DinoDoc Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 If you want to bring the brutality to bear, this is what I used to win Adepticon this year: Hades - Warmaster Ld 8 Hades Devastation Devastation Slaughter Slaughter Slaughter Slaughter Uhm, is my math off or is this 40 pts over? I like it though. Looks like a suitable counterpart to the SM list I'm starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Yeps. Now that you mention it, it is off by about 40 pts... /Master Ciaphas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 250+200+(190x2)+(165x4)=1490. Perfectly legal! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Hmm. I guess I need a new calculator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDoc Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 250+200+(190x2)+(165x4)=1490. Perfectly legal! My bad. AB error on my part. Selected the wrong Warmaster option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Notice I listed the Warmaster as Leadership 8. ;) When you keep the upgrades absolutely minimal, you can field a frightening amount of ships in a Chaos fleet, and they're all ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 Hail! Well - it seems like it! Currently, I am coming up with the following, as I have no Hades-class heavy cruisers at my disposal: Acheron Acheron Devastation Devastation Slaughter-class Slaughter-class Slaughter-class Slaughter-class And with the last 80 points left over, I will be buying an upgrade of somekind...suggestions? Regards, Master Ciaphas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A warmaster! ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I fancy getting into BFG but we rarely have anyone to play with around my end. I need a car really to make some trips to gaming clubs further afield unfortunately. I think I might go for either the Space Marines fleet or Armageddon Fleets (but without Marines in - don't ask me to justify it, it's purely for the Cruiser combinations!). But what about the Dominion fleet? Can anyone tell me whether it's worthwhile? How do Marine vessels without Marine compliments work out in practice? And as an Ultramarines player, could I fit the SO into any of these fleets I've mentioned? If you want to bring the brutality to bear, this is what I used to win Adepticon this year: Hades - Warmaster Ld 8 Hades Devastation Devastation Slaughter Slaughter Slaughter Slaughter I had an unfair advantage though; I was colluding with the mighty Admiral Andy Chambers himself on the fleet design (well, for tips anyway, it was my fleet design). That aside, this fleet is designed to take on everything and win. The Hades provide a staggering 8 very long range lances to the forward arc, and 20 FP on the sides, should that become a thing. This is your nutcracker squadron. Use them to take down/force brace any 6+ armor that's facing you, at long range anyway. The two Devastations provide your air cover. Admittedly, it's a little lightweight, but as Chaos you get all the options for attack craft, so they'll have their uses. More importantly, it's another 4 lances at 60cm for accented nutcracking. Finally, the Slaughter squadron. This...this you use to absolutely murderize any target, in the most brutal way possible. And, as Mr. Chambers told me, they're "fast as weasels", giving you a turn 1-2 obliteration of a target. Never brace, unless you're about to lose two ships in the same salvo. They fly close into enemy ships/squadrons, and annihilate them with a combined 8 lances and FP 56 on one broadside. Most of my opponents' eyes widened and jaws dropped at the announcement of the numbers, and my gentlemanly query of whether they'd like to brace or not. At close range, it kills stuff dead. Take a read through my after-action reports here: LINK. It's a well-balanced fleet that gives you everything you need to take on any fleet. That's a nice list. Are you telling me you have been in dark commune with the Overfiend himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 But what about the Dominion fleet? Can anyone tell me whether it's worthwhile? How do Marine vessels without Marine compliments work out in practice? Not sure what you mean here? I've always used the Dominion list, for fluff and awesomeness. SM ships always have SM crew...? And as an Ultramarines player, could I fit the SO into any of these fleets I've mentioned? Technically, any marine fleet may take the SO, though I'll frown intensely at people who paint it in non-Ultramarines colors. Otherwise, any fleet list that has access to SM Venerable Battle Barges may include the SO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Hail! Another question - unrelated to tactics - does anyone have a fair idea of how to get the correct format to print labels with ship's names? I would LOVE to have permanent names on my vessels...also, as they are painted rather similar, it would make it easier no end, to identify which vessels had actually taken damage... Regards, Master Ciaphas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 That's a nice list. Are you telling me you have been in dark commune with the Overfiend himself? Maybe...;) @Master Ciaphas: I have plain black bases, so I wrote in pencil each ship's name, as well as the arcs so that, at a glance, I'll know the who and where of each ship. The pencil isn't overly gaudy/flashy like paint, and shows up quite clearly when you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Huh I seem to remember Dominion fleets have cheaper Strike Cruisers because they're not getting the Space Marines crew upgrade? Meh what do I know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoDoc Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 The benefit of the Dominion list IIRC is the ability to add IN ships. Otherwise you might as well be using the Crusade list IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 SC are 145 points in both fleet lists; in the pre-2010 iteration, they were cheaper, but they still had SM crew. Differences between the fleets now: - Crusade fleet has access to the fortress monastery and Thunderhawk annihilators - Crusade fleet cannot take any allies - Dominion fleet has access to any Imperial ships as reserves/reinforcements - Dominion fleet can give said ships SM captains - Dominion fleet has access to Swords, Firestorms, Cobras, and Falchions as SM-crewed escorts As an owner of multiple escorts painted as Ultramarines, the last point is quite important. As a frequent player against Eldar, the first is equally important (the Annihilators). