Lord Marshal Posted Thursday at 04:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:14 PM (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lathe Biosas said: I sense a future thread... it's murky... I'm getting bits... it sounds like: Do you think the Warhound Titan will be a Legends Only unit in 40k? I don't think it'll be Legends, but it will just be so expensive in points (as it is currently) that it's not viable to run it. Kinda like how competitive Knight lists nearly always end up being Armiger spam. At least until when (if) Titan Guard get 40k rules. Edited Thursday at 04:15 PM by Lord Marshal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted Thursday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:21 PM 3 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said: I don't think it'll be Legends, but it will just be so expensive in points (as it is currently) that it's not viable to run it. Kinda like how competitive Knight lists nearly always end up being Armiger spam. Can confirm. I played against a list that was two Warglaives, a Navigator, a Valiant and a Warhound. Now, I will say that I was just at the store, but I had my league list of Shadow Legion Monster Mash. I did bad things to the poor Titan... specifically, charged it with a LoC to really crimp it's shooting, then had the Bloodthirster do 31 damage in a single combat phase. The Titan then died to failing a Battleshock test whilst within my Shadow of Chaos. My opponent took it like a champ. 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefbringer Posted Thursday at 04:29 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:29 PM Attempts at educated price guess: 1.) The current UK price for a resin Warhound titan with two weapon arms is around £590. One educated price guess for a plastic version would be roughly half of that (£295). 2.) Or perhaps it might be end up costing twice the price of a plastic knight? Depending on model, they are currently priced at £120/125/134 - twice that would be in £240-270 range. 3.) Or maybe it might be ten times the price of an Epic scale version (typical price ratio between Epic/LI and big HH scale models)? Those are currently costed at £51 for a pair - halving that for a single model and then multiplying by ten would give £255 as price estimate. [Whatever the price, I intend to skip it as impractically large - not to mention that I still have a couple of Epic sized versions bending assembly.] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted Thursday at 04:34 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:34 PM It will probably live with my knights that dont see play, but I want two of these, one for each side. Its very exciting, overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted Thursday at 05:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:07 PM (edited) I'm going to need to get another resin one before the run out. As a resin loving snob, this is the way. I must also have a certificate and the metal grill for the top. Can't see either happening with a plastic version. Also, not sure about the weapon/magnet setup compatibility between resin and plastic versions, not worth the risk... The only upside to me with plastic is there will be transfers, those are the missing link for us snobs. I love the slight irregularities with resin, gives a 10,000 year old vibe right from the beginning of ownership. Edit: looking more carefully I can see the grill in plastic, that's that then. Edited Thursday at 05:12 PM by Interrogator Stobz 1 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted Thursday at 05:32 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:32 PM 1 hour ago, Vassakov said: Can confirm. I played against a list that was two Warglaives, a Navigator, a Valiant and a Warhound. Now, I will say that I was just at the store, but I had my league list of Shadow Legion Monster Mash. I did bad things to the poor Titan... specifically, charged it with a LoC to really crimp it's shooting, then had the Bloodthirster do 31 damage in a single combat phase. The Titan then died to failing a Battleshock test whilst within my Shadow of Chaos. My opponent took it like a champ. I played against one a bit back in 40k. Emperor's children defilers got within touching distance pretty quickly and it wasn't pretty. Played against two in heresy and sunkillers and friends soon sorted them out. If they're bringing them in as "affordable" minis, their rules need a boost. 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted Thursday at 06:03 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:03 PM 55 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said: The only upside to me with plastic is there will be transfers, those are the missing link for us snobs. The price??? 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefbringer Posted Thursday at 06:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:12 PM 36 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said: If they're bringing them in as "affordable" minis, their rules need a boost. One option is to use them with the Adeptus Titanicus rules - just multiply all the distances by four to account for the biggier size of the models. All you need for a small game is three warhounds per player, plus a smallish car park for a playing arena. 5 minutes ago, SvenIronhand said: The price??? Price is unlikely to be an issue for a true resin loving snob. 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted Thursday at 06:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:22 PM Spoiler 2 1 10 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soviet1337 Posted Thursday at 06:50 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:50 PM And Calgar is piloting it! 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibbling Posted Thursday at 07:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:10 PM I hope it's real. It'd be a lovely model to build and have on display. I find it difficult to work with superglues due to motor control and plastic is more forgiving for a clutz like me. I might even paint it. No, don't be daft. Of course I won't! 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
