Arianod Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I've just had a big surprise: my Iron Crusaders are actually canon! A chapter with that name appears on a map in the 5th edition Codex, and there is even a Lexicanum page for it ( http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iron_Crusaders#.TuNYRmMkDzs ) although it gives no information. Now, what should I do? O_o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2941402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I've just had a big surprise: my Iron Crusaders are actually canon! A chapter with that name appears on a map in the 5th edition Codex, and there is even a Lexicanum page for it ( http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iron_Crusaders#.TuNYRmMkDzs ) although it gives no information. Now, what should I do? O_o Well, you can decide that your Chapter is what the canon Chapter might be, retaining the name. Alternately, you might decide to change the Chapter name to something that isn't canon. If you decide on the former, Phil has indicated that he plans on expanding the project to allow for homegrown variants on Chapters (he'll have to respond with the details on that - I can't speak authoritatively on his behalf). If you choose the latter, your DIY Chapter may be included in the project as yours en toto. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2941424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Cambrius Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Hello there Index Astartes: Knight Encarmine is ready for submission > Link There is only one small thing if you can help me with for the thing to be complete. My image converting skills are nonexistant so could you please add a White Ask and thou shalt receive Brother. :lol: Unfortunately the black purity seal was removed so I could add the symbols on, if you want it to be reattached I'll see if I can fix that. Cambrius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2941451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrvat Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Thank you brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2941470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianod Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I've just had a big surprise: my Iron Crusaders are actually canon! A chapter with that name appears on a map in the 5th edition Codex, and there is even a Lexicanum page for it ( http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iron_Crusaders#.TuNYRmMkDzs ) although it gives no information. Now, what should I do? O_o Well, you can decide that your Chapter is what the canon Chapter might be, retaining the name. Alternately, you might decide to change the Chapter name to something that isn't canon. If you decide on the former, Phil has indicated that he plans on expanding the project to allow for homegrown variants on Chapters (he'll have to respond with the details on that - I can't speak authoritatively on his behalf). If you choose the latter, your DIY Chapter may be included in the project as yours en toto. Â Thanks for your counsel, brother. I think I'll take the first option, since there's hardly any official background on the Iron Crusaders. The Lexicanum page only says that they're a fleet-based chapter; it won't be much trouble, changing the backstory I had written for them to account for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2941573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip S Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 @ Arianod - I double checked and the Iron Crusaders are already in the gallery. Your options are pretty much as Brother Tyler laid out. I'll save a copy of your chapter for the future update, but when that will come about is anyone's guess (probably after I get the Prime List up to 1,000). Â @ Hrvat - I'll add the Knights Encarmine to the next update (to double check - it is 'Knights Encarmine' not 'Knight Encarmine'?) Â @ Brother Cambrius - sterling work (as always!). Thank you :jaw: Â @ Brother Tyler - thanks for your assistance ^_^ Â Philip Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2941897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrvat Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 @ Hrvat - I'll add the Knights Encarmine to the next update (to double check - it is 'Knights Encarmine' not 'Knight Encarmine'?) Philip  Your are correct it is Knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2941925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianod Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 @ Arianod - I double checked and the Iron Crusaders are already in the gallery. Your options are pretty much as Brother Tyler laid out. I'll save a copy of your chapter for the future update, but when that will come about is anyone's guess (probably after I get the Prime List up to 1,000). Â O.K.! As you said, the chapter is already in the gallery, but without any pictures associated to it. So, when I've finished and published my IA for the Iron Crusaders, the link for it and my picture can go there. Am I right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2942987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip S Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 @ Arianod - all the canon chapters without an image are put in as blanks. At a later date I'll add some asterisks after the canon chapter's name that will link to fan made versions. When this feature is added I can include a link to the Iron Crusaders via one of these asterisk. Â Philip Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2945472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianod Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 @ Philip S -All right. I'll have the IA ready this weekend! <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2945888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorslion Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Welcome the Righteous Angels!  http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/Archangel-1.jpg  http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=243667 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2946220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine5 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I've made some changes to the Praetorian Guard. I hope the fluff isnt to bad. I know I'm not much of a writter.  http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm/bpe=181C1D&bpj=19553C&bp=181C1D&bpc=181C1D&hdt=181C1D&hdm=181C1D&hdl=181C1D&ey=EFB736&er=181C1D&pi=181C1D&nk=181C1D&ch=181C1D&eg=EFB736&sk=EED5AC&abs=181C1D&bt=181C1D&cod=181C1D&ull=181C1D&lk=181C1D&lll=181C1D&lft=181C1D&url=181C1D&rk=181C1D&lrl=181C1D&rft=181C1D&slt=19553C&sli=181C1D&srt=19553C&sri=181C1D&ula=181C1D&lel=181C1D&lla=181C1D&lw=181C1D&lh=181C1D&ura=181C1D&rel=181C1D&rla=181C1D&rw=181C1D&rh=181C1D&bg=&rb=19553C&gr=181C1D&wg=true&lightshade=true&mk8=true&darkangelpad=DBDED7&ti=DBDED7&lkg3=DBDED7&rkg2=DBDED7&blt=181C1D&/spacemarine.jpg  http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...;showentry=7656  I can't wait to see them join the ranks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2946708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorslion Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 How about Wandering1's Iron Cranes?  http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/ironcranespacemarinecopy.jpg  Link: http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/...1LoU_004_A.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2949867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorslion Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) New Canon chapters not in the list:  Alessio Cavatore's Crimson Furies  http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/crimsonfuries.jpg  US White Dwarf #324 Page 86  I could not find a lexicanum page for them.  