Ferrus Manus Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I'm not much of a painter so feel free to ignore this but I think your NMM needs more contrast. By which I mean, I don't think our starting with a dark enough base for the metal and your not going through enough stages to make it flow better. At the moment it looks a bit like blocked painting. Sorry, that sounds a bit harsh. Maybe it just cause I'm jealous of your sculpting skills. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2292761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 What you have here are a buncha feral decendants of the aborted Sister of Battle raid on the Space Wolves Fenris Monastery that snuck in and stole a buncha termy suits... Sneaky girls, hehe. Love the tribal tattoos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2292996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I actually kind of dig the nmm. It seems like a more stylized take on the technique. I just figured it was to give them all an animated look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2293006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Just out of interest; will you be doing another one of these humour armies? I'd go for something else to make Marine Fluff Die-Hards grit their teeth. Like Ork Marines. FEMALE Ork Marines from a Lost Legion led by Primarch Batman! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2293012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 *grinds teeth down to gums at the above post* :D: :D :P ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2293195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasche Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 holy molly....thats pretty neat... ill be keeping up with your posting, its very inspiring i had the thought of doing a female army before...but ill probably only end up converting 1 model which would be my HQ to be a chick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2293252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Just out of interest; will you be doing another one of these humour armies? I'd go for something else to make Marine Fluff Die-Hards grit their teeth. Like Ork Marines. FEMALE Ork Marines from a Lost Legion led by Primarch Batman! ...hey! Quit looking at my desk! (Well, no, the ork-marines are an unlikely project. However, an army of primitive Battle Sisters leading crazed religious fanatics on a new crusade for the Emprah, all powered by the Ork Codex, is waiting in the wings...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2293731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 To Ferrus Mannus: Some of the girls didn't get the final coat of Dark Purple Ink Wash on the NMM gold. I think that it came out good, but like you agree with it needing more contrast. The blocky painting the the style I paint in. For better or worse lol. To Emperor's Scourge: Thanks! I do have a very "Splashy/Animated" painting style that I tried to keep with these girls, and that I have all the time. Sometimes it can be a bit...messy. If uncontrolled. But I tend to use a brush with a very fine point and make dynamic strokes with it, I don't know it's the same way I would ink something with a brush. As for Next Army, well this is all right now. I still have 6 months worth escalation league to play through. As far as that and the tourney this weekend... I came in 5th for the tourney, won best painted, got all my extra objective/conversion/painting points for the month. So, out of a possible 18pts for this first month I have 16. So the next units coming down the pipe for my army are WOLF SCOUTS! Or more accurately OMG ;) DID THEY COME FROM WOLF SCOUTS!? I'm planning out the points and unit now. Right Now my next 300pts of Girl Wolves will be: 6 Wolf scouts, all with Melted Bowmbz. 1 w/ meltagun 2/powerweapons 1 w/mark of the wolfin 1 wolf gaurd (for the wolf scouts) Thunder Hammer, Frostblade, Meltabombz ( :D :D ) 1 Lone Wolf, With some sick shizznit. (if there's points) Termination Armor for my Runepriest (just because she needs that invulnerable.) Then any extra points will go to more scouts (if I can make them in this month) or extra doodaads for the termies, or wolf priest. The biggest problem for the month will be the scout squad, since I honestly would take 10, split into squads of 5, but I don't know if I have to the time to hand make 10 scouts, so I may have to scrimp and steel and order bitz to get this done within the time limit. I've already started 3 scouts, so there will be pics of them up soon-ish. :D Comments, Concerns, Suggestions for points sinks or scout loadouts. Accepted! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2295216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotgunFacelift Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Looking forward to see what you do with the Lone Wolf... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2295286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine77 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I would love to see some additional close-ups of your HQs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2295675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 So I made mention A NUMBER OF TIMES, that my army's theme is that the most killingest badical wolf gaurd, will be promoted to wolf queen....er Wolf Lord, for the last 2 months of the League, as she has suitably impressed the Great Wolf to be in-command of their own forces. So here's the close ups of all my finished paintjobs (which I didn't have time to post before) and some totals (points worth of dead enemies) for each Wolf Girlminator. Wolf Gaurd Pack 1: The Hammer's Bite http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/JanetRockmaw.jpg Janet Rockmaw: 117pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Icepunch.jpg Helena Icepunch: 241 pts ( Top Kills: Hammerhead, Vidicator) http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/ClaudiaStarclaw.jpg Claudia Starclaw: 259pts (Top Kills: Exocist, Rhino) http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Moonpelt.jpg Snarla Moonpelt: 91pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Razorback.jpg Hestia Razorback: 51pts Wolf Gaurd Pack 2: Redmaw's Revenge http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Carcasskill.jpg Hildegaurd Carcasskill: 220pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Icewrath.jpg Olga "The Doomed" Icewrath: 165pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Ingridbloodhowl.jpg Ingrid Bloodhowl: 309 pts (Top Kills: Librarian, Tau Commander) http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Iceflank.jpg Jeska Iceflank: 95pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/SlashaBoneshread.jpg Slasha Boneshread: 224pts Wolf Gaurd Pack 3: Sisters of Thunder http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/DhaliaDeathwolf.jpg Dhalia Deathwolf: 113pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Jackaljaw.jpg Killia Jackaljaw: 101 pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/GrimaldaStormheart.jpg Grimalda Stormheart: 65pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Sorrowfang.jpg Ghidora Sorrowfang: 82 pts http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Halfgrin.jpg Fiercia Halfgrin: 60pts (Killed in action every battle, 2 times in Close combat against the same dreadnought. Vow: Fiercia WILL destroy this dread by the end of the league). http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Runepriest1.jpg http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/ginocoolowski/Finishedwoofz/Runepriest2.jpg Kajara Rockeye: 126pts So there they all are, in the top three spots after the first month, are Ingrid Bloodhowl 309pts Claudia Starclaw: 259pts Helena Icepunch: 241 pts More updates later this week, including Lone Wolf, and Wolf Scouts! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2296070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Some very scary looking faces there. But I suppose they are barbarians. Lots of opportunities to get a mace to the face. Another complaint is the lack of belly buttons, and nipples on the Rune Priest. Painting is pretty good though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2296163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 Some very scary looking faces there. But I suppose they are barbarians. Lots of opportunities to get a mace to the face. Another complaint is the lack of belly buttons, and nipples on the Rune Priest. Painting is pretty good though. You can't win them all. Faces are hard, some of them turned out well, some less so. All of them good practice. she's has a belly button, I just didn't paint it like a giant black dot. And nipples would have me her too "pornagraphic" The model, the paintjob. Nothing about it needs for it to have nipples. It was all about those tattoos. Blue and grays across cold metal and flesh. The only warm parts are her eyes, and the blade of the axe. And they are still a really cool red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2296183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Not much time to talk but, i've been working hard on some things here and there. I thought you guys may want to see. BTW, I've noticed that my old photos are all killed, thanks for looking at them so much they broke everyone :P If you want to look at them you should try this if possible. http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd126/g.../Finishedwoofz/ I can see them, but I'll have to check to see if you guys can. Either way, future updates will be happening from a different photobucket account and when I'm not up to my neck in crap, I'll change the old pics over too :P. Anyway. Onto the scoutz They Came From Behind! Finished Example http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/DSC01722.jpg http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/DSC01723.jpg http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/DSC01724.jpg Wolfen http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/DSC01729.jpg http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/DSC01730.jpg Melta Gunnerz http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/DSC01731.jpg http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/DSC01732.jpg Here's my favorite. http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/Portfolio/wolfscoutcrouch1.jpg http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae68/princessdevilette/Portfolio/wolfscoutcrouch2.jpg Well, I have the Master of The Fleet Model I wanted for my loganna conversion (Yeah, I'm too tired to make a full scupt :() so just BEWARE! The Big Bad Wolf is coming soon. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2302619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 So I'm in first place in my escalation league. I am hoping to hold out at first. More importantly I've finished almost 1000 pts worth of stuff I haven't taken pics of :lol: But that will all change on sunday. when I take pictures of the long done: -Wolf Scouts -Longanna Grimmgrrrl -Power Armored Wolf Guard And I still have one month left and planning on a big finish! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2408270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseychaoslord Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 This is Fantastic!!! Really makes me want to make some!