Candleshoes Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 It is a sticky issue with dates being different depending on the age and the source. In the 4th Ed BT codex, it has Castellan Raimer begin his crusade in 998.M41 while making a single communication before vanishing and the Dark Angels leaving the area (with the Voice). However, according to the Eye of Terror Codex, the Voice was active not only in, but long before the 13th Black Crusade in 999.M41, which is further supported by White Dwarf 280, May of 2003 Cypher's Heroes and Villains article, where Interrogator-Chaplain Phaleg sends a transmission to Grand Master Azrael in 999.M41, stating that he secured 3 disciples of the Voice of Reason on Amistel, and was able to gain the location of "Fallen one-zero-zero". In it, he openly states that this is the first time that the Voice has appeared in the open and that the DA's need to bring force to bear. Which date is it really? It's up to the player base's imagination, but realistically, Castellan Raimer was a year into his crusade when the event occurred. Edit** If looking at it from the Templar point of view, yes, Cypher is brought back the way you indicated before the Eye of Terrror campaign, to be a part of it. From a Dark Angel, WD and Eye of Terror point of view, Cypher is first encountered during the Eye of Terror campaign, then subsequently is chased, captured, recaptured and lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I know. Im saying the Reason the Dark Angels have Cypher near Caliban is because he has travelled to the Segmentum Tempestus and the Dark Angels brought him back to the Eye in time for the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Here are the next 2 models I am working on - the non robed will likely be finished before the robed, but I thought I would post them up as WIP. Don't mind the missing backpacks or shoulder pad. In terms of vehicles... I am in the process of gluing my hands together, as well as a Contemptor, but those photos are for the weekend. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/DSCN1957-1.jpg A soon to be Battle-Brother Gaville of the 4th Squad. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/DSCN1961-1.jpg A soon to be Battle-Brother Imola of the 4th Squad. As an aside, I will be looking towards a certain book I have as a remainder from an old Italian Medieval history university class in order to come up with 110 names for my company and support staff. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/15648.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arioch Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Awsome thread :rolleyes: hope to see more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Good point. Have you created a TO&E for the company yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengo Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Dante's Inferno... Literature taste win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 I thought I would post up a partway WIP of Battle-Brother Imola before finnishing him tonight. The only "finnished" colour on the model at the moment is the green. All others will get added... ignore the wonky shield lines and the belt paint splotch, they'll all get fixed as the other colors do come on. I chose to do layers for the army, rather than normal line highlights, which is nice because I can squeeze both the really dark green feel in, with the brighter ones on some surfaces. I thought I would also post up what I do for battle damage as people that I know often comment on how it is an odd order. After painting the base colors for the armour, I use the pin vice to drill a bolter sized hole into the sections that will receive the damage. From here I use a hobby knife to cut the edges and create a crater. The rest of the armour colors will get filled in, and then lastly, the almost bare bones craters are darkened and metalic edged, so to appear as fresh damage. Though appearing big, they do tone down, especially when using the base colour of the armour, rather than just pure black. I think I will be putting a nice big tattoo on his left eye in red, which I am pretty excited about, maybe a red sword and a single wing. Lastly, in terms of bits and bobs, man, those Grey Knights parts are killer for introducing some simple movement into models. The missing shoulder pad will be the Dark Angel veteran pad that is covered in a long cloth, so I can still squeeze some bone colour in. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/DSCN1961.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 You have inspired me to try something similar with my Templars. I'm struggling with adding bitz without crowding the models :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Hello again, Some news to report! I just put in a Forgeworld order for the following: 5 MKIII Iron Armour Marines 5 MKV Heresy Armour Marines 10 Phobos Pattern Bolters 1 Dark Angel Brass Etchings 1 Deimos Pattern Predator 1 Deimos Pattern Rhino Come end of next week, it will be like Christmas, exciting stuff. As for an update on the goings on, I have a WIP of Battle-Brother Gaville, and very early shots of my Contemptor. Mainly just the body is together, the base is very very WIP just to get the size of the stride matched with the ground height. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/DSCN1953.jpg http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/DSCN1957.jpg http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/DSCN1968.