Crimson Praetorians  http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/Crimsonpraetorian-1.jpg  White Dwarf #310 Page # 143  No Lexicanum page found. Edited December 27, 2011 by emperorslion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2952036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorslion Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Three more Canon chapters:  Dragonslayers http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/Dragonslayer.jpg  Shadow Hawks http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/ShadowHawkcopy.jpg  Reference for both: White Dwarf # 310 Page 85  Untouchables http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/untouchables.jpg  White Dwarf #311 Page 56 Edited December 28, 2011 by emperorslion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2952744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip S Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 @ Marine5 - I'll use your new IA when I next update. Out of interest, how stable is the new IA, specifically the link? Is your IA a continuous WIP, and if so are you going to update that IA page, rather than create new ones? It's easier for me if you have one page I can link to that has the current IA in all it glory. Â @ emperorslion - nice finds, and sterling work! I'll add them all in the next update. I take it; that along with the Crimson Furies and Crimson Praetorians, that the Dragonslayers, Shadow Hawks, and Untouchables are also not found on the Lexicanum? Â If you have the White Dwarfs, could you source me a quote for each? I like to have a quote for my Obscure Chapters page ;) Â Philip Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2952851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorslion Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Yeah, no Lexi. No quotes either. I went back to see if there were anything usable, but the Dragonslayers, and Shadow Hawks were just listed as ways to use the Black Templar sprue. The Untouchables were part of a report on team tournaments as part of an inquisition force. Â The Crimson Furies had the Traits : no mercy, no Respite; We stand alone. I think this makes an awesome battlecry. A Crimson Praetorian Sgt. was featured as a way to do a simple conversion to make a dynamic pose. When GW was still selling individual bits by mail order. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2953149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Cambrius Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I have finally found after trawling through my White Dwarf magazines another Obscure Chapter from the December 2008 WD from the UK regarding the Space Marines' Liber Apocalyptica article on page 38. As said within: Â During the Scouring of Hexdragon XXIV in 345.M38 a situation arose where all three of these occurred in a single battle. Elements of the newly arrived Iron Shield Chapter had suffered severe casualties amongst their Assault Marines during the assault of the Despot of Hexdragon's battle fortress. With all members of the Chapter's Battle Companies fully engaged, Commander Shakirax ordered the troops of the 10th Scout Company be issued with jump packs, so that they could fulfil the role instead. Despite suffering casualties in excess of 90%, the Scouts overwhelmed the defenders of the Obsidian Tower, and the fortress fell. Â Cambrius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2956426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip S Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) @Hrvat - seems your chapter has changed its name from 'Knights Encarmine' to 'Angels of Malediction'? Â @Marine5 - your Praetorian Guard chapter has been added. If you update your chapter please use the same page B) Â @emperorslion - the Iron Cranes, Crimson Furies, Crimson Praetorians, Dragonslayers, and Untouchables have been added to the project. The Shadow Hawks were already listed but I used your image to updated them :) Thank you for tracking these down. Since hitting the 1,000 mark new DIYs need a full IA to get in, so I'll wait until your have one for the 'Righteous Angels' before adding them. Â @Brother Cambrius - thanks. I've added the Iron Shield chapter to the project. Â Philip Edited January 5, 2012 by Philip S Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2959354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Cambrius Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 @Brother Cambrius - thanks. I've added the Iron Shield chapter to the project. Â Cheers Philip. I don't think you'd believe me if I had said how long I've had that chapter on my mind since you started looking for obscure Chapters. B) :) Â Cambrius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2959363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip S Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Do you have any others leaking lurking in the back of your mind? I'm always looking for new ones! We have quite a few of them now B)  Philip  Edit: spelling. Edited January 11, 2012 by Philip S Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2959365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Cambrius Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Do you have any others leaking in the back of your mind? I'm always looking for new ones! We have quite a few of them now :lol: Philip  I cannot think of any, I think everyone's added the others on my mind...but I do have a large number of White Dwarf magazines from the early 90s...When I one day go through them all I'm sure there will be plenty new obscure chapters discovered. :lol:  Cambrius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2959889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip S Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 I hope so! Â +++ Â Project update request I've changed the Emperor's Eagles from MIA to Canon! This 'canon' version was submitted by Inquisitor S over on my Warseer thread. Apparently it was in White Dwarf 74 French edition that came out in June 2000. As the project accepts any chapter appearing in a White Dwarf as 'canon', it seems only fair to include the French version. Inquisitor S mentions that a lot of White Dwarf articles are translations, so I'm wondering if the Emperor's Eagles turned up in any of the English language editions (USA/ UK)? Â If you have a copy of White Dwarf from June 2000 could you check and see if you can find the Emperor's Eagles? (You'll have to go by the date not the number, as the numbers do not match up across different language editions) Â Whatever you find please post it here, and I'll update the Obscure Chapter's Page. Â Philip Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2967068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorslion Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/...jsp?aId=9600100  Alternate or new color scheme for the Raptors? http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/Snapbucket/04C11C2C.jpg  http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/jstogie1/Snapbucket/94CD01CE.jpg Edited January 15, 2012 by emperorslion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2967831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorslion Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Ok, I dug around a bit more and found this was the original color scheme from rogue trader. Interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/178222-1000-chapter-gallery-project/page/27/#findComment-2967911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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