Armageddon: The Space Marine Half

[Lord Marshal]

All those Horus' better watch out.

 

 

Vanguard Veterans:

 

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Intercessors:

 

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Eradicators with Heavy Bolters:

 

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Edited 4 hours ago by Lord Marshal

[ArielRSA]

I think seeing the full squads helps. I really like the VV with his feet on the ground - do more of that GW

 

I’m on the fence about this one. I think it’s the weakest of the past few launch boxes on the marine side but there are some nice models there. 

[marspeople]

They look nice.

But you have to ask yourself, did we really need this?

 

[Robbienw]

The Land Speeder is cool, but the rest of the box is really poor.

 

They’ve doubled down on the stupid knee rims, not a single model without them.  Other than a few MK7 faces and the odd variant chest plate, the Intercessors look the same as the old kit.

 

The Librarian model is terrible, easily the worst Librarian GW had produced in the last 20 years or so.

 

Was intrigued by the hyping of MkX combined with older parts, but its not really been followed through properly.  
 

Big thumbs down.

[Osteoclast]

Tactical rock for the Landspeeder is definitely….a choice. 
 

Honestly, only thing I’m interested in is the captain to use as a proper shield and sword lieutenant since I already have a relic captain. And maybe the Eradibolters for gravis reasons. 

[mecanojavi99]

As a whole it ranges from good to okay, nothing actually bad but definetelly nothing impressive.

 

I really love the Librarian, I prefer them with staffs and the helmet being integrated with the psychick hood is a nice touch.

 

As I predicted the Land Speeder is closer to the Storm Speeder than the classic Land Speeder, it's quite literally a smaller version of the Storm Speeder, also looks like Omnis has been solidified as the pilot armour variant of Mark X.

 

The new Intercessors are nice and as I predicted GW didn't go super heavy on the mixing of armours, it's still clearly all Mark X but with nods here and there to older marks and as expected is a bolter only unit, so no tactical intercessors like some people hoped.

 

Personally, I really hope that Eradicators with Heavy Bolters are baked into the current Eradicator datasheet instead of being a separate one, same goes for a unified Captain datasheet instead of a separate one with the shield.

Edited 4 hours ago by mecanojavi99

[Jukkiz]

I see that primarinaded Librarian

[mecanojavi99]

2 minutes ago, Jukkiz said:

I see that primarinaded Librarian

Good thing they dind't bring back the Cherub, I really hate those things.

[MoriyaSchism]

Going to sum up my thoughts and criticisms here: 

 

1. The scale of the Land Speeder is good and I like the pattern of multi-melta that's featured on the gunner's seat. It's a decent design, but some of the Primaris design language drags it down. 

2. The intercessors have good poses and a nice variety of chest plates. I will be doing weapon swaps on them because I don't like the oversized bolt rifle. The grenade guy and the auspex user are probably my favourites. Quite pleased it's a classic grenade throwing pose instead of the nonsense with the puff of smoke and a floating grenade.

3. The Captain looks great, but the Mark X helmet that's featured is a one for one replica of a tacky third party design I've seen online countless times. Extra plates on the cheeks never looked right for me. His tactical rock looks very easy to remove. 

4. The Librarian is a mixed bag for me. It calls back to the old plastic sculpt with the staff and pose, but I dislike the gloved hands and the chest plate. The chest plate seems like the laziest aspect of the miniature as it appears to be copied from the Terminator Librarian design with only a couple of minor alterations. It seems too big for a power armoured Marine. The rock surfboard also looks terrible. It will take some work but this is a usable miniature.

5. The Standard Bearer looks good, but the screaming bare head looks silly. I will get rid of the skulls on the banner and fill in the sculpted on "Armageddon" letters if I get this miniature. I love his chest plate.

6. I don't care for the Eradicators at all, but I have to say that "classic" style Eradicator helmet is probably the worst bit featured in this whole stream. I can't imagine what they were thinking with this one. 

7. The Vanguard Veterans are what I expected. The one that has both feet on the ground is probably the best looking one. 

The sprues look like they'll be easy to work with. It appears most of the models seem to be avoiding the pitfalls of design from Dark Imperium (the Primaris knee flare fusing into the thigh and the legs not being separate bits). I could be wrong, only way to know is to have a closer look at the sprues later. If I can find a good deal on these I'll probably pick them up. I might even buy the Operation Imperator book.

Edited 4 hours ago by MoriyaSchism

[Orange Knight]

The Captain and the Librarian are exceptional. I will definitely be adding those to my collection as the models are just superb.

 

The Intercessors are fine. I will probably paint a few individual models up so that I can mix them into my existing squads to create more unique looking units.

 

Speeder is fine. Very traditional but with more weapons.

 

Vanguard Vets look better when you see them all. GW picked the worst individual model to showcase. The one that's on the ground would have been much better and the whole reaction would have been different. 

 

Chaplain looks better now that I've seen more angles.

 

New Eradicators are ok. No complaints but also not exciting. Same with the banner.

[Redcomet]

Lord these minis are boring. The Captain is cool, but the rest is just incredibly meh. They really phoned the space marine half in, and then had fun with the Orks

[Northern Walker]

I'm honestly not particularly impressed with this. I like the landspeeder, but everything else is either decent to meh.

[Nephaston]

17 minutes ago, Osteoclast said:

Tactical rock for the Landspeeder is definitely….a choice. 

An optional choice, as they have shown on the sprue that you can just leave the smoke off. Though no word if they provide one of those transparent sticks.

