Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'm liking the list so far. Interestingly enough, the pattern of factionalism seems to follow the fluff - there are more Puritans out there than Radicals. :woot: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1793306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senseilord Ashahara Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 [character] "brother, what would you have us do? the imperium is failing. The Golden throne has flaws in is, and we are beset on all sides bythe faces of Chaos. Chaos is our enemy by nature, the xenos our enemy only if we wish it. the eldar have been battling chaos for eons, and i see no reason to argue with the tau. This is not what the emperor wished, we have some petty "high lords" ruling in his suposed name, while only a few actuall seek to help the imperium. Misguided fools like Senseilord Ashahara will add more enemies to the threat of chaos. We must stand together, or die-Inquisitor Lord James" Brother, If the Imperium is failing it is because backsliders seek Alliance with Xenos and Mutant races! They are not our allies! They are the enemies of our blood! They are the enemies of the Divine Emperor of Mankind and so they are the enemies of mankind itself! The Eldar fight Chaos for the same reason the Grox fights the Carnodon - fear and self preservation. They are Damned but yet they cling to existance through hoodwinking the naive and murdering the Innocent. It is the responsibility of His forces and the Holy Ordo Xenos to erase their taint from His galaxy. How can you see no quarrel with the Tau? Do they not spread Xenophile Heresy amoungst His people? Do they not seek to conquor and subjergate His worlds? And finally, How dare you besmirch the name of the High Lords and speak for the Will of the Emperor?! Your Blasphemies lead me to question the competance of the Inquisitor who inducted you to his household, let alone those that elavated you from Interrorgator [/character] "thats the trouble with being in-character - our characters have no knowledge of matters outside the 40k Universe." True. And also blinkering yourself to only what agents of the Imperium could know or accept is a challenge. "Interestingly enough, the pattern of factionalism seems to follow the fluff - there are more Puritans out there than Radicals." I'm quite pleasently suprised by that too. The reason O'Dorihan is so frothingly Puritanical is a reaction to the fact that most the Inquisiton armies I come across are pretty Radical. I suppose I'm just a contrary old git. It's also why my Night Lords are shamlessly Chaotic and my Alpha Legion are pretty Chaossy too. Damn Black Libary- they do make exceedingly good books but The Kidz will take one idea and run too far with it. (For those that might be casually intrested, SenseiLord Ashahara is a master of the Alpha Legion) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1793599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 [character] Brother, If the Imperium is failing it is because backsliders seek Alliance with Xenos and Mutant races! They are not our allies! They are the enemies of our blood! They are the enemies of the Divine Emperor of Mankind and so they are the enemies of mankind itself! The Eldar fight Chaos for the same reason the Grox fights the Carnodon - fear and self preservation. They are Damned but yet they cling to existance through hoodwinking the naive and murdering the Innocent. It is the responsibility of His forces and the Holy Ordo Xenos to erase their taint from His galaxy. How can you see no quarrel with the Tau? Do they not spread Xenophile Heresy amoungst His people? Do they not seek to conquor and subjergate His worlds? And finally, How dare you besmirch the name of the High Lords and speak for the Will of the Emperor?! Your Blasphemies lead me to question the competance of the Inquisitor who inducted you to his household, let alone those that elavated you from Interrorgator *in character* the eldar fight chaos for the same reasons we do, to destroy it. Maybe if we stopped trying to wipe out our only possible allies, they would not be attacking the imperium. I never said i spoke for the will of the emperor, What i said is that the High lords (except the inquisition) don't, with a few exception-Inquisitor lord James *end of being in character* yes, it is hard trying to accept whta only inquisitor would know or accept Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1793800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 (this post is entirely OOC (out of character)) "thats the trouble with being in-character - our characters have no knowledge of matters outside the 40k Universe." True. And also blinkering yourself to only what agents of the Imperium could know or accept is a challenge. The challenge is part of the fun though... :) "Interestingly enough, the pattern of factionalism seems to follow the fluff - there are more Puritans out there than Radicals." I'm quite pleasently suprised by that too. The reason O'Dorihan is so frothingly Puritanical is a reaction to the fact that most the Inquisiton armies I come across are pretty Radical. I haven't ran into too many other Inquisition armies around here.. mostly it's just me. A few people seem to always be starting Sisters and I always hear of a Grey Knights player but never see them. I'm the only one that really focuses on an Inquisitor though. Edit: There's also the point that most people opposed