Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen Posted Today, 10:48 PM (IC) Inquisitor Lady Nicole Pyykkönen chuckles as she communicates with her Interrogator Kenneth McCormick via telepathy. "Kenneth, contact the Admiral aboard the Cavalier and explain that our departure will be delayed. This should prove interesting." *In character* *Looks curiously at the communications monitor* *Out of character* The will prove invaluable for me, being a Law Student. Finally, some practice on a live target! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen Posted Today, 10:48 PM (IC) Inquisitor Lady Nicole Pyykkönen chuckles as she communicates with her Interrogator Kenneth McCormick via telepathy. "Kenneth, contact the Admiral aboard the Cavalier and explain that our departure will be delayed. This should prove interesting." *In character* *Looks curiously at the communications monitor* (OOC) Too many communications can be intercepted... however her psychic abilities she trusts :P Save the communicators for when it doesn't matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunch Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 **IC** To the charges leveled against me, wholly incriminating as they are, I offer only one defense: my creed. Declare me Diabolus for these acts and you lay that same charge to every Horusian and follower of my philosophy amongst us. On a personal note, I have, as I have said, only ever fought in the defense of the God-Emperor and his people. If that makes me a heretic, then I shall truly see what this Imperium is made of. Even if I am cast from this order, may the men and the women of the Imperium know I will always defend them. **OOC** Hey, the defense opening statement isn't as scant as you think. You're accusing an the majority of a factional division on these charges. The will prove invaluable for me, being a Law Student. Finally, some practice on a live target! Well, I would think that about does it for me. :D I think there should be some sort of medal for "Fastest Excommunicated" or something.. Shee, mom would be proud... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen Posted Today, 10:53 PM OOC) Too many communications can be intercepted... however her psychic abilities she trusts Save the communicators for when it doesn't matter. *Out of character* I meant the communication to the Admiral, so obviously Tyrak doesn't know the reason for an unknown person(s) to be waiting. Telepathic though he might be, any competent telepath can shield their communiques from prying minds. Ok, back to work . . *In character* The Horusian philosophy is that another being like the Great Betrayer Horus, once-Warmaster of the Great Crusade, could be found or created and used to unify Mankind for the better instead of enslaving it to Chaos, is this correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunch Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 **IC** The Horusian philosophy is that another being like the Great Betrayer Horus, once-Warmaster of the Great Crusade, could be found or created and used to unify Mankind for the better instead of enslaving it to Chaos, is this correct? In its essentials, yes. Some believe that this being would fill the role of Horus Pre-Heresy. That is to say, Warmaster and proxy to the Emperor. Others, such as myself, seek a being different from the Avatar-Emperor to take his place entirely and unify humanity in a way he never did. Obviously this is open to interpretation on whom, but we all vary in individual beliefs. **OOC** It may come out that I and my immediate followers (several lower-ranked inquisitors and another Lord I have created myself) are not Horusians at all, as I may have taken the philosophy too far and changed it's original meaning. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 *in character* Shunch Posted Today, 11:08 PM Others, such as myself, seek a being different from the Avatar-Emperor to take his place entirely and unify humanity in a way he never did. How interesting. It seems you have just declared yourself to be guilty of the charges of denying the divinity of the God-Emperor and blasphemy against the Emperor. It seems prudent to focus on these charges first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunch Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 **IC** How interesting. It seems you have just declared yourself to be guilty of the charges of denying the divinity of the God-Emperor and blasphemy against the Emperor. It seems prudent to focus on these charges first. I have never denied voicing the beliefs that co-inside with that comment. Once, again, my only defense is my creed. Our definition of where the Emperor of Mankind lies is where our differences are. I believe that His power has long since passed from the body atop the Golden Throne, and another being must be located or created, housing the Divine power of the God-Emperor. As long as we stifle these attempts, the Imperium will fail and Mankind will stagnate. **OOC** I think we might want to re-consider how to handle this. Holding the 'argument' over this thread is probably dissuading other people from posting here. This is the Inquisitorial Factions thread, not the Trial of Basavriuk thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 *In character* For the third and final time, do you deny the divinity of the God-Emperor, that is the being who sits immobile upon the support mechanisms of the Golden Throne in the Imperial Palace on Holy Terra? If I do not recieve a straight answer the standard procedure is to assume guilt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunch Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 **IC** I do not deny Him. I believe