What characters would you like to see as models?

[Cpt_Reaper]

I'd like to see Captain Aramus of the Blood Ravens. We had Chapter Master Angelos from Forge World, but a plastic character in the main Codex would be swell. The Blood Ravens deserve something mainline.

[Antarius]

I guess I'd mostly like to see more chapter/legion-specific generic characters. I usually prefer the ones from BL to stay in the books, but generic multi-option character models with more chapter/legion flavour and the possibility to convert up your own Talos/whoever would be a nice compromise, I think.

[Cactus]

Sarpedon of the Soul Drinkers, with full-on spider leg mutation and wielding the Spear of Dorn.

[Orange Knight]

12 hours ago, ThaneOfTas said:

 

Technically two of them already have models, The 10th ed Leviathan Terminator Captain is meant to be Agemman and the 8th Dark Imperium Gravis Captain is meant to be Felix. 

 

Nah, this doesn't count.

 

That's like saying that the generic Sanguinary Priest could technically be Corbulo. He has a chainsword and chalice.

[Grotsmasha]

I think GW misses a trick by not having more tie in novel models.

I first thought this with Beast Arises series.

[ThaneOfTas]

3 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

That's like saying that the generic Sanguinary Priest could technically be Corbulo. He has a chainsword and chalice.

No it's like saying that the Phobos captain was Acheran or the Blood Angels Terminator Captain was Karlean. Because both were explicitly called that at various points and were painted as such. 

 

Here is Agemmans personal heraldry:

And here is the Leviathan Terminator Captain with its GW paint job featuring that heraldry:

 

You'll also note that Agemmans is written on his Pauldron.

 

Now I don't have access to my copy of the Primaris index that came in the Dark Imperium box, but I'm fairly sure the captain was explicitly called out as Felix in that too. (I could well be wrong on this one however, it has been a while).

 

Look I'm not opposed to either character getting new specific sculpts, but I think Acheran shows us that as far as GW is concerned those models are what those characters look like.

Edited May 19 by ThaneOfTas
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[Brother Tyler]

Silas Alberec

[SvenIronhand]

It’s a shocker that Telion or Cassius have yet to receive upgrades.

[Orange Knight]

14 hours ago, ThaneOfTas said:

No it's like saying that the Phobos captain was Acheran or the Blood Angels Terminator Captain was Karlean. Because both were explicitly called that at various points and were painted as such. 

 

Here is Agemmans personal heraldry:

And here is the Leviathan Terminator Captain with its GW paint job featuring that heraldry:

 

You'll also note that Agemmans is written on his Pauldron.

 

Now I don't have access to my copy of the Primaris index that came in the Dark Imperium box, but I'm fairly sure the captain was explicitly called out as Felix in that too. (I could well be wrong on this one however, it has been a while).

 

Look I'm not opposed to either character getting new specific sculpts, but I think Acheran shows us that as far as GW is concerned those models are what those characters look like.

 

Agemman is a good case, but no one is asking for him. The model is also no longer for sale.

 

Felix is a lot more spurious. His armour is gravis, beyond that the original Gravis Captain doesn't have much connection to him. 

 

This is about unique models we would like to see and not some "almost could-be" models - The Phobos Captain could have been Telion, then he became Acheran. In truth he is neither.

Edited May 20 by Orange Knight

[Robbienw]

Generic models painted up as certain character don't turn those models into special character models.  They are still generic.  

[Tawnis]

13 hours ago, SvenIronhand said:

It’s a shocker that Telion or Cassius have yet to receive upgrades.

I still use my old Telion model all the time. I image in we ever get a scout refresh (bikers and storm speeders plus maybe something new) he'd probably come back leading that. 

[Craig]

16 hours ago, Grotsmasha said:

I think GW misses a trick by not having more tie in novel models.

I first thought this with Beast Arises series.

Not having kill teams from the most popular series is a real misstep I feel. There are so many people who have been crying out for a First Claw or Ezekarion set but they have been giving us random types of cultists and Imperial agents instead.

[calgar101]

I'd say if GW really wanted to, they could make HQ kits double up as generic and special. There are so many named guys who deserve table top love. 

[Orange Knight]

2 hours ago, calgar101 said:

I'd say if GW really wanted to, they could make HQ kits double up as generic and special. There are so many named guys who deserve table top love. 

