Brat Igorus Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Can we know what other sources say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Here is a summary of what people were saying from a month or two back: Brother Adelard, on 15 Apr 2021 - 3:26 PM, said:The rumours are pretty minimal.First off we have the Warhammer Community announcement which told us that the Indexes released in the FAQ section, were to tide several chapters over until their supplements were released.However, many of us are taking that with a massive pinch of salt, because last time we got a 'supplement' it was just Faith and Fury, which while being described as supplement tier content. Wasn't.Next came the rumours from several sources, without pictorial evidence I hasten to add, that Primaris Helbrecht has been seen in the wild, and we will not be disappointed. (Well, unless you're a die hard firstborn fan I suppose.)Those sources include Valrak, who is known as a good place to drop said rumours, but he's played it relatively low key.Marshal Laeroth has also dropped hints that decent rules are coming, and he was spot on when he said that the Crusader points going down to 15 was not a mistake, and was validated when the updates came out and didn't update that coat, despite all the claims that it was clearly and wrror. Finally, Sete reappeared from his self-imposed crusade of exile to bring news that good things ARE coming. Sete has connections with a French speaking source, who appears to be part of the French translation system, and has been spot on about things in the past.However, the timescale for that announcement has seemingly slipped considerably as everything else has been put back.As far as I can recall, that's about it for rumours.What we can surmise is this: There is no way that GW will let us just keep playing with a ruleset which they have given away for free forever. It's anathema to them. So we can safely assume that rules are coming in some form of paid for printed material.This leaves three options as far as I see it.Best option is a new Codex Supplement: Black Templars, with new models, new rules and crucially a decent fluff update for the first time since 4th edition. Which we desperately need to reconcile some of the issues in the lore, particularly concerning the role of Primaris.Option two is a repeat of Faith and Fury, where our rules end up in a War Zone book like Charadon, and we get a token model to keep us sweet.*Option three is we get an Index article in White Dwarf. This option would suck for several reasons, a) it means model support is vanishingly unlikely, fluff updates would be minimal, and it would make it very difficult for new players to play the army as the rules are in a time-limited magazine.So for now, we wait. As we have done, for almost two decades now... *As Reinhard as pointed out on numerous occasions, even a single new Templar model would be really good news for the range. At the moment out model range consists of regular Space Marine releases, an ancient plastic upgrade sprue box which is creaking at the seams, and a fair few finecast models. That makes our range very easy to cull. GW stops making finecast: characters gone. GW stops making the upgrade sprue: official flavour done. We are then no better off than almost every other successor chapter in terms of model support.However, one single plastic model would signify ongoing financial investment in the chapter, arguably leading to more as time goes by. I agree with this sentiment, and really hope the Primaris Helbrecht rumours come true, as it signifies hope.for the future. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 As far as I know the upcoming release is 100% primaris, I can confirm Valrak information. It's not a rumour dudes. It's legit. It's a big release aswell, Valrak did say October, and I heard the same thing from my legit dude. I hope he does not mind sharing since it's already out. Amazing stuff is coming. This is from me. The decade angry guy. I'm super happy now. Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat Igorus Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 A French streamer (French wargame Studios) talks about September.So September it can be at the end of this month. But he talks about the start of the school year.The most important thing is that something happens. For the Emperor God !!! Marshal Reinhard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 So my source gave me the okay to talk about it more, made a video if you want to watch it but I will summarise it here: https://youtu.be/CkBGQdLCp2U Looking at 5 new Characters:GrimHelbrectEmperors ChampionCastellanAncientInfantry:New CrusadersNew Sword BrethrenVehicle Upgrade KitEnjoy :) Noserenda, Sarvis, Marius_Aurilius and 11 others 14 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Oh holy Emperor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) So my source gave me the okay to talk about it more, made a video if you want to watch it but I will summarise it here: https://youtu.be/CkBGQdLCp2U Looking at 5 new Characters: Grim Helbrect Emperors Champion Castellan Ancient Infantry: New Crusaders New Sword Brethren Vehicle Upgrade Kit Enjoy Aaand this is pretty much in line with what you've heard too, isn't it Sete? So we got two sources saying the same thing EDIT: I'm just glad the ice has been broken on this. I've wanted to talk about it for sooo long now. Edited June 16, 2021 by Reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I CAN'T AFFORD THIS MUCH ATTENTION FROM GW!! The Spanish Inquisitor 