Armageddon: The Space Marine Half

[Wormwoods]

16 minutes ago, ShibeKing said:

Also indifferent towards the new random armor mark Intercessors. Definitely a minority opinion here, but I prefer the clean and uniform look of the current Primaris range. Heck, I don't even mix and match the armor marks of my 30k marines.

Meanwhile, I've been doing custom chop-jobs of mongrel marine plate since 9th. If it helps, it's not like most of the changes are major, if you put them all in standard Primaris helms they're scan as being standard intercessors just with some minor chest and greaves variants. 

[Evil Eye]

Looking at the box contents again, I think I'm most excited for the Captain and, believe it or not, the Eradicators. The Captain looks like a really nice character model even if the tactical rock has got to go, and the Eradicators look really quite good for what could have been incredibly forgettable models. I think what I like about them is that they feel conceptually fairly grounded/sensible for Space Marines, but still do enough with the basic idea to make them feel unique. Compared to Inceptors (trying too hard to be different- "Assault Marines in heavy armour with TWO guns! RADICAL!"), Hellblasters/Infernus Marines (not really bringing anything all that new to the table aesthetically- "Unchanged Intercessors armed entirely with plasma guns/flamers. Wooooo.") and Desolators (somehow managing to be both boring AND overdone, with the actual Marines being boring and their guns being...yyyeeeeeaaaah....) they strike a good balance between bringing something new to the table without straying too far from what makes Marines cool. Gravis is definitely one of the nicer Primaris armour designs as is and they have some cool features that make them feel like more than just "Marines with heavy bolters" without turning into early 90s action figures. They feel like (and could easily be represented by) Devastators with heavy bolters with reinforced armour, and that's cool. I'll undoubtedly convert them a bit because I love converting models, but they are very nice little minis.

 

Also goes without saying but the Land Speeder looks great. Looking forward to that one a lot.

[phandaal]

2 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

Looking at the box contents again, I think I'm most excited for the Captain and, believe it or not, the Eradicators. The Captain looks like a really nice character model even if the tactical rock has got to go, and the Eradicators look really quite good for what could have been incredibly forgettable models. I think what I like about them is that they feel conceptually fairly grounded/sensible for Space Marines, but still do enough with the basic idea to make them feel unique.

 

Gravis is great, yeah! Imagine an Eradicator unit with plasma cannons, grav cannons, all that good stuff. Basically, Devastators but in meatball armor.

[Wormwoods]

Yeah, my stance on Gravis - that it looks good when they're holding one big gun, and terrible when duel wielding - remains in place. I like the heavy bolters on 'em. 

[Blindhamster]

Gravis does kind of feel like a natural evolution of the classic up armoured devastators tbh, yeah

[Orange Knight]

I think the Flamer aggressors look off, but the Bolter variants with the grenade launchers grew on me a lot over the years (I have 6 of each).

 

The models aren't nearly as offensive as some claim.

 

On the other hand, the Inceptors still look bad to me and their horrible flight stands don't help at all. I'm tempted to sell all the Inceptors I own because I avoid putting them in lists even when the rules are strong.

[01RTB01]

For the box I'll be doing them as blood angels with the intention of having a battleline, close support and fire support aspects. The close support will be jump pack intercessors which is straightforward.

 

The challenge comes with fire support as it appears to be either eradicators or nerf gun marines? (Apologies as I can't remember their real name). 

[Blindhamster]

40 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

For the box I'll be doing them as blood angels with the intention of having a battleline, close support and fire support aspects. The close support will be jump pack intercessors which is straightforward.

 

The challenge comes with fire support as it appears to be either eradicators or nerf gun marines? (Apologies as I can't remember their real name). 

fire support (blue helmets) for blood angels::

- hellblasters

- infernus squad

- eradicators

- eradicators with boltguns

- eliminators

- aggressors

- desolation squad (the nerf guns)

- suppressors

[Jukkiz]

2 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

Gravis is great, yeah! Imagine an Eradicator unit with plasma cannons, grav cannons, all that good stuff. Basically, Devastators but in meatball armor.

Dunno if this is intended, Backpacks are easy to swap out to accommodate proper ammo supply, just like og devastators. 

Otherwise they don´t need anything specific. Already looking like devastator weapon set up unit. 

[Evil Eye]

2 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

Gravis is great, yeah! Imagine an Eradicator unit with plasma cannons, grav cannons, all that good stuff. Basically, Devastators but in meatball armor.