to the Imperium chose Chaos Marines, Chaos Daemons, or one of the various Xenos forces. Not a lot want to play traitors, The Lost and the Damned, or plot the downfall of the Imperium from within. I've noticed more experienced gamers and role-players like the complicated subtle stuff... new folks go for obvious. I suppose I'm just a contrary old git.It's also why my Night Lords are shamlessly Chaotic and my Alpha Legion are pretty Chaossy too. I would say you're stylistically old school ;) It sounds better, and we all know it's in how you phrase and present your arguments... Damn Black Libary- they do make exceedingly good books but The Kidz will take one idea and run too far with it. (For those that might be casually intrested, SenseiLord Ashahara is a master of the Alpha Legion) At the same time, without Black Library we'd be limited by solely the fluff in the Codices.. and that's kinda limited, especially when I read across a tidbit and my brain wants them to expand on it, but they run out of space. I'm rather happy I discovered the Black Library in the last couple of years, otherwise I would be driving myself mad... I do agree though, the Black Library fluff ideas really aren't for the brand new people, or people who wouldn't make good paper and pencil gamers. Creativity is great, but stick within the limits imposed by ALL the reference material, IMO. And I think the idea of playing and making an army list to represent an Alpha Legion representative in the Inquisition itself is total Win ;) Kudos! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1793802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 At the same time, without Black Library we'd be limited by solely the fluff in the Codices.. and that's kinda limited, especially when I read across a tidbit and my brain wants them to expand on it, but they run out of space. I'm rather happy I discovered the Black Library in the last couple of years, otherwise I would be driving myself mad... Try some of Forgeworld's stuff. Technically they have the same canonicity value as BL, but unlike BL they actually try (and succeed) not to break existing canon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1793873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Orlock Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Try some of Forgeworld's stuff. Technically they have the same canonicity value as BL, but unlike BL they actually try (and succeed) not to break existing canon.If they actually try to achieve compliance, shouldn't they rate as a superior canon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1793892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 They're superior at being a budget drain too.. ugh... I wish they'd be less than approximately $100 US for a book :( That's the biggest reason I don't own the lot of them! Granted the exchange rate is getting better, but it's still around $60 to 80 per. Yeah... maybe some day :) Okay, I'm done derailing the thread now.. ahem... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1793917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfen Lord Leo Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 the eldar fight chaos for the same reasons we do, to destroy it. Maybe if we stopped trying to wipe out our only possible allies, they would not be attacking the imperium. I never said i spoke for the will of the emperor, What i said is that the High lords (except the inquisition) don't, with a few exception-Inquisitor lord James *In character, Inquisitor Lord William* That speak is heresy brother, no good can be made of consorting with the Xenos, especially the Xenos-witch. At best they are a tool for us to munipulate in order to destroy, at worst they are who we are to destroy. As for the High Lords, they are representive of the Emperor's will, they speak for him on Terra because he cannot speak himself. Inquisitor Lord William *End in Character Inquisitor Lord William* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1793956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 (The emperors chosen @ Dec 3 2008, 04:55 AM) the eldar fight chaos for the same reasons we do, to destroy it. Maybe if we stopped trying to wipe out our only possible allies, they would not be attacking the imperium. I never said i spoke for the will of the emperor, What i said is that the High lords (except the inquisition) don't, with a few exception-Inquisitor lord James *In Character* The Eldar fight for their own preservation and their faint dreams of reclaiming their galactic empire. The revered Inquisitor Czevak's research has indicated that the Eldar have been behind numerous conflicts in the Imperium, the Orks being redirected Armageddon is a prime example. They practise manipulation on a grand scale, and should be considered no more worthy than a servant of The Great Manipulator. *End in character* For those who don't know, all previous fluff on Gw's old website on Eldar was written from the perspective of Inquisitor Czevak, he is the expert on Eldar (just as Kryptmann is for Tyranids) and in the only human to have been inside the Black Library. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfen Lord Leo Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 For those who don't know, all previous fluff on Gw's old website on Eldar was written from the perspective of Inquisitor Czevak, he is the expert on Eldar (just as Kryptmann is for Tyranids) and in the only human to have been inside the Black Library. OOC:He isn't, hes one of the few that has, according to the Eldar codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Guy Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Inquisitor Edmund Vonelign is Thorian but welcome to the ideas of Horusian. ... not possible, your either one or the other. Horusians and Thorians are archenemies, as outlined in the Thorian Scourcebook. Well, poo. I guess he's just a moderate Thorian then. Where is that source book BTW? Is it Inquisitor or fluff book or what? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfen Lord Leo Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Inquisitor Edmund Vonelign is Thorian but welcome to the ideas of Horusian. ... not possible, your either one or the other. Horusians and Thorians are archenemies, as outlined in the Thorian Scourcebook. Well, poo. I guess he's just a moderate Thorian then. Where is that source book BTW? Is it Inquisitor or fluff book or what? Look on the GW site under Inquisitor (the game system), its a downloadable file that has a lot of info on Thorians in perticular and the Inquisition in general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 The Thorian sourcebook is downloadable as a PDF file from the GW website. Look under 'Specialist Games', 'Inquisitor', 'Inquisitor Resources'. It will be there for free download. ++EDIT Damn, beaten to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunch Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Well, this is my first post, but I think I'll put it here, as I feel rather strongly about this subject... Shunch; Inquisitor Lord Nikolai Basavriuk; Ordo Malleus. Philosophy: Horusian Ah yes, I hear your cries now. "Horusian?! Heretic!". But hear me out. Young Interrogator Basavriuk began his active duty as a hard edge Thorian. After many years of serving the Imperium, he found he grew tired of the constant inadequacies of his ailing government. As his distrust in the ability of the Imperium turned to depression, Basavriuk began to seek alternative methods. After many long hours of analyzing his Thorian beliefs, Basavriuk came to a jarring philosophical epiphany - the supposedly Almighty God-Emperor is not the true Emperor at all. So much like Sebastien Thor, the so-called 'Emperor' is in fact an avatar, a physical conduit for a fraction of the true Emperor's will. How could a god fall to the blades of one such as Horus? Basavriuk, in due time, came to the conclusion that binding the false Emperor to his dead body was preventing the manifestation of the true Emperor, and it is matter of dire importance that the decrepit corpse on the Golden Throne be allowed to die, so that the real God-Emperor of Mankind could ascend the mortal plane and guide humanity into a true Golden Age. Essentially, his creed in a nutshell is that we need another Horus to step in, kill the false Emperor, and allow a brand new entity, the real Emperor, to assume his rightful place. These beliefs have caused him to be henceforth labeled a "Horusian". Naturally, with the ultimate goal of seeing the presupposed Emperor dead, Basavriuk has transcended the disposition of being a 'rogue element' and has long since been excommunicated. Nonetheless, he continues his work in the Emperor's name and fights in the hopes that mankind will one day realize its true potential. He does not place himself above the use of warp entities either - partially out of pragmatism, but also because Basavriuk's beliefs have descended into conspiracy theories. He has convinced himself that the Imperium is feeding its citizens lies so the High Lords can hold power, and that the evil of the warp is chief amongst these. He has decided the warp is feared and regulated because it alone has the power to re-instate the true Emperor of Mankind. Basavriuk has even begun to question the validity of the Horus Heresy, as told by Imperial Historians. In short, the Imperium has lost its way, everything is a lie, the Emperor is not dead because he has never lived, and the Immaterium is power. So, in retrospect, your cries of "heretic!" are not completely unfounded - I just wanted you hidebound puritans to know the whole story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senseilord Ashahara Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Out of character (and feeling a tad strange for it now - I think O'Dorihan might have been seizing control) through this post and quoting the venerable Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen. "The challenge is part of the fun though..." Couldn't agree more. I've not been moved to check the B&C forum more than once a day before. Nor have I been inspired to do so much nerdish writing on a thread or in my note books. This thread really has allowed me to explore my own Inquisitor (and his band) as well as the motivations of the Inquisition at large. So excellent idea and applause all round to the people who started the thread. "There's also the point that most people opposed to the Imperium chose Chaos Marines, Chaos Daemons, or one of the various Xenos forces. Not a lot want to play traitors, The Lost and the Damned, or plot the downfall of the Imperium from within." True. The diatribe against the Astartes in O'Dorihan's first sermon/rant stems from when I play down my local GW about 70-80% of the armies I fight are Space Marines and I wanted to justify that propperly. With the exception of a Dark Eldar force that I'm fiddling around with, I've never been speically