that, at one point, the being atop the Throne on Terra housed the spirit of the Emperor to serve as a leader for Mankind. I also believe that he eventually failed at that task. His crippled body still holds on to the spirit of the Emperor, though it is unable to utilize it for the betterment of Mankind. By refusing to allow that body to die, we are not allowing the Emperor to re-manifest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 *in character* Shunch Posted Today, 11:42 PM I believe that, at one point, the being atop the Throne on Terra housed the spirit of the Emperor to serve as a leader for Mankind. "At one point"! Accepting past divinity of the Emperor will not save you from the crime of denying his divinity now, 'Inquisitor'. It is all too clear what heresy you are hiding. *Out of character* Unfortunately the prosecution will have to sign off for the time being to get some sleep. I will be back in the morning! ^_^ **OOC**Hey, the defense opening statement isn't as scant as you think. You're accusing an the majority of a factional division on these charges. Spot on. Unfortunately the vast majority of the Inquisition is Puritan. So I'm accusing the majority of a minority. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 (IC) Nicole quirked an eyebrow and smiled unexpectedly. "That is, I believe, within the parameters of the question you asked, Tyrak. He has not denied that the being known as the God-Emperor of Mankind is divine, he has merely questioned the current physical location of said being. Being that we cannot beyond all doubt demonstrate that the Emperor still resides within the Golden Throne short of opening it, a set of conditions I do NOT advise undertaking, it is theoretically possible that the Emperor by his divine and psychic power could have healed and moved himself. Who are we to say what acts he may accomplish?" She paused for a moment, then continued. "And before you conclude that I am somehow defending this heretic or denying his crimes, please stop and reconsider. I believe the crimes of trafficking with creatures of the Warp are fairly self evident and obviously heretical. Just as the members of the Adeptus Astartes practice slightly altered but acceptible forms of the Imperial Creed, as do other planets and organizations within the Imperium, he Has acknowledged the Emperor's Divine nature. I believe we can move on from this point. If he is indeed guilty of unlicensed and ill advised daemon trafficking the other charges become moot." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 *In character* Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen Posted Today, 11:51 PM (IC) <some defences> If you wish to speak on behalf of the defence, you require the defendant's permission. The same goes for the prosecution. Strike those objections from the record! *out of character* Remember in-character: you can't just butt in on a Inquisition trial. ^_^ Now I'm really going to bed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 (OOC) Except you forget that as a leading member of the Ordo Hereticus, she is an Inquisitor herself. Since you are undertaking these activities in a conclave she is privy to, she is fulfilling her duty as Inquisitor to monitor the trial. Such things are typically done with multiple Inquisitors interrogating and asking questions anyway ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunch Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 **IC** My, my! The Inquisition has not fallen as far as I may have thought! There are some yet that will see the sense in my creed. My humblest thanks, sister. On the matter of warp trafficking and cavorting with daemons, I will attend these charges when Tyrak returns on the morrow. Even if I fail, I will at least know my servants may continue on, uninhibited. **OOC** Yeah, totally giving my permission to Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen to attest to my defense. Yes, its because I was failing miserably. I do not think Basavriuk will escape the additional charges however. Even if he escapes execution, I'll likely need to introduce another of my Inquisitors to stay within the discussion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorTynain Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Inquisitor Tynain : Ordo Maellus, Thorian/Monodminant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 *In Character* *Donald takes out a steel flask, unscrews the cap and takes a swig.* By the Emperor himself, have I got a headache. Gentlemen, do you hear us bicker like school children, indeed it would seem like our mixture of beliefs sounds like a schoolyard version of 'My dad can be up your dad.' Serously we let ourselves become too divided with this bickering. we really need to develop some common ground and put forth a more unified frond to defeat our enemies and further unite the Imperiam. We mush remember that We alone can command and bring together the many piece of the Emperor's Might. If we are going to fling charges around the room I am sure that each of us can find something that our view point is against the Emperor in some manner according to our varied beliefs. I certien that if there were Chaos being here that have a good laugh at our dividedness. Indeed this borders on Madness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1796881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfen Lord Leo Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 OOC:Madness? This is WARHAMMER (sorry, couldnt resist) IC, Inquisitor William: If my memory serves well, a charge against a fellow Inquisitor can only be carried out by a decision made by several correct? I see the traitor amongst our mdst has announced his chaotic asccociation, by