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 Hail! Well - I managed to finish the last of my Chaos cruisers. Now what to do?! I decided, that I wanted it to be a Slaughter-class, as I have so far mainly been playing the "stand-off and shoot"-game, which is getting a bit dull. So, a bit more of "in you face" and "prepare to board!!" was on order. Here I thus present the Plaga Mortis - dread scourge of the Koronus sector :-) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/Battlefleet%20Gothic/BFG-ChaosSlaughter-classcruiser_zps6714765a.jpg And it will have it.s baptism of fire tomorrow. Pictures will naturally be forthcoming! Regards, Master Ciaphas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Nice! I usually consider boarding an afterthought...though, most of the time, my fleets just bludgeon their way through enemy ships so thoroughly that there's nothing left to board! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Somewhat new to BFG, but always wanted to get into it. I've got a few models including a bag of assorted Imperial cruisers, escorts, fighters, bombers and some mines, alongside a small handful of Marine cruisers. If I wanted to use them all in a single fleet ( mixed Navy and Marines ) what would be the best way to go about doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 IIRC, the main choices are: • The "Segmentum Solar, Armageddon Sector" Fleet List from BFG: Armada, which is an Imperial Navy fleet with full access to Space Marine ships • The "Space Marines Dominion" Fleet List from the 2010 FAQ, which is a Space Marine fleet that allows Imperial Navy ships to be taken as reserves. Which is best will depend on the exact ships you want to take. If you have fewer SM ships than IN, I'd guess Armageddon is probably a better fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Through the darkness of the void, the Imperial patrol fleet cut a swift path. Aboard the ancient vessel, Legatus Stygies, admiral Severinus Blake Saltonstall regarded the viewports calmly. The Hellfire Veil could be seen clearly, a bleeding stain in the depths of space. A warp storm smaller by far than the infamous Ocularis Terribus or even the lesser well-known Maelstorm in the Segmentum Ultima, the Hellfire Veil was a serious enough threat to warrant a permanent cordon fleet, in case any of its denizens tried to escape into the greater Imperium. Saltonstall puffed out his chest. Aboard the Legatus he was akin to a god. None could stand before its mighty gun batteries - and supported by his battlefleet, Saltonstall was nigh invincible. Sighing, he considered the injustice of being placed in command of a cordon fleet. With his obvious talents, he should be leading crusades to reclaim the galaxy from traitors, heretics and the lesser xenos races. Unfair, is what it was. Silently railing against his horrid fate, languishing and wasting his finest years with the mind-numbingly dull duty of being a gaoler for the Veil, Saltonstall missed the rapidly flashing alert light on his command console. He had long ago ordered the klaxons to be muted, as he found they gave him a headache. Turning his attention to the console, Saltonstall stared at the read-out next to it, not quite comprehending what he was seeing. Something was emerging from the Hellfire Veil. Something treasonous... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/IMG_2136_zpsd594b307.jpg The three Slaughter-class cruisers Unrepentant, Defiler and Sacrilegious powered through the void, making for deep space beyond the scattered Imperial fleet. Flanking them, the Iconoclast-class destroyer Morbidus Rex provided the chaos fleet with long range augers. Mekhari the Radiant stood proud upon the deck of his flagship, Sacrilegious. It had taken many cycles in the Formless Wastes of the Hellfire Veil to gather the ships now under his command. The Pantheon had spoken to him in his dreams, and shown him the path he must take - and when the Pantheon spoke, Mekhari knew he would be wise to heed their commands. Across the void, the sorceror regarded the Imperial fleet. Spread out as it was, it would be essential to make all haste to break their cordon and escape into deep space. Opposing his three capital ships was the Imperial flagship, an ancient Vengeance-class grand cruiser. It would almost - almost - be a pity to destroy such a vessel, but with time of the essence, boarding it and capturing it would be too difficult and slow. The Slaughter-class squadron kept in close formation as they locked their guns on the Imperial flagship. Firing, the weapon batteries quickly knocked down all the shields of the grand cruiser and a few shots impacted on the heavy armour on its port side, explosions erupting from within. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/IMG_2137_zps5c37c4ed.jpg Wounded, but by no means out of the fight, the Imperial navy responded to the sudden threat from the Hellfire Veil. The Legatus Stygies moved ahead with dignified grace, whilst it's supporting fleet turned hard to port, trying as quickly as they could to come to the aid of their admiral, whose panicked orders to close with and destroy the arch-enemy left little doubt as to what he expected them to do. Unfortunately, Saltonstall's fleet deployment had left the ships of the cordon force spread thinly across a vast area of space. On the bright side, one of the two Nova Cannons carried in the fleet was within range of the aggressors - and righteous punishment was unleashed...but sadly the foul gods of Chaos protected the enemy, as the shot went wide. The impressive fire power of the Legatus Stygies succeded only in knocking down the shields on the Defiler. Mekhari smiled without warmth. The Pantheon commanded that he make haste for their objective - but here, in front of him, was a worthy offering for their eternal hunger. Once more locking gun sights on the Imperial flagship, his squadron cut grimly forward. At his command, the ships shook with firing of the many weapon batteries on the port side. Salvo after salvo hammered into the Legatus Stygies, tearing hundreds of tonnes of armoured plating off it in violent explosions. Shuddering again, a ripple went through the once proud grand cruiser, and with a final twitch, the Imperial flagship surrendered to the grim inevitabilty of amount of punishment inflicted upon it, and blinked out of existance, as it's plasma drives overloaded. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/IMG_2138_zps5d9e3add.jpg Despite having their flagship destroyed in front of their eyes, the Imperial fleet swept in to take revenge. The two remaining Imperial heavy cruisers finally brought their Nova Cannons to bear, and in salvo after salvo, the traitor ship Unrepentant was finally crippled. It was, however, too little, too late. Mekhari turned towards the bridge slave crew "Signal the fleet. Inform them to engage warp drives. We are leaving..." http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/IMG_2139_zpsa74eddfd.jpg With salvoes of torpedoes following them, and flights of Imperial bomber wings closing, the Chaos fleet slid into the warp and vanished, now loose in the Imperium to pursue the goals whispered into the dreams of Mekhari... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/IMG_2140_zps908d56ba.jpg Result: Chaos victory. 807 VP vs 42 VP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hail! Well - despite the game having gone out of production, I still have a few unpainted ships left...after last night, I have two fewer unpainted, but can call upon a mighty convoy instead! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/Battlefleet%20Gothic/BattlefleetGothicfueltransports_zpsaef89577.jpg Regards, Master Ciaphas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Hail! Well, the fight to finish all my remaining BFG ships continues undaunted...and I am almost there! Just a lot of spacecraft markers to go, 2 Imperial cruisers, 3 Iconoclast destroyers, 4 orbital platforms, a Vengeance-class grand cruiser, an Apocalypse-class battleship and a Despoiler-class battleship...and then I am done! Guess what I will be doing for Christmas... ;-) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/Battlefleet%20Gothic/BFG-ImperialNavy-Dauntless-classlightcruiser-lancer_zps0ce7f2a0.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Master_Ciaphas/Battlefleet%20Gothic/BFG-ImperialNavy-Dauntless-classlightcruiser-lancer02_zpsadaea56f.jpg Enjoy! Master Ciaphas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Great paintwork! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsavant Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Okay, looking for input...... I've started a small collection of stuff, after rescuing my old BFG boxset from the loft. Played scant few games, and doubtful I'll play many more, but I'm looking at creating fleets for a WIP story thread, using the minis in pics etc. probably to be sold at a later date. Guess the age old question is: What do I assemble the eight Imp/Chaos cruisers as ? Currently blu-tacked as various things from yonder, and I at least appreciate the torp/broadsides tactics for Imps, and maintaining distance for Chaos, but that's not really Khornate for my fluff...... but looking for balance later on I'll need to consider it. What I currently have: SM: BB x 1 SC x 2 Nova x 6 (BB+SC+5 Novas painted White Scars, SC+Nova painted Celestial Guard for fluff) Chaos: Despoiler Repulsive Cruisersx 4 (need 2+1 heavy to unlock either above ^ right ?) Infidels x 4 Iconoclasts x 5 IN: Grand Cruiser Cruisers x 4 (again, 2+1 heavy to allow GC ^) Cobras x 3 Firestorm x 3 I'm probably looking for more Chaos cruisers to allow both the big ships, so points wise the two (SM+IN vs Chaos) fleets will balance out, but in the meantime, just looking for input on the cruiser composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yep, you are right on the unlock system. 2 Cruisers unlocks 1 Battle/Heavy/Grand cruiser, all three unlock one battleship. I'd make two Imperial ships into Dictators and two Chaos ships into Devastators. It's always good to pack a couple carrier ships into any fleet, to intercept torpedoes and bombers. For the Imperials, a pair of Tyrants with boosted weapons batteries is generally decent, given that you have no range otherwise (a shortcoming of the Imperial Navy). Either that, or a Mars or Overlord class battlecruiser, none are bad choices. As for Chaos, you will never go wrong with Carnages, which are good at all ranges, but especially up close, where they're combined firepower is absolutely brutal. How about these ideas: IN (Attack craft swarm) - Mars Battlecruiser - 3 Dictator Cruisers (Nova cannon, ho!) - Mars Battlecruiser - 3 Dominator Cruisers (Balanced) - 2 Tyrant Cruisers - 2 Dictator Cruisers (Close range brutality) - 2 Dominator Cruisers - 2 Gothic Cruisers Chaos (Attack craft swarm + extreme range lance bombardment) - Styx Heavy Cruiser - 3 Devastation Cruisers (Stand-off shooting) - Hades Heavy Cruiser - 3 Murder Cruisers (Balanced) - 2 Devastation Cruisers - 2 Carnage Cruisers (Close range brutality) - 4 Slaughter Cruisers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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