Iron_Adam Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 In the new Grey Knights codex there is a part explaining the Terminus Decree as a document with the power to bring the Imperium to it's knees or save it in it's darkest hour. What do you think is in it? Who wrote it(emperor or malcador)? And is it indicative of their faith In humanity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 From Lexicanum; The Terminus Decree is an ancient parchment sealed within a wooden box and locked away within the Chamber of Purity on Titan making it a sacred relic to the Grey Knights Chapter. The instructions on this document is unknown and its existence is not present within any library of the Imperium. In fact, knowledge of the the Terminus Decree is known only to the Supreme Grand Masters of the Chapter who is the only person who knows how to open the box which resides in the locked tomb said to hold Malcador the Sigilite himself. The contents of this document are not to be opened by the Supreme Grand Master except for when all hope for the future of humanity is lost. This is because the secrets within this artefact are so vast that it can either destroy the Imperium or save it in its darkest hour. However, the contents of the parchment known as the Terminus Decree is unknown except that the box that holds it contains a golden seal that matches that on the Emperor's Golden Throne. Thus, it serves as the ultimate sanction for the Grey Knights to be used as a last resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Adam Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 I know, the exact same thing is written in the codex word for word, but it doesn't answer any of my proposed discussion topics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 No one knows. All that's written about it is in the codex. It's the cop out plot device that will save humanity when it seems like they're about to get swallowed up by the 'nids, chaos and all the other baddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 It smacks of the Sensei Star Child theory, when everything is dying then unplug the Emperor and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I know, the exact same thing is written in the codex word for word, but it doesn't answer any of my proposed discussion topics My bad :P I imagine that it's either some device that the Big E found (like the Golden Throne) or it's some bomb that'll cause the Galaxy to blow up/implode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornsval Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Maybe its the order to disconnect the emperor from the golden throne. It would be lame if its some doomsday thing that kills all humans. would be too much of a " if icant have em no one can" cop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000AD Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Its Sensei related....... bearing in mind the Illuminati has been gathering them in total secrecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Adam Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Disconnection from the golden throne makes the most sense IMO. Shuts off the astronomican, ending the ability for humans to use the warp, but maybe resurrecting the emperor star child theory, but I wonder why he left that to the grey knights? Surely the custodes would be more apt for this task, they are already there and first hand trust is better than second hand as I imagine the custodes would not like to receive this info from the grey knights at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Maybe it's the weapon to kill the Emperor to be used by Cypher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Lord Sean Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It's a working I win button guys =][= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I wonder why he left that to the grey knights? It makes sense that the box would be where the Sigillite rests, and if his body is on Titan, the reason is simple enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Uriah Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It's the HISTORY ERASER BUTTON, you fool! Maybe something bad will happen... maybe something good... the world may never know, because the Grey Knights are going to guard it.... Hee. Aheeheehe... hee-aaaah! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Of Malfeasance X Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 By the name, I would guess it's the order to terminate the Golden Throne. Grey Knights are already in the Solar System and are the only ones who could hack and hew their way through every defense between them and the palace. When the high lords figure out that the GK intend to unplug their legitimacy, you can bet they will do everything in their power to keep it from happening--including obliterating the Grey Knights, possibly the Ordo Malleus altogether. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 The name and the description certainly seem to support the idea that it will basically kill the Emperor, thus either dooming humanity or herlading His rebirth and their salvation. I'm not really sure whether a reborn Emperor is something that I would like or not. Reading the HH books I'm touched by the tragedy of it all and how things could have been so much better if Horus hadn't ruined it all. Bringing Him back would kind of detract from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andiana Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 By the name, I would guess it's the order to terminate the Golden Throne. Grey Knights are already in the Solar System and are the only ones who could hack and hew their way through every defense between them and the palace. When the high lords figure out that the GK intend to unplug their legitimacy, you can bet they will do everything in their power to keep it from happening--including obliterating the Grey Knights, possibly the Ordo Malleus altogether. Awesome! seconded ^^ If all the imperium is lost, then what have they got to lose? The only thing that could save the imperium is the BIG E back to the height of his powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I smell the most horrible Deus Ex Machine device in history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutteman Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I doubt it'll ever go past this kind of brief "Shiny Pandora's Box" To actually open such a device would spoil the lovely stagnation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It cant be Sensei/Illuminati related because the Emperor doesnt know about them or their plans, because if he did he might give up too early. Though it could be the Emperor being reborn. Though it would have to have been written when the Emperor had come back from fighting Horus and when he ordered Dorn to modify the GT, because otherwise he wouldnt have known he needed such a dangerous failsafe device. I think Dorn wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurgling6688 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Its a note from the Emperor saying "Sucks to be you. Horus should have listened to me :angry:" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andiana Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I think Dorn wrote it. perhaps it's signed by all the loyalist primarchs who were left in the aftermath of the heresy. I'm pretty sure they must've all met together on Terra at least once after the siege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulawful Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It activates a device that causes the star nearest to the planet Krypton to become unstable. The hope is that a guy named Jor-El who lives there will take a break from celebrating the recent birth of his son just long enough to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Just ecasue its called the Terminus Decree doesnt mean that it is a command to unplug the Golden Throne. For instance, the Basel documentation doesnt exactly scream 'banking regulation' from the name, does it. Terminus decree could relate just as easily to the tim eit should be opened - the end of everything/the termination of the Imperium. Just something to keep in mind, carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgard Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Here is something to ponder: the Decree must be something that has massive costs and/or risks associated with it. If it was a powerful device with no real drawbacks, wouldn't you think it would have long been used? There must be a reason why it is not yet used - after all, who would hold his superweapon in reserve until the moment the enemy is breaking into his bunker, when that weapon could be used early enough to pummel the enemies into submission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Here is something to ponder: the Decree must be something that has massive costs and/or risks associated with it. If it was a powerful device with no real drawbacks, wouldn't you think it would have long been used? There must be a reason why it is not yet used - after all, who would hold his superweapon in reserve until the moment the enemy is breaking into his bunker, when that weapon could be used early enough to pummel the enemies into submission? That and only the Grey Knight Grand Master knows of this decree and what to do with it, and where is he again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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