the power invested with me, I second the charges made by Tyrak. And though you're claim of the Emperor is viewed by many of both Thorian and Horusian, the difference is that you, warpiss, use the powers of chaos to try and achieve his resurrection, where as Thorian's such as I do not. Pray that I do not find you, for if I do then I will be the deliverer of you're fate, heretic. As to our division, Inquisitor Mallard, if we are to be in unity, those who ascociate with chaos must first be rooted out, lest they divide us first. Inquisitor William. OOC:Wow, most moody piece I've ever written. Inquisitor William isn't usually this quick to accuse, but seeing as, being a Thorian, he hates Horusians. No insultis ment towards any real people. This is a good arguement though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 *In character* Let it be entered into the record that Inquisitor Pyykkonen is appointed to the defence, and that Inquisitor William is appointed to the prosecution. Let it also be noted that at the request of the defence, the charges relating to warpcraft are to be dealt with first. Inquisitor Basavriuk, you stand accused of using prohibited methods and weaponry, and consorting with daemons. The evidence is taken from your own mouth: Shunch, Posted November 3rd, 11:11 PM Chaos itself is infinite power. The Avatar-Emperor, for all his failings, recognized this. The warp is a weapon our foes use against us, but we are somehow blind enough to not harness it against them. Shunch, Posted November 4th, 09:52 PM If the fashion I see most fit to destroy the agents of Chaos is to turn their own weapons upon them, I shall. I am not the first to come to this conclusion, and no amount of praying to your Avatar-Emperor will make me the last. And do not mistake my use of daemons as weapons as an association to their agenda. A daemon is an abominable being, and it is only when the last heretic, traitor, and affront to the God-Emperor has been burned that I will turn my guns upon my own arcane tools. How do you explain this? *Out of character* Inquisitor Tynain, You need to come down on one side of the fence, whether its Thorian, Monodominant, or a combination of the two which differs so much from the originals that its classed as Other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 *IC* Unity is only strength so long as all within the union are worthy of trust and loyal to the union; the question before us is whether Inquisitor Basavriuk is loyal to the Imperium and it's laws or if he has violated those laws. It is a question which I for one would like to see answered; his views on the state of the Emperor, while unusual and frankly disturbing to more conventional inquisitors, might not quite rise to the level of outright heresy. His dealings with denizens of the Warp, on the other hand, bear further investigation and discussion, and may well be of such severity that excommunication and execution are warranted. I also support the charges proffered by Inquisitor Tyrak, as I feel this matter should be fully and vigorously scrutinized and debated. As a Horusian, I would also like to clarify that Basavriuk's views are not shared by all members of the Horusians, nor should his actions reflect upon the movement as a whole. While we do believe that the Imperium is in need of a strong, unifying figure it is not inherent in the Horusian philosophy that the Emperor upon the Golden Throne is not divine, nor is consorting with Daemons a part of our beliefs. If Basavriuk is guilty of these charges it is a result of his own personal pervesions, and not caused by or related to his membership within the Horusians. *OOC* It sppears that my character is, to a degree, stabbing a fellow Horusian in the back because she's worried that if he's convicted it will make all Horusians look bad. It was unavoidable after his "if I'm a hereitc all Horusians are heretics" defense. Inquisitorial politics can be a nasty business. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 *In character* Lord Tyrak, with your permission I would say this: Brothers and sisters of the inquisition, I must point out that Inquisitor Baravsiuk has admitted to the use of daemonhosts, there can be no argument, he must be excommunicated at the very least, execution may be neccessary. We cannot allow his taint to spread, we must find these followers he claims to have and bring them to account for their actions as well. Inquisitor Gordo Levinski. *Out of character* While I'm here, I feel like mentioning my other inquisitor, for tyraks list in the first post. Inquisitor Lady Alexis McKayla, ordo malleus, amalathian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 *in character* Regardless of Baravsiuk's apparent and obvious guilt, as a member of the Inquisition he is granted the right to a full trial. As yet, however, he has yet to respond to these allegations, and if this continues then his guilt will be presumed. Thank you for the clarification, Lady Kolbe. *Out of character* Backstabbing, eh? Still, its not like Tyrak's going to notice, he's got more pressing matters at hand. Oh, and Shunch, should Baravsiuk be found guilty, I will leave an opening for him to make a suitably dramatic escape, should you wish to write this little episode into his backstory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 *In Character* I will remind all that Words are the most Manipulated force in the universe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (OOC) I find the irony of an upright Thorian being requested to defend an admitted Horusian delicious. The only reason she spoke up about the Emperor portion is because she feels persecution of people over their interpretation of the Emperor is