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@M2C: your just jealous we dont invite you to the after campaign parties at the Fang...

 

@Rain: As much as i love the way these off topic fluff, i do worry about taking them too far off topic...

 

back on topic: I would have to say Bulveye of the 13th Company. Now people are going to assume fanboy, but Bulveye shows all what is awesome of the Space Wolves and Space Marines.

 

He is loyal to the Imperium, mankind and his brothers. To those the embrace the Emperor he brings freedom and brotherhood. To those that deny the Emperor's dream of union he brings death.

 

WLK

If it is because Tankred spilled that chalice? I dont think that is acceptable grounds for punching the Castellan in the face and dipping his new tabard in red wine. You know how many Chapter Serfs died to find material with the appropriate thread count!?!?! Do you have any idea how hard it is to find Egyptian Cotton on the Western Rim!?!?! Very Hard!!! Egypt hasn't been a country for millennia!!!!

 

 

I'll stop now. LOL

:)

We will try to leave you guys some heretics so you have another reason to feast.... again.

 

Those Space Wolves always make a real meal of it .... both in fighting the Heretics AND the feast :rolleyes:

 

 

back on topic: I would have to say Bulveye of the 13th Company. Now people are going to assume fanboy, but Bulveye shows all what is awesome of the Space Wolves and Space Marines.

 

He is loyal to the Imperium, mankind and his brothers. To those the embrace the Emperor he brings freedom and brotherhood. To those that deny the Emperor's dream of union he brings death.

 

WLK

 

When I read that one, I was thinking "c'mon boy, don't you get it?!"

Since you brought it up though, wasn't Guilliman the same guy who bullied 3 of his brothers into doing what his great book said because all of them were too beaten up by the Heresy to resist?

Doesn't exactly sound like a hero to me. More like a schoolyard bully turned tyrant.

 

I know I shouldn't respond to this stuff, but I will anyway.

 

Here are the answers presented in the Ultramarines FAQ desinged to offer thought-out responses to opinons such as those expressed above:

 

Q. Did Guilliman enforce his Codex on the other Legions/Primarchs immediately following the Heresy, and even fire upon loyalist troops, almost causing a second, more destructive Heresy?

 

A. To prevent such a Heresy occurring again, Guilliman re-organised the military of the whole Imperium, not just the Space Marines. The main point of contention between the Space Marines regarding the Codex was actually only the breaking up of the Legions into Chapters. He was supported in this in particular by Corax of the Raven Guard and Khan of the White Scars and was only opposed by 3 of his brother Primarchs. As tensions increased, they came to a head when an Imperial Navy Cruiser fired upon an Imperial Fist vessel, Dorn relented and with this all the Legions split into Chapters. - Source: Index Astartes Imperial Fists and Black Templars

 

 

Q. Did Guilliman take over the Imperium, breaking up the Legions to solidify his power-base?

 

A. Guilliman became one of the first High Lords of Terra and Lord Commander of the Imperium's military, the only man to hold command the entire of it's military. (Source: Codex Ultramarines 2nd edition) Reading this single quote logically, it is obvious that Guilliman was without a doubt a very powerful man, but did not command the Imperium at all, as the myriad of other organisations came into ascendance at this time and meant a single High Lord of Terra was unable to take complete control of the Imperium so easily. (The High Lord Vandire was an exception as he held dual posts within the High Lords council, Guilliman held only one.) The perview of the post of Lord Commander of the Imperium's military was a military position only, and therefore had no effect on the Astronomican, Astra Telepathica, Navigators Houses, the Adepts of Terra, the Adeptus Mechanicus etc.

 

The Ultramarines accounted for more than half the Space Marines in the field in the time of the Scouring and they were split all over the Imperium. (Sources: Codex Space Marines/Ultramarines 2nd - 5th editions) Breaking his own Legion down would do nothing positive to a bid for power, as all it did was take away his own direct influence, particularly on a long term. Indeed, the Ultramarines do not command all the other Chapters in present day 40K, and their influence is not more than that of the Space Wolves (see 13th Black Crusade) or the Blood Angels (see 2nd war for Armaggeddon).