taken by the Xenos races; the dicotamy (massive sp mistake) of the Imperium; the unrelenting horror of the day to day existance, the internal power struggles, the falling from the within, the all pervasive and all powerful Theocracy. It facinates me and I find that so much more intresting to explore, because we already know the motivations and feelings of mankind by dint of being human ourselves. The Inquisition (and for me, the Ordo Hereticus) are the top expression of that. "At the same time, without Black Library we'd be limited by solely the fluff in the Codices.. and that's kinda limited, especially when I read across a tidbit and my brain wants them to expand on it, but they run out of space. I'm rather happy I discovered the Black Library in the last couple of years, otherwise I would be driving myself mad... I do agree though, the Black Library fluff ideas really aren't for the brand new people, or people who wouldn't make good paper and pencil gamers. Creativity is great, but stick within the limits imposed by ALL the reference material, IMO." Oh I totally agree but there's a tendancey to take one aspect and ingnore all else, as shown espeically with Lord Of The Night. It's a fantastic book that I love but Senschal is _one_ marine who's been kipping for thousands of years. He's not representative of the Night Lords. But all of a sudden this Puritaincal Night Lords faction developed. It's was odd. And as an Alpha Legion player, it seems to me that Legion is the most hotly debated book since The Bible. The BL books are top but there is a tendancey with some hobbists to take what's there being fed to them and then to abandon any creative responsiblity of their own. "And I think the idea of playing and making an army list to represent an Alpha Legion representative in the Inquisition itself is total Win. Kudos! " It probably would be but the kudos is sadly unfounded. Ashahara is a character that developed from running a Lost And Damned army of traitor guard. I put in a squad of Chaos Space marines to beef them up alittle bit and Ashahara was their Champion. I ran abit further with the idea and built a pure Alpha Legion army. When I joined B&C I was pretty much exclusively playing Alpha Legion so used the name as my log in. No connection with the Inquisition. Just coincidence that my current major project is Inquisition. Right, not preaching feels wrong : Where's the next Heretic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 *In Character* While I will admit that in the long run Xenos will be something will have to always fight I can see the Elder as allies against Chaos when allowed as a measure of pragmatic Value. As for Orks, if you can redirect thier threat on Chaos, Necrons or 'Nids I think that can only help the Imperium save manpower. it amazes me how willing some commanders are in throwing human lives away. certianly the Emperor wanted what was best for his people. I afraid far too many people forget that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (OOC for the first part) Out of character (and feeling a tad strange for it now - I think O'Dorihan might have been seizing control) through this post and quoting the venerable Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen. Sweet! I'm venerable ^_^ *pats his Inquisitor Lady model on the head* It's okay Nicki, I'm sure he means by experience and track record of awesomeness, not implying that you're old. No, no.. put the Sister's flamer down... True. The diatribe against the Astartes in O'Dorihan's first sermon/rant stems from when I play down my local GW about 70-80% of the armies I fight are Space Marines and I wanted to justify that propperly.With the exception of a Dark Eldar force that I'm fiddling around with, I've never been speically taken by the Xenos races; the dicotamy (massive sp mistake) of the Imperium; the unrelenting horror of the day to day existance, the internal power struggles, the falling from the within, the all pervasive and all powerful Theocracy. It facinates me and I find that so much more intresting to explore, because we already know the motivations and feelings of mankind by dint of being human ourselves. The Inquisition (and for me, the Ordo Hereticus) are the top expression of that. I agree. As a Star Wars buff.. I am constantly reminded of Darth Vader as I play my Inquisitor.. the feeling is quite awesome and fun too! It's just so.. dark and brooding! Getting another avenue to explore her beliefs is incredible fun.. makes me wish for a horde of Inquisitor scale bits so I can assemble her as a figure to never get to use ;) Oh I totally agree but there's a tendancey to take one aspect and ingnore all else, as shown espeically with Lord Of The Night. It's a fantastic book that I love but Senschal is _one_ marine who's been kipping for thousands of years. He's not representative of the Night Lords. But all of a sudden this Puritaincal Night Lords faction developed. It's was odd. And as an Alpha Legion player, it seems to me that Legion is the most hotly debated book since The Bible.The BL books are top but there is a tendancey with some hobbists to take what's there being fed to them and then to abandon any creative responsiblity of their own. Just like the history of the overabundance of Drizzt clones in any D&D circle.. ugh.. makes me want to puke! It probably would be but the kudos is sadly unfounded. Ashahara is a character that developed from running a Lost And Damned army of traitor guard. I put in