Captain Semper Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 Welcome to the ETL Loken - glad to see another Wolf coming along to help his brothers! :D What Arez said is correct though, Wolf Guard comes in packs of three... And to get an assault cannon you need at least five. So a way to go around this is to pledge him as a Battle Leader who can be equipped in similar way (well the assault cannon is out obviously) and it's also beneficial points wise. ;) If you already have the mini and you want to pledge it and can't / won't remove the assault cannon, you can just cost it as a strom bolter. You'll be missing some points but then again upgrading him to a Battle Leader more than makes up for it! ;) I suggest you reprice your vow accordingly and I'll update the table immediately after. EDIT: your vow is in - table updated! Good luck :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3085745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I am saving my second part of vow for a Wolf Guard pack and Long Fangs. A mix of PA and TDA Wolf Guard. and Cyclone Missile Launcher (now that is to compensate for something)! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3085779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 If I manage to complete my current vow by 15th July - I shall create a wolf lord with saga of the beast-slayer represented along with a frost axe and combi-melta - now I just have to sort the bits and finish up my vow first haha - the dread is fairly close to finished, and should be done some time over the next or so ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3085853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 ONLY 24 HOURS TO GO FOR NEW ENTRANTS TO JOIN E TENEBRAE LUX! The current situation in terms of participants:Black Templars 50Blood Angels 46Dark Angels 60Codex: Space Marines 45Space Wolves 32Chaos 35Ordos Inquisition 12Total 279So make haste – this time tomorrow the doors close to new entrants forever! Set your B&C clock to GMT time, this is what I’m going by. Good luck to all! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3085930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I'm editing my vow: -wolf guard pack;7wolf guard: 4*PF, 2PW, 1combimelta,4 stormbolters 243 pts -grey hunter pack I: 5 grey hunters, plasma gun, wolf standard 95 pts -grey hunter pack: 6 grey hunters, plasma gun,PF,wolf standard 135 pts -grey hunter pack: 8 grey hunters; melta gun,PF,wolf standard 160 pts -wolf guard battle leader: PF,stormbolter 98pts -wolf guard battle leader: PF, combimelta 105pts -wolf guard battle leader: PF, stormbolter, wolf tail talisman 103 pts -wolf guard battle leader, TH, stormbolter, wolf tail talisman 108 pts -wolf guard battle leaders; combimelta, powerfist, wolf tooth necklace 115 pts -wolf guard pack: (PF,stormbolter), PW, PW 97 pts that's a new total of 1014 pts instead of 633 pts! and only one week left till my thesis-defence, afterwards i'll have plenty of time to paint these badboys! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Done! Good luck hendrick - soon to become Dr. hendrick I take it? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 if only, just my bachelors degree :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norskman Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hi, this sounds like fun so here it goes: “I Norskman answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete 15 blood claws with two melta guns, a plasma pistol and a power weapon, as well as a wolfpriest with a storm bolter and wolftail talisman and finally a dreadnought with assault cannon and a heavy flamer from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 483 points on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Vlka Fenryka and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hi, this sounds like fun so here it goes: “I Norskman answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete 15 blood claws with two melta guns, a plasma pistol and a power weapon, as well as a wolfpriest with a storm bolter and wolftail talisman and finally a dreadnought with assault cannon and a heavy flamer from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 483 points on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Vlka Fenryka and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” Welcome to The Fang! Can't think of a better way to introduce yourself than showing your support in defense of this campaign. If you have any picks of your current army, we'd love to see them in a new thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Right, I managed to pop on rather quickly to post this: +++ ad (195pts) +++ +++ 230pt Space Wolves 5th Ed (2009) Roster (Standard) +++ Selections: + HQ + (195pts) * Wolf Lord (195pts) Runic Armour, Storm Shield, Thunder Hammer, Wolf Tail Talisman, Wolftooth Necklace Created with BattleScribe That's more of a placeholder so that I can stick in the mega-vow when I'm finally not busy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 @ Norksman: Welcome to the ETL & B&C!!! I;m very proud every time a first time poster pledges a vow - it means people find this fun enough to stop lurking and become active! @ CM Ignis: What was that? :) I tired my best to decifer the various point values and the verious units mentioned but this is the best I could come up with -check front table! In case I got it wrong, let me know and I'll fix it! :P Good luck to both! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 do i just put my vow in here? Space wolves for me. a land raider a land raider redeemer w/melta a whirlwind missile launcher a predator w/Heavy bolter sponsons and storm bolter a predator w/TL las canon, las canon sponsons, and storm bolter total of 860 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Yep, just put your vow here! You're in - good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Glad to see some new people joining up! And Welcome to the Fang norskman! ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcielago Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Well...I was originally going to leave the Wolves to join the Blood Angels because they have more participants...But I owe Forte and swore to take a vow for him. So here it is I suppose. I, Murcielago, Son of the VIII Legion, answer the Dark Angels challenge and vow to complete 1 Night Lords Claw Squad (9 Hunters, 1 meltagun, 1 Wolf standard, and 1 Mark of Wulfen...Led by a Wolf Guard Battle Leader with Powerfist and Combi-Melta. This totals 260 points for the Wolves. Happy hunting Brothers. We will win this yet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 E TENEBRAE LUX – JUNE 15TH UPDATE http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/DA_Challenge_End_of_Time.jpg +++ IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR+++ E TENEBRAE LUX has just completed its first month in what can only be described as a resounding success. With almost 300 participants and more than 165k points pledged so far between all forums this is a moment for all of us to feel proud! Congratulations to every one for your commitment and enthusiasm! Now the number of participants is fixed, the teams for each forum are formed and those that have committed carry the responsibility to drive their faction to new heights of glory and honor! Remember that from now on NO NEW ENTRANTS AND NO MODIFICATIONS TO SUBMITTED VOWS ARE ALLOWED!So the initial enthusiasm must now gradually give way to reflection and longer term planning so that each forum maximizes their chances to come on top. Some forums (BTs, BAs & SWs) have already threads in place that discuss the recruitment phase; now these same threads could continue to serve as Strategiums where each forum will be discussing their strategy, allocate specific tasks to team members and share intelligence from other forums strategies and progress. I strongly recommend that all forums utilize such methods as not only they’ll help on a practical level – they also help to maintain moral and ongoing drive in what is essentially a marathon – not a sprint! To be a bit more specific, here is the situation as it stands now in the form of the familiar table of the previous weekly updates: E TENEBRAE LUX – JUNE 15TH Black Templars 53 64 29,911 467 Blood Angels 46 51 26,997 529 Dark Angels 65 69 36,102 523 Codex Space Marines 47 49 30,309 619 Space Wolves 36 40 25,654 641 Chaos 36 39 13,819 354 Ordos Inquisition 13 17 5,061 298 Total 296 329 167,833 510 Index Astartes 23 24 13,267 553 Liber Astartes 13 14 9,663 690 Ultramarines 11 11 7,379 671 From the table above one can easily see the relative sizes of the teams for each forum. However the number of participants is only one parameter for the final success. The commitment of the various forums will now be reflected in the size of the average vow (as new vows will be coming in) and of course the completion rate, i.e. what percentage of the pledged points that are completed! These two metrics will be crucial as people will be able to decide on what sort of size of new vows they should be aiming and how far behind (or ahead) each forum is in achieving its maximum potential! This is going to be interesting as there are no constants! Both the number of vows and the number of points are variables so get ready for a lot of fun!!! In order to monitor the situation better, and since the number of participants is now fixed, I’m going to introduce a new table in the weekly updates (next one will be coming in next Monday or Tuesday) the format of which can be seen below: E TENEBRAE LUX – JUNE 15TH Black Templars 64 29,911 467 3,821 13% Blood Angels 51 26,977 529 2,925 11% Dark Angels 69 36,102 523 755 2% Codex Space Marines 49 30,309 619 220 1% Space Wolves 40 25,654 641 3,078 12% Chaos 39 13,819 354 2,116 15% Ordos Inquisition 17 5,061 298 1,563 31% Total 329 167,833 510 14,478 9% Index Astartes 24 13,267 553 85 1% Liber Astartes 14 9,663 690 135 1% Ultramarines 11 7,379 671 0 0% So now the average vow and the overall completion rate will be visible each week. Furthermore the first page table will be updated frequently (the aim here is to have at least one daily update) so people can see completions and calculate rates on their between the “official” weekly updates.Comments:The Dark Angels appear to be in a good position. They have the largest team which certainly gives considerably more options especially as the Challenge progresses. Their average vow is slightly above the average of the ETL denoting that they are not overly reliant on few super-vows adding to their flexible outlook. This combined with the highest amount of pledged points puts the DAs among the favorites to win. Where they obviously lag at the moment is completions as their completion ratio is a meager 2%. Given the early phase of the Challenge this is not too worrying... yet! The Wolves present the opposite picture. The second lowest participation (AT PAR WITH Chaos) and the highest average vow mean a high reliance on super-vows and makes for an unstable mix in the long run. This means that a few braves will have to tirelessly continue to vow even after their first (huge) vows are completed! The fairly high completion rate of 12% this early in the challenge also underlines the effect of the high point average vows... Do they have the stamina to keep going? Well, if not the Wolves then who?Blood Angels have made a very decent appearance. With 46 participants and an average vow of close to the competition average they are excellently positioned to make a serious attempt for victory. They have a relatively high completion rate for this stage of the Challenge of 11% which means they are a formidable opponent. Add to that their legacy as the painting forum (twice LPC Champions is not to be taken lightly) and you have a solid contestant for the Champion title! Well done guys!Black Templars went crazy. Let me explain: They have the second highest number of participants (53) of which 22(!) pledged a vow after last Tuesday’s weekly update. These are the most vows added in a single week by any forum, and it was not even a full week – rather 3.5 days is more like it... And that’s not all. They have managed the most completions (some of them are in their 5th vow already) and have a respectable completion rate already at 13%. Their average vow is lower than the average though which means they will have at some point to pledge more, Emperor’s Champions alone won’t cut it... Codex Forums are a strange mix. Their total participants match those of the BAs which is very encouraging but their average vow is significantly higher than the Challenge average – that means many participants and many with high value vows as opposed to the Wolves that have few participants with high value vows. As a result, at present, the Codex forums have the second highest points value pledged. This is going to be the most interesting faction to watch because it can go both ways: either people get tired of their large vows and lose momentum, or their high participation will kick in and win the day! Hmmm... We just have to wait and see. Chaos made some last minute additions but the bottom line is they are few (at par with the Wolves) and with a very low average vow. Frankly they will have to do something if they want to challenge the title of the Champion. And since bring in more participants is no longer an option they’ll have to significantly raise the value of their vows... If rumors of an imminent new Chaos Codex prove correct it might be the catalyst they’ll require to really get their engines going! Ordos Inquisition is the outsider. They are few but they are committed! They currently sport the highest completion rate with an astounding 31%! They sure are a source of inspiration for all! Keep it up guys! The Mechanicum declined the challenge altogether. So remember: NO MORE NEW ENTRANTS, NO MORE MODIFICATIONS ON VOWS! So until the next weekly update, farewell and good luck to all! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 *passes ales to Norskman, Matt and Ignis* drink heartily brothers for there is much work to be done, onwaaaards to glooory :) and ofcourse shaming these dress-wearers that skulk within their little dungeons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Thats a lot of changes in what the lineup was. While not being on top as a wolf is disheartening, seeing the whole and some of what others have painted is pretty awesome. Hopefully we will all make our chapters proud! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 We are currently in 2nd place boys!! That's motivating for me, I hope it makes you feel the same. I'm off to do some painting now!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Looking at the endgame, so long as vows committed are painted, we're not. counting on others not fulfilling a VOW is something i won't rely on. It is cowardly to rely on the failure of others. I know that i will be making a second vow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Right, I assume I can submit my second vow now? I give you: The Seven Savage Sheperds! +++ E Tenebrae Lux (1460pts) +++ +++ 1460pt Space Wolves 5th Ed (2009) Roster (Standard) +++ Selections: + HQ + (1460pts) * Njal Stormcaller (270pts) Runic Terminator Armour * Rune Priest (100pts) (Runic Weapon) Power Armour, Runic Weapon * Wolf Lord (240pts) Runic Armour, Storm Shield, Thunder Hammer, Thunderwolf Mount, Wolf Tail Talisman, Wolftooth Necklace * Wolf Lord (225pts) Frost Blade, Runic Armour, Space Marine Bike, Storm Shield, Wolf Tail Talisman, Wolftooth Necklace * Wolf Lord (230pts) Belt of Russ, Bolt Pistol, Frost Blade, Runic Armour, Thunderwolf Mount, Wolf Tail Talisman, Wolftooth Necklace * Wolf Lord (235pts) Frost Blade, Runic Armour, Storm Shield, Thunderwolf Mount, Wolf Tail Talisman, Wolftooth Necklace * Wolf Priest (160pts) Crozius Arcanum, Fang of Morkai, Runic Armour, Space Marine Bike, Wolf Amulet, Wolf Tail Talisman Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 BRAVO! We need more of this. by tonight i will be at least 2/3 done, so i am not far behind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Someone explain "second vow"? Despite the closed submission, I can add to my vow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 You can finish the current vow, then make another after. Fail one, fail all including the previous finished ones Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yup, Ray has it right. Must finish the first to get a second, or "unlock" a second so to speak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/14/#findComment-3086959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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