 

That Dark Angel character is exactly that. Lazarus?

He is a unique character but the kit can be assembled into a no name Captain as well. I think that's great.

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

On 5/19/2026 at 3:33 PM, ThaneOfTas said:

No it's like saying that the Phobos captain was Acheran or the Blood Angels Terminator Captain was Karlean. Because both were explicitly called that at various points and were painted as such. 

 

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Now I don't have access to my copy of the Primaris index that came in the Dark Imperium box, but I'm fairly sure the captain was explicitly called out as Felix in that too. (I could well be wrong on this one however, it has been a while).

 

Look I'm not opposed to either character getting new specific sculpts, but I think Acheran shows us that as far as GW is concerned those models are what those characters look like.

 

Have to disagree on Acheran. He was the character associated with the Dark Imperium Gravis Captain. There is no mention of Felix in that Primaris Index and lore-wise, Felix was only ever Captain of the new 11th Company, not the Second. Meanwhile, Acheran is explicitly quoted in that book as the Captain of the Second Company. And then he's also the labelled name for the Gravis Captain in the subsequent codex.

 

On the other hand, him being the Captain in Shadowspear never made any sense. But apparently since the 'eavy Metal team had continued their practice of painting every generic Primaris Marine that came out as an Ultramarine and specifically a Second-Company Ultramarine unless specifically told otherwise, by the time the lore around the Shadowspear box was being put together, they were (excuse the expression) painted into a corner and had to use Acheran and the Second to represent a Vanguard operation even though the material in that box explicitly stated that such Vanguard formations were the domain of the Tenth Company.

 

This is why despite Calgar's battle and rumored death at the hands of Abaddon being mentioned repeatedly in the time since even though he was confirmed to have survived in the very book that the battle took place in, Acheran's supposed death at Nemendghast has never been mentioned since. That whole strike force was supposedly wiped out with the exception of the Librarian, yet when the second Codex comes out just a few months later, Acheran is right back to being in command of Second and no reference to his supposed death or how he managed to survive is referenced at all. I don't believe it was ever mentioned until he died (for real this time) under very different circumstances just recently.

 

If anything, I believe that Phobos Captain was designed with Telion as the inspiration. Doesn't mean he'd have had to be locked in as 10th Company Captain, since there's not even any explicit Ultramarine iconography there let alone a "Telion" plaque. But it would make sense that Jes and crew used him as a reference point given that he was the only 10th-Company character with an existing model and could have made the jump - however reluctantly - during the original century-plus jump from his last appearance to the Dark Imperium era.

[Antarius]

17 hours ago, Craig said:

Not having kill teams from the most popular series is a real misstep I feel. There are so many people who have been crying out for a First Claw or Ezekarion set but they have been giving us random types of cultists and Imperial agents instead.

I love both the NIght Lords Trilogy and the BL duology (still hoping against hope that the third part will eventually come out, but yeah, it won't), but I actually think a big part of Kill Team's appeal is that it gives us "random cultists and imperial agents", precisely because it shows us parts of the 40K universe that we don't usually see. It's not only a great vehicle for ginving us cool and unique models, it also both broadens and deepens the 40K universe.

I know lots of people would buy the black library tie-in Kill Teams but I actually think it might be a mistake, as it could run the risk of turning Kill Team into "collect the heroes from XYZ-series" and make the game more of a MCU-style tie-in, than it's own thing. But that's just speculation of course; if First Claw arrives, I'll be happy for the people who want them.

Edited May 21 by Antarius

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Wasn't there a Red Corsairs techmarine? I can't remember the name but that would be cool given they did the Sorcerer, Apothercary and MoE. 

[calgar101]

Do you mean Armenneus Valthex? He once had a FW model, I never got it but wish I had. Yeah, they should have released a Red Corsair version alongside the others. 

[GSCUprising]

I think, to look at this from another perspective, I'd be very happy if GW released a book called Legendary Heroes, Villains of Infamy (or some such along those lines.)

 

Include rules for as many y characters past and present as they can or choose. Maybe have a Crucible like 'build your own  Nuadhu Fireheart or something, then let the customer base go wild with conversions. 