a squad of Chaos Space marines to beef them up alittle bit and Ashahara was their Champion. I ran abit further with the idea and built a pure Alpha Legion army. When I joined B&C I was pretty much exclusively playing Alpha Legion so used the name as my log in. No connection with the Inquisition. Just coincidence that my current major project is Inquisition. Easy as pie.. ahem.. use an Inquisition force with Inducted Space Marines. Paint said Space Marines up in Alpha Legion colors, use an Inquisitor, and various Inducted Guardsmen as "traitors" and Inquisitorial Storm Troopers as cool guys. Heck.. use Warhammer Fantasy beastmen armed with lasguns (which I've been sorely tempted to do for quite some time). Behold, a Codex Legit Lost and the Damned army! :lol: You still get credit for coolness, IMO. You could also then get to use things like Daemonhosts, Death Cult Assassins as close combat khorne fellows or something. A "Counts As" Eversor could make a great big giant mutant of destruction. Ashahara would be corrupting the Inquisition and using said agents from within the Imperium itself :) Well, this is my first post, but I think I'll put it here, as I feel rather strongly about this subject... ... So, in retrospect, your cries of "heretic!" are not completely unfounded - I just wanted you hidebound puritans to know the whole story. And an awesome story it is! I particularly liked how you established where he came from and what led to the various descent into radicalism.. knowing that most people don't just start out a radical :) I've been wondering what will happen to my own Inquisitor as she starts to experience more distaste for the inflexiblity of the Imperium in it's methods.. whether she will embrace the stance of oppression, or decide that the battle for mankind's survival is more important than the battle for the Imperium. Of course, that would mean I'd have to ditch the Grey Knights, Sisters of the Sacred Rose and the Blood Ravens, so I'll have to see ;) Okay, now for the In Character portion... (IC) "The question has been posed of, "What would you have us do?" I believe it is a rather simple question with a clear, concise answer. We must survive victoriously. There are two key portions of this statement, survival and victory. Victory is ever at the forefront of any able military commander, those of you who are not Cadian born or who have not interacted with the Ordos Militant or other branches of the Imperial armies may not have as much field knowledge as others at what this really means. Victory is completing a predetermined set of objectives. We must then ask ourselves what objectives are we trying to complete? The utter destruction of our enemies? The complete elimination of all heretical and rogue elements of society? The expansion of the Imperium into all of known space? "In truth, the only mind that knows the true goal of the Imperium is the one who founded it, the God-Emperor of Mankind, may his name be eternally praised. As he may not communicate with us from the Golden Throne we cannot divine his intentions nor his goals for the Imperium he has founded. We must therefore concentrate upon the more clear task at hand, survival. We must survive against all enemies with hostile intentions towards our Imperium. We must not simply roll over, lay down and die. We cannot trust that alien heretics would have the best interests of mankind in "the Greater Good." We cannot trust that resurrections of lost empires would hold any place for Mankind. We certainly know the races that seek only our physical destruction cannot be reasoned with. "The Imperium was nearly destroyed at it's outset by forces conspiring and seeking to harness the powers of Chaos. We cannot risk such an event happening again, no matter what possible gains may come of it. I do not believe any such dabbling can develop gains worth the price. Some xenos entities wish the utter destruction of everything in the galaxy, some wish to conquer or reclaim. We must prioritize ourselves to eliminate first the ones who wish our deaths: The ork, the tyrannid, the necron. Let our other foes help expend their strength against these common threats, for as long as they are turned to face them they do not have the luxary of fighting us as well. Once these threats are eliminated, let us conquer those who would seek to conquer us, and eliminate any traces of their influence over mankind. "Survival is necessary to achieve Victory. Until the Emperor has a means of making his will known we must work towards eliminating any threat we perceive in our own areas of influence, so that the Imperium of Man may survive. All other concerns are secondary and inconsequential." (end IC) (resume OOC) Yes, outwardly she does seem to be a bit more generic Puritan, but it is my belief that someone who is really investigating the question of existance, what is life and divinity, and looking for instances of Divine Avatars so that ultimately the Emperor may leave the Golden Throne (rather killing the lifeless corpse within it and giving the Emperor's essence a new body) and provide leadership to his Imperium would be well served by not drawing attention to those facts. ;) Lets preserve the Imperium now, so that once the Emperor is reborn he can tell us what to do with it. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen Posted Today, 06:50 PM "Survival is necessary to achieve Victory. Until the Emperor has a means of making his will known we must work towards eliminating any threat we perceive in our own areas of influence, so that the Imperium of Man may survive. All other concerns are secondary and inconsequential." *In character* Oddly enough I find myself agreeing with this statement. So this is why Thorians are still classed as Puritans . . . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1794903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 *In Character* A thought occured to me recently while going over some old reports; perhaps Ciaphas Cain, being the most beloved and heroic soldier living in the Imperium, is Emperor's Heir? I should make an effort to discuss the possibility with him at some time in the future... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1795009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Chengar Qordath Posted Today, 08:05 PM *In Character* A thought occured to me recently while going over some old reports; perhaps Ciaphas Cain, being the most beloved and heroic soldier living in the Imperium, is Emperor's Heir? I should make an effort to discuss the possibility with him at some time in the future... *In character* Ciaphas Cain as this Avatar of the Emperor thing? *Mutters to self whilst writing* Add to list of targets . . . . Commissar . . . Ciaphas . . . Cain. *Exits stage left* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1795043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Chengar Qordath Posted Today, 08:05 PM *In Character* A thought occured to me recently while going over some old reports; perhaps Ciaphas Cain, being the most beloved and heroic soldier living in the Imperium, is Emperor's Heir? I should make an effort to discuss the possibility with him at some time in the future... *In character* Ciaphas Cain as this Avatar of the Emperor thing? *Mutters to self whilst writing* Add to list of targets . . . . Commissar . . . Ciaphas . . . Cain. *Exits stage left* *IC* Are you sure you want to add the bravest, most dedicated and loyal hero in the entire Imperium of Man onto your enemies list Inquisitor Tyrak? Obviously your self-righteous short-sightedness has addled your mind if you are so eager to antagonize one of the Imperium's greatest heroes (and that's not to mentions what would happen if he is the heir). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1795096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Chengar Qordath Posted Today, 08:49 PM *IC* Are you sure you want to add the bravest, most dedicated and loyal hero in the entire Imperium of Man onto your enemies list Inquisitor Tyrak? Obviously your self-righteous short-sightedness has addled your mind if you are so eager to antagonize one of the Imperium's greatest heroes (and that's not to mentions what would happen if he is the heir). Most certainly. Anyone who is to be raised to the mantle of "hero" requires an investigation first. Just look at the example of Icarael and the revered Inquisitor Karamazov. It does not do to put the corrupt on a pedestal, accidentally or otherwise. There are no problems over whether he is an "heir" or not - the Emperor is not dead, he is still with us and guides us, the only ones who could claim to be his heirs are his genetic sons, the Primarchs. +EDIT+ Grammar correction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1795128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 *In character* As the esteemed inquisitor lord Tyrak says, the only true heirs to the Emperor are the primarchs, and we all know what happened there, and now you want another one? I'm sorry lord Basavriuk, but your idea seems strange to me, you wish the death of our God-Emperor, and you admit to it in the company of other inquisitors? As for this Ciaphas Cain man, where can I find him? I wish, like lord Tyrak, to test his purity. Inquisitor Gordo Levinski. *Out of character* I'm never sure on what title an inquisitor would use for another inquisitor, and should titles be capitalised? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1795151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunch Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I'm sorry lord Basavriuk, but your idea seems strange to me, you wish the death of our God-Emperor, and you admit to it in the company of other inquisitors? **IC** The death of the God-Emperor? Such a concept seems impossible. The Emperor could not die for he has not yet lived - the worn husk atop that throne in Terra has long since passed its use, and the imperium's refusal to let him die is all but stopping the True Coming. For the true Emperor of Mankind, I would never wish death. And in the company of inquisitors? Hardly. Maybe in name alone, but what I see before me is a pack of rabid dogs willing to believe the lies the Ministorum has fed to you piecemeal. Verus Imperator Adventum! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1795180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 *In character* Rabid dogs believing the "lies" of the ministorum? Interesting that you would say that when it seems clear to me that you yourself have been influenced by the lies of the Great Schemer. Never lived? Tell me inquisitor, what evidence do you have to back up your claim? Inquisitor Gordo Levinski. *Out of character* I forgot to say in my previous post, but welcome to the B&C shunch :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/6/#findComment-1795213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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