[redmapa]

Not bad just very dull, the speeder is great and I can't wait to add more! Im curious as to what's gonna happen with eradicators, is thus a separate kit for the same unit? Are they getting more options in a future full kit?

[phandaal]

32 minutes ago, Robbienw said:

The Land Speeder is cool, but the rest of the box is really poor.

 

Needs a proper flight stand (tactical rock for a speeder? ) and a helmet swap, but otherwise they did a good job with the Land Speeder refresh! Not 100% Flying Shoe anymore, but I understand that they must have wanted to keep it visually aligned with the newer speeders.

 

Also nice to see more variety on the chest plates for Intercessors. The Space Wolf refresh did a much better job of incorporating more armor styles though.

 

Bolter Gravis gives me hope that those iconic units going to Legends will see a resurgence in the new mini style. Just need a lascannon, grav cannon, and plasma cannon, and then we need to fire Desolators into the sun alongside their Suppressor brethren and give Marines a proper rocket launcher again.

 

Also that Ancient is nice. Helmet head looks better to me.

Edited 3 hours ago by phandaal

[Marshal Reinhard]

I feel like this is actually quite a nice box and a really good starter point for new players. I could see myself adding most of the things here to my rather sizeable force as well.

 

But I'd be lying if I said I feel the same excitement as I did for the 9th or 10th edition boxes.

 

As it is, I probably will add most things, possibly after pruning some earlier purchases to make room. I like the prevalence of mk7 face plates (I'll avoid calling them full helmets as I've discussed that before), and wish I'd have had access to them earlier.

[Interrogator Stobz]

It's definitely a box of two halves, the Ork are triumphant in this one.

These guys are all ok, good to have new poses etc.... but wow I want to play orks now 

 

I was hoping for a better nod to other marks of armour etc. GW missed an opportunity with this release. Still plenty of Edition to go of course....

 

Erk! What on Earth are Ork style skulls doing on a SM Banner? That's awful. The rest of the mini is cool, but that is jarring and awful. 

 

 

[Zoatibix]

It’s definitely very vanilla. I think this is the unfortunate intersection of 

 

a) Primaris generally being less interesting than Firstborn because they are plainer and more homogeneous.

 

b) Marines repeated releases mean they keep up with the cutting edge of sculpting.

 

c) Saturation of releases for Marines / edition churn 

 

In days of yore a new box of Tacticals, for example, would showcase GW’s increasing technological aptitude plus scale creep. I think (for now) we have reached a peak with Marines. GW have kind of painted themselves into a corner.

 

They don’t want to keep adding more units (for now) but we don’t have the same advances in sculpting that we used to see.

 

I like the Chaplain a lot. Jump dudes are cool but the rest doesn’t really interest me as they are.

[MoriyaSchism]

The more I look at the Land Speeder I see more things that could have been done better or will have to be modified. Those headlights have to go, they make me think of a Volkswagen Beetle. Same with those antennas, they look as if someone initially thought of adding two heavy stubbers in those slots. I will probably fill in those bits and replace the headlights/antenna parts with a sensor package and a spotlight like the old miniature. 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by MoriyaSchism

[GryphonnePromethean]

I won't be tempted away from Heresy at this point, but this feels like a really good blend of firstborn and primaris energy. Judging by the responses here maybe that isn't wholly exciting for enfranchised players, but it feels like the right step to take. 

[Malakithe]

Im curious about the VV loadout...will they have access to inferno pistols for the whole unit? If not I might have to drop them from my sally list. Also, while cool, not sure why the throwback to the smaller land speeder while the stormspeeders exist

[ThaneOfTas]

Well. Those are certainly models.

 

The captain is cool I guess, but I honestly prefer the previous Captain with Relic Shield.

 

The Chaplain is good except for the jump pack and ankle jets.

 

The Ancient I actually quite like and will try and pick up.

 

The Librarian is... Eh? I don't hate it as much as some of you, but that base is really over the top.

 

Do not know what people are talking about saying the vanguard vets look better, they all look as boring and bland as each other. Absolutely nothing worth while there, major disappointment.

 

On the other hand I've actually softened on the new intercessors somewhat. Primarily because I'm not longer seeing them as a replacement for the tactical squad, but simple as a replacement to the existing intercessor kit. As a replacement to the tactical squad they're a bland disappointment. On the other hand as a replacement of the intercessor squad they add significantly more variety and character. I'll probably get them and will enjoy having to do a bit less work to kitbash them. Although I'll be waiting to see if the mpk is closer to the Space Would kits or not to see if it will be worth paying more for.

 

The Eradicators are a gravis kit, but they at least aren't boring. 

 

And the speeder is pretty good. I'll try and nab one in the next few months on marketplace.

 

 

Tl;dr: definitely not buying the box. Might get some kits here if there though.

[Jukkiz]

Bonding studs on... Primaris armor? 

What´s this, Primaris mk. 11 herey armor? 

[Marshal Loss]

It is slightly cathartic to see something released which is simply named 'Land Speeder' and not 'Land Speeder Stormhammersmash'. 

 

The marine half is okay overall. I had hoped to see significantly more representation from Mark VI/VII-styled pieces in the set, and I've never liked Gravis armour, but all of the other models are solid enough. The characters are probably the highlight for me with the exception of the Ancient whose banner would look better were it braced on the ground. 

 

Great to see Crimson Fists on the transfer sheet as well. 

[Lord Clinto]

I wish the "Eradicators" were at least a 5-man squad...