 

 

Q. Did Rogal Dorn, Primarch of the Imperial Fists, hate Guilliman and his Codex?

 

A. No. Following the death of the Emperor, and his internment on the Golden Throne, Dorn was inconsolable. He flew into a rage and began a ruthless pursuit of the Traitor Legions as they retreated across the Imperium. The Scouring, as this time period become known, was a period of war and strife matched only by the Horus Heresy. The Imperial Fists were merciless in their pursuit, focused solely on revenge. During this time only Guilliman had the foresight and wisdom to see that if the Imperium was neglected with the sole purpose of exacting revenge, everything the Astartes and the Emperor built would die out.

 

During the Scouring the Imperial Fists and Ultramarines worked together to expel the Iron Warriors from many different worlds, including Olympia, the homeworld of the Iron Warriors.

 

Unfortunately, Dorn's anger had blinded him to the changing times. He was absent from the meetings in which the fate of the Imperium was being decided. Seven years into the Scouring, Guilliman revealed the Codex and declared the Legions to be broken apart, but Dorn refused to comply with the Codex. Guilliman called Dorn a heretic and a rebel. It was only when the Imperial Navy fired on an Imperial Fist vessel, that Dorn saw the light. He would lead his men once more into Hell against the Iron Warriors, the last great battle of the VII Legion, and they would emerge a Chapter. The Iron Cage incident is well documented, and it is undeniable that without Guilliman putting aside his personal differences and coming to the aid of the Imperial Fists, there was a very real chance that there would be no more Imperial Fists. Dorn formed the new chapters, and retrained the remnants of his original Legion to the standards of Guilliman's Codex Astartes.

 

In spite of the infamous argument it can be assumed that Dorn and Guilliman were close, as only brothers can be. Dorn is one of only four Primarch's honored with a statue at the Fortress of Hera on Macragge. The Ultramarines and Imperial Fists Chapters have fought together in the ten millennia since the Heresy on multiple occasions, the most recent being the battle to retake Nimbosa.

I loved Torgaddon and Skraal, two non main characters who made massive impacts with me, Skraal especially, the most enjoyable parts of Battle for the abyss all involved Skraal.

 

Main characters are Tarvitz and Loken, I don't think you can read those books without growing attached to them, if you can you should clearly re-read them :unsure:

 

Skraal is the reason I started a pre-heresy World Eaters force :ph34r:

I liked Grammaticus for being a rather modern man. He was like an enlightened man from our age, wanting to do the right thing and empathizing with humanities lot... and in the end had his soul swept away by the enormity of it all.

 

Poor bugger.

 

Liked Imhotep too... well, I liked his battle with the demon.

Dorn.

 

Again this post is specifically about non primarch characters. And while we all agree that the primarchs were some of the coolest characters to ever exist i would appreciate it if members would refrain from posting them as their chosen character for THIS post. Im sure their are other posts concerning favorite primarchs. Than you :P

My question is why didn't you add not a primarch to the title or the subtitle?

 

because then this would become one of the many fluff battles between the primarchs that already occur on a hourly basis around here...this is somewhat unique in that it doesnt focus on the primarchs.

 

WLK

He asked why you didn't include the words 'not a primarch' in the title or subject, dude.

 

It's been a while since I read the first post myself. It's an easy thing to forget when one checks on this thread's last page from time to time.

 

ahh, somehow i brain farted on that.

my apologies then.

 

WLK

He featured in a Heresy book?

He's a pre-Heresy character, right?

 

But if we're talking only about HH books....

Omegon - he's awesome just because he exists.

Euphrati Keeler - she was the very first Living Saint. Uhmmm.... maybe not LS, but she performed Acts of Faith. Awesome.

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