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2408403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 I still need to add some details to it, like big wolf markings and such, but I'm done working on this one today so have a look! Landraider FlameDeemer! Designation: Hyper Combo Attack (Because it carries Ragna Bloodmane, and her entourage of horrible melee fighters) http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/DSC01973.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/DSC01972.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/DSC01971.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/DSC01970.jpg This thing reminds me a lot of Airman for some reason :D On and as an added bonus! Check out my powered armored girl marines as the secure one of my fabulous new objective markers. http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/poweredwolveswithcombo.jpg You can try to where's waldo them from this shot, but none of these girls are Ragna Redmane, i'll probably try to finish her tonight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2443801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 :lol: http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/grrlwoofs.jpg?t=1277353161 Read em and weep! 2250pts of female fury! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2444179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Hello B&C, it's been awhile. Can we talk, just you and me? ;) So I've been off doing things away from online forums, but my Girlminators have been with me. We've gone on vacation for a bit, after winning the Escalation League at the game store. YAY! :woot: In addition to some phat lootz that I won from the league the Girlminators have also gone on to win a few other local tournaments, they've been busy to say the least. But now that things have slowed down and there's a GT looming on the horizon I've gone back to look over the work I did. And... ...dang. Some of these girls were in serious need of some TLC, missing pieces, broken arms, mediocre paint jobs on a few. The heat of battle has taken their tole on the girls, not to mention I finished almost all of them in a weekend. The girls need to look their best if they are going to tip over a whole Grand Tournament. And So the: Restoration/Revision/Remaking/NEW Girlminators Project began! So the first thing to do was sort out all the pieces and upgrades I would have to put into new girls, and give the rest to the older girls. I have 2 whole boxes of wolf guard termies hanging out, and I plan to get them all up and running, and split the rest of the bitz amongst the old girls. As far as painting goes I was supremely DISAPPOINTED in the way the girls looked, the "splashy anime" painting style was holding strong on some, but really just looked like garbage on others, so the only thing to do was go over mostly everything and take my good old time to work up highlights and shade and all that. I'm also going to be going over most of the hand painted shoulder pad logos I did, the new ones will be better and ever more personal. First up, the girl whom needed the most work. Hestia Razorback http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/razorback1.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/razorback2.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/razorback3.jpg I really like her shoulder design, which is of course a Medusa face... I felt like the tribal ones fit well, but some of them were pretty wimpy and didn't embellish the model very much. I realize that medusas don't have much to do with wolves, but I figure the icons are personal iconography of the girl in question so it could really be anything. Claudia Starclaw Managed to mangle, shoot, blow up, and punch A LOT of things in the League. And I owed this model a lot of revision. http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/starclaw1.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/starclaw2.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/starclaw3.jpg That battle damage is looking a lot nicer than the old variety I had and, I especially like the "Danger" chevrons on her back. Which is going to pop up on other girls tool. Oh and that IS the starfox logo on her kneepad, but I'm pretending it's a wolf. ^_^ Slasha Bonerend! <Rawr Rawr> Slasha was my 2nd favorite Wolf Claw armed Girl, so she always seemed to be left standing when the close-combat squad took casualties, I also remember her killing Mephiston in one of the MOST frustrating games of my life. http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/bonerend1.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/bonerend2.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/bonerend3.jpg Everything on her look sooo much nicer, especially her claws. Her shoulder pad is a disctict image I remember from the large drawing of the Golden Throne by Blanche, it depicts the steps up to the throne and there are tons of flags all around. One of the flags has this guy on it, and I've always wanted to work him into something. Helena Icepunch I almost forgot to put these pictures up! Lol http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/icepunch1.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/icepunch2.jpg I'm actually still working on this girl, her fist and battle damage need a bit more highlighting, and I need to finish her cape. Her original cape was destroyed during a terrible "accident" where she was "accidentally" "dropped" on the floor. :yes: Leslie GrrrrGrrrrl The One, The Only, The Grimmest Girlest... http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/lelsiewip1.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/lelsiewip2.jpg Leslie GrrrrGrrrrl (Logan Grimnar) has one "r" in her name for each century she's been a Girlwolf. I haven't finished her repainting yet, and I have actually planned on putting another Leslie Mini together. But this is her now, and man has she had a great run so far. Just this week she blew up 5 enemy tanks, 2 AT THE SAME TIME! She's also the one cruising around in the Hyper Combo Attack now. C&C On the new paints would be GREAT! Much love! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2512374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainForge Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I like the new paint jobs much better it brings the gurls to life. Very interesting concept and execution. I would have preferred a bit more meat and potatos on the gurls myself. My favorites are the rune priestess and Leslie. I wondered how they would look if you took your time and wasnt underpressure to get them ready for a tournament. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2512399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share Posted September 17, 2010 So I'm not sure whether it's out of boredom or just for fun that I started this new girl. I was trying to make new HQs for my army and I had no clue how to differentiate them from the wolf guard. I mean they are all girls in big armor. So after some talking and brainstorming I came to the conclusion that I would make a non-spacewolves girlminator to fight along side the woofz. I never really assumed she would fit in visually but it would give me a chance to make and paint something different. So I decided she would be from the Blood Angels, but not the Blood Angles from the real universe, but from whatever alternate land that the girlwoofz came from. And so I listed the characteristics of blood angels through my mind: Perfectionist Egotists Pretty Gothy Vampires And this Is what I drew! http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/img003.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/img002.jpg She's a little loli-goth complete with parisole, and I would assume that the rest of her chapter died in some heroic fashion which is why she's chilling out with the girlwoofz. I have already started her, and I have noticed that umbrellas are the hardest thing EVER to make. I think I'll be using her as a Wolf Guard Battle Leader, with a "Frost Blade" and Power first. I should have some pictures up of the model tonight but I wanted to put these up first as a show of the process. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2514790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
army310 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 all this is stuff is bad a$$ i realy like all of this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2515643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elohimalpha Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 First off, amazing work. Really love the revision on Claudia Starclaw, looks mean! Excellent paint work on the personal heraldry too. Gotta say, for Space Wolves, there's a shocking lack of tails plastered to everything. How are the scouts coming along? Those sketches were, to me, the most compelling. Oh, and please make the BA girlminator! Just remember to give her thigh-high stilleto power-legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2515797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Famous The Punch Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 Evening folks! Thanks for all those peaks, and comments The blood angels girl is almost done. I was having a terrible weekend until I picked up the new paint I wanted from the hobby store. I was excited to put some of it on some girl minators. And I decided that now that I've built the 5 newest girls from bare plastics and green stuff, that they would need the most work. so here's the first of the first out of ten new girls. Killriza Blazetooth! http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/KillrizaBlazetooth1.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/KillrizaBlazetooth2.jpg http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx194/ginocoolowski2020/KillrizaBlazetooth3.jpg Now you may notice that in addition to some sweet blazing orange details her grey is actually a completely new grey. It's something I started for fun, then have to find a use for so I decided that if she was holding a special gun it would be ok. The process of highlighting and shading went really well on this model, and I'm glad I took my time on the new grey. I'm not going to be changing my girls to be that color, but I REALLY like how it looks, especially with the orange. Might be a good New Space Wolves Color Scheme! Feed me back! I would love that! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2516603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popkhorne Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 female space marines DO NOT EXIST within the confines, of either the warhammer or warhammer 40k universe. if your going to try and use them you might as well be playing warmachine because your sure as hell not playing warhammer. I dont know why the idea of melding anime and warhammer appeals to you so much but please for the love of god keep them separate or go play the Tau. you must understand that a bikini clad supermodel/werewolf wearing armor she could neither lift nor wield is absolutely ridiculous even within the confines of a fantasy game. It is absolute disrespect to the creators of the game and its fluff as well as the sculptors of the models to disregard, all of there meticulously written material, simply because you like anime. the fluff is something your meant to work within "bending" but not "breaking" it so blatantly as you have. In all honesty this post disgusts me. -Tirade over- anyway, your paint job is quite good, although i don't agree with your methods. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/190350-all-terminator-space-wolf-guard/page/8/#findComment-2516611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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