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painting.for.my.sanity Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 BRB, picking my jaw back up off the floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spanish Inquisitor Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 So my source gave me the okay to talk about it more, made a video if you want to watch it but I will summarise it here: https://youtu.be/CkBGQdLCp2U Looking at 5 new Characters: Grim Helbrect Emperors Champion Castellan Ancient Infantry: New Crusaders New Sword Brethren Vehicle Upgrade Kit Enjoy Thank you so much for sharing ! I hear a great warcry from all the crusaders throughout the world: NO PITY NO REMORSE ! NO FEAR ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat Igorus Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Thanks you Valrak !!!! Soon We will exterminate all those who are not like us!!! Marius_Aurilius and Sarvis 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I believe there was also new neophytes coming as well.... However, they are most likely not BT specific, so that'd suggest a new scout kit coming sometime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvis Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Crusaders as in crusader squad? Or like the ministorum crusaders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Crusader squad. Marines and neophytes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excelite Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I really hope this gets split up for a phased release… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) So my source gave me the okay to talk about it more, made a video if you want to watch it but I will summarise it here: Looking at 5 new Characters: Grim Helbrect Emperors Champion Castellan Ancient Infantry: New Crusaders New Sword Brethren Vehicle Upgrade Kit Enjoy Aaand this is pretty much in line with what you've heard too, isn't it Sete? So we got two sources saying the same thing EDIT: I'm just glad the ice has been broken on this. I've wanted to talk about it for sooo long now. Yes just like I was told last year. The veichle sprue is news to me tho,and I only heard about the Ancient recently. but the veichle sprue might involve a melta weapon Valrak? Edited June 16, 2021 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 thats more then I can believe to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 So my source gave me the okay to talk about it more, made a video if you want to watch it but I will summarise it here: Looking at 5 new Characters: Grim Helbrect Emperors Champion Castellan Ancient Infantry: New Crusaders New Sword Brethren Vehicle Upgrade Kit Enjoy Aaand this is pretty much in line with what you've heard too, isn't it Sete? So we got two sources saying the same thing EDIT: I'm just glad the ice has been broken on this. I've wanted to talk about it for sooo long now. Yes just like I was told last year. The veichle sprue is news to me tho,and I only heard about the Ancient recently. but the veichle sprue might involve a melta weapon Valrak? Maybe, yeah Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytoy Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Very glad I'm not getting Dominion. With this and the heresy leaks, it's going to be an expensive year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius_Aurilius Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 The old guard are going to be so mad about going full Primaris. That is the future however and I can't wait for it!I only have a Primaris BT army with the old fine cast character models. Finally being able to put Helbrecht or EC in an impulsor along with BGV will be a dream come true. On top of that, be able to actually use our army to full effectiveness with the powers of Primaris.We will be a force to be reckoned with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 So my source gave me the okay to talk about it more [...] I did resurrect the "Next Primaris Reveal" thread in the main Space Marines forum if anyone with a toe in both Templar and non-Templar camps cares to give their thoughts on what this may mean for the generic line going forward: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370307-next-primaris-reveal-or-release-speculation/?p=5711634 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 So September it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 So my source gave me the okay to talk about it more, made a video if you want to watch it but I will summarise it here: Looking at 5 new Characters: Grim Helbrect Emperors Champion Castellan Ancient Infantry: New Crusaders New Sword Brethren Vehicle Upgrade Kit Enjoy :) Does Grim include Ceno Bros? Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Geez, this is alot to take in. Hard to believe a complete range refresh. But valrak said he will delete his channel if Templars don't come, that's certainty. Marius_Aurilius and Chapter Master Valrak 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 So my source gave me the okay to talk about it more, made a video if you want to watch it but I will summarise it here: Looking at 5 new Characters: Grim Helbrect Emperors Champion Castellan Ancient Infantry: New Crusaders New Sword Brethren Vehicle Upgrade Kit Enjoy Does Grim include Ceno Bros? Yes. One of them is allegedly carrying the skeleton with the W from the recent rumor engine. Also, Helbrecht has his own ceno bros Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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