de Selby Posted Thursday at 07:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:14 PM Does it fit on a defiler base or will it need an even bigger one? Fun times. I don't even want a plastic warhound and even I kind of want a plastic warhound. We've been talking about this since Apocalypse 1. I wonder if they are building up to giving it rules for the knights mini-game they have been putting in White Dwarf? Fingers crossed for bio-titans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted Thursday at 07:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:16 PM I wonder what the Detachments and Stratagems will look like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefbringer Posted Thursday at 07:29 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:29 PM 9 minutes ago, de Selby said: Does it fit on a defiler base or will it need an even bigger one? Defiler comes with a 160 mm round base, which might look a bit small for a Warhound. Though a lot depends on how widely the legs are spread. The epic version, which is one-quarter in size, is supplied with a 80 mm round base, though might fit on a bit smaller one depending again on how the legs are posed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wordy Posted Thursday at 07:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:43 PM 8 hours ago, Jings said: Curious to see the price. Mate, it’s a plastic Warhound! If it comes down to it I’ll sell one of my livers! 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefbringer Posted Thursday at 07:50 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:50 PM 58 minutes ago, soviet1337 said: And Calgar is piloting it! Warhound does not have an armament option for twin power gloves (or even just one), only shooty weapons. For a proper "two-fisted" ride for a Calgar, you would need a Reaver, or even more preferably, a Warlord class titan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted Thursday at 08:05 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:05 PM 21 minutes ago, Wordy said: Mate, it’s a plastic Warhound! If it comes down to it I’ll sell one of my livers! How many livers do you have, Mutant? 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted Thursday at 08:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:21 PM I'm weirdly not super excited for this at all, maybe that will change. I wonder if this was designed by SG or the main studio (if SG, I'd prefer they spend their time on core units for their games, but they tend to do a great job with these larger kits). It will be nice to see such an iconic unit become more accessible for the masses though. I'll probably pick one up and paint it up as Fureans to go alongside my EC 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefbringer Posted Thursday at 08:30 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:30 PM 20 minutes ago, Lathe Biosas said: How many livers do you have, Mutant? The last I checked, all good Astartes have three kidneys, two hearts and one liver. 3 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said: I wonder if this was designed by SG or the main studio (if SG, I'd prefer they spend their time on core units for their games, but they tend to do a great job with these larger kits). No idea, though I would expect it to be partially based on an upscaled version of the plastic epic scale warhound (by SGS), with some components split into multiple parts and additional detail thrown in. Would need good sprue shots for a proper comparison. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted Thursday at 08:53 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:53 PM 4 hours ago, Lord Marshal said: I don't think it'll be Legends, but it will just be so expensive in points (as it is currently) that it's not viable to run it. Kinda like how competitive Knight lists nearly always end up being Armiger spam. At least until when (if) Titan Guard get 40k rules. Or you use HH rules were titans are fun and engaging for both sides of the table. Playing 40k means no fun units allowed and everybody knows it. It's to farm money so that they can run the fun games. If you truly want to play models by looks and not by crunch you look at other games than the golden goose of the games workshop universe. 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted Thursday at 09:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:24 PM I'm definitely not getting one, but I guess it'll be fun to see lots of warhounds floating about for a while. 1 hour ago, de Selby said: Does it fit on a defiler base or will it need an even bigger one? Maybe a defiler base for each foot. But yeah, 160mm will be way too small. Quick google says 280mm oval for 3rd party bases. current FW Warhound has no base. 4 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said: I'm going to need to get another resin one before the run out. As a resin loving snob, this is the way. I must also have a certificate and the metal grill for the top. Can't see either happening with a plastic version. Yeah resin will always be cool. I don't think the plastic detail is going to be as crisp as this 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wugo_Heaving Posted Thursday at 09:40 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:40 PM 9 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said: There will be no being around Valrak after this is confirmed. Ill be able to hear the "vindication" across the Atlantic "Vindication?" There are people who work for GW who leak photos and info to friends, but who don't immediately create their whole persona about it and start sharing photos they've been asked not to, online. Testing for the sprues was earlier in the year and a lot of people have known about it for a long while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kommisar_K Posted Thursday at 10:35 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:35 PM Someone was asking about the copyright date on the sprues and I don't know if it's been addressed. I'm pretty sure it's 2026. Valrak zoomed in on a few parts in his video and while I don't think he specifically mentioned it, you can make out some of the info in the edges. Anyway, this looks cool! The warhound is my least favorite of the titan classes, but still, a plastic kit should be wildly popular. And maybe we'll get some other plastics in the coming years! 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted Thursday at 10:39 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 10:39 PM I imagine if they try to shoe-horn it into the normal game, it will be the flavor of the year then properly nerfed after all the main sales per GW norm. But here is hoping some sort of supplement and return to APOC that isnt what was presented in the end of 10th iron warrior books. I would love to see an update to the 3rd edition apoc ruleset that was completely independent from the core rules and designed for a simpler and quicker ruleset for large games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted Thursday at 11:02 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:02 PM 25 minutes ago, Kommisar_K said: Someone was asking about the copyright date on the sprues and I don't know if it's been addressed. I'm pretty sure it's 2026. Valrak zoomed in on a few parts in his video and while I don't think he specifically mentioned it, you can make out some of the info in the edges. Anyway, this looks cool! The warhound is my least favorite of the titan classes, but still, a plastic kit should be wildly popular. And maybe we'll get some other plastics in the coming years! That was me who asked about the copyright, thanks for the help, I couldn't make out anything 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388767-warhound-titan/page/3/#findComment-6194277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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