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 This is a great project log! Congratulations for the build-up and the execution so far. Questions: Are you going to mix the armour types? I am very excited you ordered some Mk5 - looks so brutal - it's my favorite by far! Are all your vechicles going to be "older" types? It would make a cool force indeed. Maybe you can make use of the latest tank crew in "period" armour! ;) What would the final stage of the project be? I mean, how do you envisage your army at the end? (I think it's the TO&E thingy the Marshal mentioned earlier) Any plans for Mk4 armour? For some reason I always think of per-Heresy/Heresy DAs as predominantly Mk4. Go figure... I can guarantee you the Deimos Rhino was a joy to build and paint! Good choice there. The Pred is still growing on me (slowly tho). Good luck with the Contemptor! What's gonna be on the other hand? Close combat or... dunno... ANOTHER KHERES!!! :lol: I'm really following this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 This is a great project log! ... 2nd'd. Great job 'Shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 Thanks everyone for the great comments! Are you going to mix the armour types? I am very excited you ordered some Mk5 - looks so brutal - it's my favorite by far! I will likely be mixing the two armor types up in the squads, but keeping the marks as is. Potentially, I might do a few robed bodies with the older mark arms, heads, shoulders and packs. We'll have to see how they look in person. Are all your vehicles going to be "older" types? It would make a cool force indeed. Maybe you can make use of the latest tank crew in "period" armour! :lol: I definitely will have a lot of older items and they will be predominant in 1500-2000 point games. I do have quite a few newer kits though, so as the army expands, I will likely start making regular rhinos, razors, land raiders and preds. However, I will be purchasing one of the the shiny new Land Raider Armoured Proteus kits in the spring. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/Proteus_1.jpgI think it would look bad arse in Unforgiven colours. What would the final stage of the project be? I mean, how do you envisage your army at the end? (I think it's the TO&E thingy the Marshal mentioned earlier) It is definitely at the moment feeling like a squad of 10 and a rhino as well as the contemptor is what is on the plate. I have to make sure I can commit and actually make progress on that, and if I can hit that milestone, then I know I can accomplish anything. The squad will really be a testbed for colours, symbols, weapons and basing, the usual new army fears. As it stands, I have 8 of the 10 put together (The Vet Sarge and the heavy weapon marine are left to do) for a total of 4 robed bodies so far and 4 normal power armor wearing models. The initial goal was always to get a playable 1500 point list ready, with a spare 500 points to do bigger games. The ultimate goal is to achieve a whole Battle company, which I already have the models and the vehicles for. I have actually commissioned a very good friend to do some artwork for this log, a banner and a title-page/centerpiece, but as the painting progresses, I will definitely look into having a digital army organization chart drafted up, with squad and weapon breakdowns, individual names and heraldry etc. There is no shortage of ideas, but one step at a time, and close the gap on the first squad. Also, my goal would be that the first and 2nd squads would be company veterans, one melee focussed and the other ranged, 4 normal tac squads, followed by the stock 2 assault, 2 devs. As for what I know I want to include in the 1500 point list, probably a Company Master with command squad, 2 tac squads, 1 company vet squad, appropriate transports, 1 venerable dread, pred. I have 5 terminators made and waiting for paint... but I think it would almost be more fun to make, paint and play a pure "green company" army before including some amazing DW or RW. Any plans for Mk4 armour? For some reason I always think of per-Heresy/Heresy DAs as predominantly Mk4. Go figure... No plans to pick up any from forgeworld, but I do have quite a few MKIV helms on hand, so they will be popping up. There will be a lot of chaos, blood angel, grey knight, bretonnian and dark angel bitz utilized. I can guarantee you the Deimos Rhino was a joy to build and paint! Good choice there. The Pred is still growing on me (slowly tho). Good luck with the Contemptor! What's gonna be on the other hand? Close combat or... dunno... ANOTHER KHERES!!! :teehee: Your rhino is an inspiration and actually prompted me to order the Deimos that I did, so thanks! The contemptor is a bit of a tougher choice... it was an engagement present and came with the assualt cannon and a CC arm. For normal games he would do great as a normal venerable dread. But with the dropping of those new 40K Approved Mortis Pattern dread rules... I am VERY tempted to be patient and make some purchases to do double gun and a missle hat. I mean, it really is a "Dark Angel Thing" so why wouldn't I? But at the same time... something about a dread having a hand with fingers is too cool to pass up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/Untitled.pnghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/047-1.jpgBattle-Brother AtroposAwarded the Visage of Terror at Chalchis IVSuicidal Bravery in the Face of Overwhelming Odds999.M41[/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Dont know wich I like most, the model or the text! Just a detail about the death mask, wouldnt it look better with some power cabels like in the illustration? Being it a small skull it looks like a spectre more than a chaplain... BTW, I just realized the left hand its a normal gun-holding hand with fingers repositined. I am