 

There's a couple of things here to consider. 1. GW only releases rules for models they supply new now. I get the business case for this. 2. What they don't consider are things like convertors, diorama makers abd so on. Granted, we're not a huge part of the market share, but I'll easily buy three models, maybe more, all to make the vision I have of the one, thus spending way more than I would on a generic Wraithlord, for example, the then WIP Wraithseer in the middle. 

Just.my tuppenny's worth.

 

[calgar101]

I'd love Index Astartes: Heroes and Villains, that would be a great book. Past and present is a great idea @GSCUprising

The policy of only having rules for models they make is understandable but yeah it curtails some creativity a fair bit; my manufacturing experience is limited to Agricultural and Industrial sectors buts surely GW could make dual kits? A simple head or weapon swap turns that kit from Tigurius to a generic librarian? Granted not every character could do this but some shared kits could allow for more? 

[GSCUprising]

40 minutes ago, calgar101 said:

I'd love Index Astartes: Heroes and Villains, that would be a great book. Past and present is a great idea @GSCUprising

The policy of only having rules for models they make is understandable but yeah it curtails some creativity a fair bit; my manufacturing experience is limited to Agricultural and Industrial sectors buts surely GW could make dual kits? A simple head or weapon swap turns that kit from Tigurius to a generic librarian? Granted not every character could do this but some shared kits could allow for more? 

Mate, my specialism is audit, compliance, H&S, etc. Someone like you has a far greater insight into manufacturing than I do, haha.

 

Yes. I'm all about dual kits or kits with loads of options. They have done it before, they continue to do so. I do recall some time back there were rumours of a Striking Scorps/Fire Dragons box. That would've been great!

 

Referring to my Crucible comments above, I was a bit wishy-washy in them. I do like the concept of Crucible, the idea of my grey plastic dude being assembled, kitbashed, converted the way I want him or her and letting them forge their own legend in my local gaming group and on here.. Let's take the Fireheart as a for instance:

 

You could have the base Autarch, standard weapon options (eg Star Lance, Reapear Launcher, etc.), jump pack gear, etc. The usual. Then add on some other bits like:

 

You may choose ONE of the following options:
1 x [AELDARI JETBIKE - LEGENDS ONLY], replaces Jump pack, adds 2 x shuriken catapults OR 1 x shuriken cannon OR 1 x Scatter Laser. [MOUNTED] Add +1T and +1 Sv to this model
1 x [AELDARI VYPER - NUADHU FIREHEART ONLY]. replaces Jump pack, adds 2 x shuriken catapults OR 1 x shuriken cannon OR 1 x Scatter Laser. [MOUNTED] Add +1T and +1 Sv to this model
1 x Warp Spider Jump Generator - etc., etc., ...you get the idea.

This means you'd be playing, effectively, an Autarch, geared out the way you want him (you could chose the jetbike model if you prefer, for example), then on his platform mounted on a Vyper. If Fireheart had any particular rules, I cannot recall off the top of my head, they'd be tied in to the Vyper. The finer details of something like this would be better left to someone with more MathHammer patience than me!

 

It's not a perfect nor even first draft solution, just throwing some ideas out there

Edited May 25 by GSCUprising
Reasons.

[GSCUprising]

I've been giving my idea a little thought, just for some personal entertainment and, perhaps, in the event 11th does truly drop Crusade, the better bits of it might be perhaps cobbled in to a homemade campaign ruleset. Anyhow, my first shot at Nuadhu Fireheart/Autarch Skyrunner. I think, ideally, we'd see more options available for our HQ choices in general, as the current limited choice (Crucible excepted) make for most repetitive templates and a good opponent will already know with just a glance what said model is capable of. Feedback most welcome.

