

[Wispy]

3 hours ago, Corswain said:

I think that if GW does the Steel Legion it will be Kill Team. It was so successful for Krieg and they get to test how much demand there really is for them. 

i think they were just planning on doing Krieg. The krieg was just a guardsmen kit that they released as a killteam and has the exact same composition as the Cadian Guardsmen kit that came out 2 years later.

15 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

someone who wants to feel free to track time between a new guard KT and the regimental refresh? It’s a year, maybe two I bet.

it was like 3 years, they were probably sitting on it. I just assumed they were always planning it because the Krieg box builds all the same things the Cadian Guardsmen squad does.

Edited March 25 by Wispy