so very truly happy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Brother Atropos has an almost medevial folk art quality... The depiction of death and such! It is really disturbing... Love it! ;) I do agree with Wayward - add tubes and cables and you have the epitome of 40k! Where's the ceremonial sword from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Cables are an excellent idea. I'll have to poke around and see what will fit. Though, things are still very WIP, I was excited to put up the groundwork for the idea of a marine in the Company who has been marked by the chaplaincy for ascension, through a mix of personal development in the "circles" but also their ability on the field. I know that for many loyalist legions pre-heresy, a skull mask over their helm was an award of great prestige for bravery, among the bravest of warriors. Much like Masters choosing their successors while they yet live, it isn't a stretch to think that Chaplians can be chosen in such a way. He'll be painted in normal DA colours, but his right shoulder pad will be black with silver lining, and in the place of his squad marking, there will be another leering skull. The knife is out of the Sanguinary Guard kit (or possibley the Death Company), something blood angely. I also traded a friend today some bits, a Vampire Counts Zombie part - the double severed heads with hair that can be attached to a belt. Also, I picked up a ribcage, some thin skele arms and another head, which will sit atop his backpack in a mock crucifiction, with its face turned, looking in the exact same direction as Atropos himself. As an aside... i broke down and ordered a rocket hat and 2 heavy weapon arms and will be using the Contemptor as a Mortis, with the new FAQ rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The idea of a field ascension is a great one, and would explain the green armour and hastiness of the "transformation" of the marine into a chaplain. Loving this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 *looks at left over dark angels bit* No... I couldn't... *hand drifts towards modelling knife* Think of the Ophidium Gulf, man! What are you doing. *slowly begins to pick up knife* Damn you, Candleshoes!!!! NOOOOOOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abhorash Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 You'll like being a Dark Angel Marshall join us, plus awesome work candleshoes I have always had a nerd crush on chaplains whats not to love about them. Also DA interrogator chaplains are the best, time to torture traitors all day everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazzy Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Join us Marshal, and we can rule the galaxy!!! C'mon, you're thinking about Ophidium Gulf, don't you want to be on the winning side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 Forgot to post this up in the other thread, here is the image that was used to inspire the conversion. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/BA-1.png Also, here is my Valentines Day present... apparently it's supposed to represent everything I stand for... all angry, spiteful, and ever watching for any Fallens that poke their head out. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/045.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagon Sun Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Haha, I really didn't see that as an owl for ages... I thought it was a massive weird smiley face and the beak was a nose! Amazing. Good job on the terror mask as well, would be great with some tubing. In fact good job on the whole thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Also, here is my Valentines Day present... apparently it's supposed to represent everything I stand for... all angry, spiteful, and ever watching for any Fallens that poke their head out. And "wisdom" too, right? :) Great thread build-up by the way. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Here is some WIP items for Battle Brother Atropos. Though, hard to see with the camera-phone pictures, there is now a tube inserted in the side of the jaw, down the throat, exiting into the robes. Rough at the moment, I decided on a trio of skulls to drive home the idea of "Inspiration", as originally, the Muses in mythology numbered 3 in Boetia, until the poets Hesiod and Homer changed it to 9. They are the goddesses of inspired creation and works after all, something very connected with the chaplaincy, and mounted on his shoulder, they watch, inspire and judge in equal measure. To further his corpse like visage, I decided to put the bones of heretics on him, as well as their heads, trophies from his victory on the shrineworld he won his commendation. I am getting a little wooden sign from the Empire Flagellant kit, which I will put on the shoulders of the skeleton with the word Heretic written on it. http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/IMG_0111.jpg http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/IMG_0117.jpg http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/598px-Eustache_Le_Sueur_002.jpg http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p113/Darkbeastman/helms.png Also, I was able to catch Forgeworld and add 2 contemptor dreadnaught autocannon arms and a rocket hat to my order. He'll be made into and used as a Mortis Dread with the new FAQ rules, and in the hopes that it will be included in the new codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 You have 'grimdark' down Candleshoes, I'm loving the bones mate, well done. s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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