Mogger351 Posted Sunday at 08:59 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:59 PM The standard my uncle works at Nintendo in a discord and posted to reddit routine continues. No idea of veracity but sharing all the same. Lord Marshal and Ming the Merciless 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Posted Sunday at 09:15 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:15 PM And how many points would one of these goldies be? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM So custodes are same thing as baneblade basically? Got it... GW please move away from D6. There are other die out there Subtleknife, skylerboodie and templargdt 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted Sunday at 09:36 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:36 PM I'm calling nonsense on these. Shinespider, SteveAntilles, Khulu and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khulu Posted Sunday at 09:41 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:41 PM 4 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said: I'm calling nonsense on these. Yeah, no part of this inspires confidence. 01RTB01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted Sunday at 10:00 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:00 PM I can see them going to T6, but T9 is insane. They're as tough as rhinos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Sunday at 10:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:07 PM So they are tougher than Primarchs? Lol I don't buy this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch_135 Posted Sunday at 10:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:52 PM Quote The custodes codex is done, it's physically printed, play testers have it in their hands. Jokes about not playtesting aside, why would the final print be done if it was still being play tested? ursvamp, Doghouse, DarkChaplain and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted Sunday at 11:38 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:38 PM 42 minutes ago, stretch_135 said: Jokes about not playtesting aside, why would the final print be done if it was still being play tested? IIRC it was the 8th ed Wolves codex they did that with; did more playtesting after English version was printed and issued a Day 1 pdf download for the warlord traits or detachment rules ursvamp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted Sunday at 11:53 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:53 PM 1 hour ago, Orange Knight said: So they are tougher than Primarchs? Lol I don't buy this. To be fair we don't know that, as no Primarch has been in a Codex yet. We only just got Orks. That said yeah I don't buy this either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneOfTas Posted Monday at 12:24 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:24 AM The only part of this that I believe is the codex being done, although killing mixed loadout squads is possible too (and would be infuriating) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted Monday at 03:28 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:28 AM Seems totally legit. If this trend keeps up, I expect Knights to be Toughness 50. ggergnayr and Marshal Reinhard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Monday at 06:22 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 06:22 AM So I don't have a horse in the race personally, but in response to a few comments: Ghaz is considered a primarch level model and went t6 to t10 this edition. So maybe not to tougher than a primarch, no. Armour is evidently being used to reflect toughness values this time around, so that might help explain it. There is clearly a balance pass between printing and release, this is why some units for orks had point adjustments until the 11th hour, maybe the reason the points aren't printed. So I can see them being with playtesters for point tweaks. But they want factions to live a factions power fantasy, this would do it for custodes. Slap a 10-20% increase on and we're good as per other books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jings Posted Monday at 06:50 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:50 AM Sounds crazy but thinking about it, it means that Custodes Terminators would be wounded by new Bolters on 6s. Don't buy this tbh (I think T6 with T7/8 for Terms is more likely) but if it's true it's interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Monday at 07:15 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 07:15 AM 22 minutes ago, Jings said: Sounds crazy but thinking about it, it means that Custodes Terminators would be wounded by new Bolters on 6s. Don't buy this tbh (I think T6 with T7/8 for Terms is more likely) but if it's true it's interesting. Conversely I can't imagine intercessors wounding a custode on 4s is going to be desirable for the design team. That and there is the a man is to an astartes, as a marine is to a custodes. A man wounds a marine terminator on 6s now, so a marine wounding a custodes terminator on 6s would be poetic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted Monday at 07:47 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:47 AM Printing and then playtesting the codex is peak game design. 01RTB01 and sarabando 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted Monday at 08:01 AM Share Posted Monday at 08:01 AM While I have no doubt believing that they have an interest in figuring out what to "patch", I obviously don't believe that they print the codex before playtesting (and neither should anyone else). If this rumour is anything but made up, there's obviously some mix up with the wording. ursvamp 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Monday at 08:04 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 08:04 AM (edited) Delayed double post, the cloud flare errors are annoying. Edited Monday at 08:09 AM by Mogger351 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Monday at 08:10 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 08:10 AM 7 minutes ago, Antarius said: While I have no doubt believing that they have an interest in figuring out what to "patch", I obviously don't believe that they print the codex before playtesting (and neither should anyone else). If this rumour is anything but made up, there's obviously some mix up with the wording. Why not both? Test, print, test? If they're only tweaking points for final balance now it would make perfect sense ursvamp and Dosjetka 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted Monday at 12:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:29 PM 15 hours ago, Jukkiz said: Got it... GW please move away from D6. There are other die out there Or better yet, stop inflating stats for no reason (not like they actually make use of the added granularity of the bigger numbers)... DarkChaplain and Zoatibix 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted Monday at 12:57 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:57 PM Since bolters are S6, it don't seem too bad to be so high a toughness value. Still, why is Nintendo involved at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted Monday at 01:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:17 PM Since bolters are S6, it don't seem too bad to be so high a toughness value. Still, why is Nintendo involved at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted Monday at 01:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:20 PM 5 hours ago, Mogger351 said: Why not both? Test, print, test? If they're only tweaking points for final balance now it would make perfect sense Oh, I can absolutely believe they're going to tweak the points (as it seems they do with everything all the time anyway). It was more that some people (and perhaps the rumour itself) seemed to be saying they printed before playtesting, which is very obviously not the way things work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted Monday at 01:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:29 PM 13 hours ago, HeadlessCross said: To be fair we don't know that, as no Primarch has been in a Codex yet. We only just got Orks. That said yeah I don't buy this either. GW publishing a Primarch datasheet to counter these rumours :) Bobby G is T10 Karhedron and ggergnayr 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted Monday at 01:32 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:32 PM Those numbers look absurd frankly. "Basic" Custodes probably shouldn't be more than Toughness 6 or 7 ish, otherwise they kinda just stonewall harder than anything else. Only fielded in 3s is an interesting idea but since the new range and the old range both have kits in 5s I think that'd be limited to some termie types at best. Crimson Longinus and DemonGSides 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/#findComment-6186753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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