That'd be neat! Plasma cannons especially (I feel like Hellblasters and Infernus should have been plasma or flamer flavoured Eradicators rather than regular Intercessors but "Oops! All special weapons!") but if they REALLY want to win me over, chem weapons would be awesome. A "Fumigator squad" would, as the kids say, "go hard".

[Blindhamster]

1 hour ago, Evil Eye said:

That'd be neat! Plasma cannons especially (I feel like Hellblasters and Infernus should have been plasma or flamer flavoured Eradicators rather than regular Intercessors but "Oops! All special weapons!") but if they REALLY want to win me over, chem weapons would be awesome. A "Fumigator squad" would, as the kids say, "go hard".

i like hellblasters and infernus squads as a nod to the HH support weapon squads. BUT I can absolutely see heavy weapon versions as eradicator variants, would be cool

[01RTB01]

3 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

fire support (blue helmets) for blood angels::

- hellblasters

- infernus squad

- eradicators

- eradicators with boltguns

- eliminators

- aggressors

- desolation squad (the nerf guns)

- suppressors

 

The desolation squad feel like the natural successor to devastators? With hellblasters being reduced to one type, I wonder if they'll alter in 11th?

[irlLordy]

I kinda felt like primaris support squad equivalents could have been in tacticus armour, and heavy support in gravis. I don't mind too much the melta equivalent in eradicators which to be fair, do also have a multi-melta, but desolators should have been a gravis unit.

[Karhedron]

11 hours ago, irlLordy said:

I kinda felt like primaris support squad equivalents could have been in tacticus armour, and heavy support in gravis. I don't mind too much the melta equivalent in eradicators which to be fair, do also have a multi-melta, but desolators should have been a gravis unit.

 

If you want chonky anti-tank firepower we do still have Lascannon Centurions available.

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

21 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

fire support (blue helmets) for blood angels::

- hellblasters

- infernus squad

- eradicators

- eradicators with boltguns

- eliminators

- aggressors

- desolation squad (the nerf guns)

- suppressors

I maintain tht Aggressors should be yellow helm close support

16 hours ago, irlLordy said:

but desolators should have been a gravis unit.

Shorter range heavy weapons should be gravis e.g. Melta, flame, grav cannon. while mid range should be tacticus. Extra armour neede for getting in close.

[Blindhamster]

2 hours ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

I maintain tht Aggressors should be yellow helm close support

That’s fine, official colour scheme says otherwise though, that’s all. People can do them all just red if preferred to

[Flaherty]

Is the existing Intercessor kit going away? I don't recall that coming up on the livestream or the Q&A.

It feels like they could co-exist pretty easily. Just add an adjective to the new kit – "Veteran Intercessors" or "Armageddon Intercessors" or whatever. Just wondering if I should snag a couple of boxes for posterity.

[Wormwoods]

 

1 hour ago, Flaherty said:

Is the existing Intercessor kit going away? I don't recall that coming up on the livestream or the Q&A.

 

Seems likely. These are just Intercessors, why have two kits? If this had turned out to be that 'Primaris Tactical Squad' people were hoping for, sure, but no this seems to just be a newer version of the same squad. If you want uniform armour mark Intercessors in the old poses (for some reason, I won't judge) yeah, maybe grab a box.

[NothingHere]

2 hours ago, Wormwoods said:

'Primaris Tactical Squad'

A man can dream, lol, who knows maybe the multipart kit has a the special and heavy weapons. I doubt it but i wanna cope a little lol. 

[brother_b]

Most of this box will go to my white scars army to push it towards 2000 points. My chaplain rides a bike so the chaplain will be the start of my new Blood Angels detachment. 

[mel_danes]

Do we have it on good authority the Tactical Squad is getting Squa... er Legended?

 

If it is going to stick around I might convert up a heavy and special in the new style to create the rumoured Primaris Tactical Squad.

I'd dig a maxed graviton squad, pistol sgt, rifle specialist, cannon heavy. They would look cool as hell.

[Karhedron]

I don't know about "good authority", we just have lots of rumour and speculation. This is then compounded by rumours that most of the Rhino-based tanks will also be going to Legends when the new SM codex drops. Ultimately we won't know for sure for a couple of months a least so take anything you hear with a pinch of salt. But personally I would not buy anything that was released before the start of 8th edition for the moment.