Divine would cause many problems, as she herself feels he also left his mortal shell as well. She'd rather Basavriuk burn for use of Daemonhosts at all, but she'll attempt to defend him all the same, as it is part of duty. (IC) Nicole rises and moves to the center of the gathered Inquisitors before addressing the group as a whole. "Very well, if my assistance is requested I shall attempt to defend the actions of the accused. Let all bear witness to the fact that although I will attempt to defend his actions as part of the Defense, I do not take part in them, condone them, or believe them to be appropriate actions in my own personal and professional opinion." She then turns to address Inquisitor Tyrak directly. "Let us with the following quote: Shunch, Posted November 3rd, 11:11 PM Chaos itself is infinite power. The Avatar-Emperor, for all his failings, recognized this. The warp is a weapon our foes use against us, but we are somehow blind enough to not harness it against them. "This quote does not actually admit to anything. The Prosecution forgets that he has not stated within this phrase anything about whether he has or has not used the powers of the Warp beyond psychic ability that many of us possess. Claiming that the Warp is a weapon used by our foes is simply an admission of a fact already known to us. Suggesting that we should use it against the enemy is not the same as actually using it. The Defense fails to see how suggesting an alternative to a current course of action should be equated with having previously performed said alternative. "The Defense shall now turn to the second quote provided by the Prosecution." Shunch, Posted November 4th, 09:52 PM If the fashion I see most fit to destroy the agents of Chaos is to turn their own weapons upon them, I shall. I am not the first to come to this conclusion, and no amount of praying to your Avatar-Emperor will make me the last. And do not mistake my use of daemons as weapons as an association to their agenda. A daemon is an abominable being, and it is only when the last heretic, traitor, and affront to the God-Emperor has been burned that I will turn my guns upon my own arcane tools. "The Defense contends that this statement is a theoretical argument, centered around the word "If." The Accused did state that if the fashion he saw was to turn their own weapons against them he would, however he did not say if he truly agreed that was the best course of action. Furthermore, can the Prosecution prove that the theoretical use of daemons was the Accused crafting Daemonhosts himself? Or was he in fact refering to turning the Daemonhosts of heretical powers against their crafters before summarily destroying them as part of his performance of his duties? He has clearly admited to believing daemonkind to be abominations all worthy of summary execution, and that he is intent on destroying any affront to the God-Emperor of Mankind, may his name be praised. "Short of actually experiencing and witnessing his use of Daemonhosts first hand in the field or providing a witness who has, charges based soley upon hearsay cannot actually be proven." (OOC) Yeah.. she'd so much rather simply turn her bolter-stake crossbow and forcesword upon the daemon wielding heretic herself :huh: Edit: No, I actually hold an Economics degree, I simply was friends with a philosophy major so I have a little bit of practice in arguments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 *In character* Lady Nicole, I would point out this quote from Inquisitor Baravsiuk. And do not mistake my use of daemons as weapons as an association to their agenda. Admittedly, he claims he does not serve them or agree with their agendas, an admirable fact, however, it seems to me this is a clear admission to having used them in the past, or possibly continuing to use them to this day, would you not agree? *out of character* Since this seems to have turned in to roleplay where we're all sitting next to each other rather than talking over astropathic communiques or whatever, I think I'll stop signing 'my' name. Shunch, feel free to make up another inquisitor, the more the merrier ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 (IC) Nicole chuckles as she addresses Gordo, "Naturally the Defense disagrees, being that it was stated that the entire quote can quite easily be explained as a theoretical argument. Although daemonkind as we understand them are creatures of the Warp, cannot creatures be weapons as much as the Assassins of the Imperium are living weapons? Are not the Adeptus Astartes living weapons, embodiments of the Emperor's will? Therefore the Defense points out that by considering this the theoretical argument of a possible use of a weapon of Chaos against Chaos would include turning someone elses daemonhost against themselves, technically a use of a daemonhost, only until the daemonhosts creator was destroyed then progressing to destroying the daemonhost itself. Since the quote hinges upon the use of a theoretical "if" it does not imply concretely that the Accused has used daemonhosts in actuality." (OOC) She's actually hoping she gets out argued so she can help hunt down the Accused during the normal course of her duties should she be available at the moment in time ^_^ Unfortunately her duty is to argue to the best of her ability. Edit: Shunch, if it were me I'd continue using this same Inquisitor, just have him escape the Conclave at the presented opportunity and run Renegade. It'd be fun! ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152182-inquisitorial-factions-now-with-an-inquisitorial-census/page/8/#findComment-1797578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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