 

Incidentally, the statlines for the Vyper and for the Autarch Skyrunner along with weps, abilities, and so on are all publicly available for free download on the Warhammer Community website, so there should be no issue disseminating this information. Please do correct me if I am in error: https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_11-02_warhammer_40000_faction_pack_aeldari-tmtx4nmkgp-ksodwfy7uo.pdf

 

AUTARCH SKYRUNNER - WARHAMMER LEGENDS

Here we'd include the standard Aeldari Autarch Skyrunner [LEGENDS] statlines amended with the below:

WARGEAR OPTIONS:

This model's Laser Lance may be replaced with one of the following:

- 1 Dragon fusion gun

- 1 Banshee blade

This model's Windrider jetbike may be replaced with the following:

- Alean, The Steed of Khaine: increase the unit's toughness and wounds by +1  each (brings it in-line with the Vyper). You may choose ONE of the following weapons in addition its current loadout: 1 x Bright Lance, 1 x Scatter Laser, 1 x Suncannon, 1 x Aeldari Missile Launcher or 1 x Shuriken Cannon. The model is equipped with 1 x Wraithbone Hull melee weapon. The model gains [NUADHU FIREHEART] , {SAIM-HANN], and [VYPER] keywords. + XX points.

 

Just some thoughts. I haven't looked too much into the MathHammer side of things - I've no doubt the keyword switching could add some unforeseen problems with, say, a strat or something. I am more looking at it as someone who is more into the lore side of things. I did think about his legendary daemon-slaying spear but Laser Lance is a good weapon and he'd get additional Wraithbone Hull melee a la the Vyper to represent his use of the Vyper as a chariot-like steed plus he can say "Surprise! Autarch with a Bright Lance, lads."). It's obvious to me, this model would require an additional point spend, but I hope this is a good example of what I had in mind.

 

Edited May 26 by GSCUprising

[GSCUprising]

Just further to this, now I done thunk about it (as you know I enjoy languages: I declare 'thunk' the part participle of think), he should gain the keyword [EPIC CHARACTER] or whatever they're using for "You can only take one of these."

 

You could do this for any character with a named equivalent, really. Nuadhu Fireheart is, at base, an Autarch Skyrunner, but if you equip him a certain way, he becomes Nuadhu Fireheart. I mean, in theory, you could blag it and have him lead an Alaitoc Windrider squad, but it's against the spirit of it.

 

Take Brother-Sergeant of the Legion of the Damned, for example. Named Sgt. of the First Company, has the soul-sucking skull Animus Malorum, can resurrect his fellow Legionnaires.

 

It'd be something like:

 

[insert standard squad inc. sgt here]

 

WARGEAR OPTIONS:

 

[insert standard squad members' wargear options here]

 

The squad's sergeant Boltgun may be replaced with one of the following:

- Bolt Pistol

- Plasma Pistol

- etc. (I don't know Primaris gear)

 

The squad's sergeant close combat weapon may be replaced with:

- 1 x chainsword

- 1 x chainfist

- 1 x power fist

- etc

 

The squad's sergeant may take the ANIMUS MALORUM I you choose this option change the [CHAPTER] keyword of this model and the unit it leads to [LEGION OF THE DAMNED], add [ATTICA CENTURIUS] and [EPIC CHARACTER] to this model's keywords. This model and its squad lose [CHAPTER RULE HERE]

 

- once per turn, this model may make a ranged attack against the nearest enemy squad within 18" causing D3 automatic hits at STR 4, AP-2. For each enemy model destroyed in this way, return one [LEGION OF THE DAMNED] squad member to this unit. Resurrect squad members may act as normal from the following round.

 

Just an idea. This way, you could field your classic model. You could even customise him. The standard Apoc special edition one came with a chainsword. Well, now you can give him a power fist instead..

 

<caveat> I have no clue about NuMarines.

 

OK, am done waffling about this. Just thinking aloud!

[calgar101]

I've not played since 7th so my rules/language knowledge is very outdated. However anything that allows us to create characters is awesome!

I feel the game would benefit going back to its narrative roots more!

 

[GSCUprising]

13 minutes ago, calgar101 said:

I've not played since 7th so my rules/language knowledge is very outdated. However anything that allows us to create characters is awesome!

I feel the game would benefit going back to its narrative roots more!

 

 

Cheers, mate. I was thinking of this in a Crusade context and homebrew rules in the event GW decides to drop it. I play rarely (I don't think I play 7th at all, if I recall) and enjoy a more fluffy game, though I will admit, my Eldar have still got i!

 

I thought the idea of taking a standard HQ or character type, maybe a unit type, and just adding more options, including those of special characters, might add some narrative interest. That said, Crucible is on the right way, though still a little odd with some of its choices, the balance is all a bit weird, and you and your opponent have to allow it.