John Rainbow Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I don't know if people have seen rumours such as this which suggest a new flyers update is coming and that the Storm Raven is going to be an option for all Space Marines, regardless of Codex. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/01/flyer-supplement-compendium-with.html Personally, I'm not sure how I feel about this. If the Storm Raven does indeed 'go vanilla' it might put one of the final nails in the BA coffin for me - especially if it goes into their Fast Attack slot. Anyone else have any thoughts or hear any other rumours regarding this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Booo Still, once a Blood Angel, always a Blood Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 while it would upset me a little..what difference would it make to my army?...none. I dont,however,think that they should get bloodstrike missiles or skies of blood. (or blood fuesalage, or blood landing gear or even blood ramps for blood assaults. blood. blood.) im more worried that the raven will be downpowered or nerfed somehow and then i have opponents who tell me im playing my raven 'wrong' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I don't know about that... I like the fact the SR is mainly a BA, and GK thing, but I will consider this if the namby pamby vanilla marines give us the STC for the Storm Talon, so we take it apart modify it, and make if faster, then call it a Blood Talon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 It makes sense that Vanilla Marines get some sort of flyer, and given that the GK already have the Storm Raven also, I won't be surprised to see the Ultramarines get it. Although I believe the Dark Angels did not get access to the SR in their codex, so who knows? For myself, it doesn't make a big difference because I don't own any Storm Ravens, they had nothing to do with my love for Blood Angels, and I shall continue to resist buying flyers of any stripe for as long as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Vanilla Marines all ready have a flyer, and that the Storm Talon. So if they were granted the SR, then they would be the only codex yet to have two flyer units available to them. So if they opened up that option to the SM codex, then the FA slot for Storm Talon's should be open to us. I see that as a fair trade. But honestly I'd rather have something like the Dark Talon, or Niphilim fighter in the DA dex than just a plain o' storm talon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteriousmaskedmystery Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 It makes sense that Vanilla Marines get some sort of flyer, and given that the GK already have the Storm Raven also, I won't be surprised to see the Ultramarines get it. Although I believe the Dark Angels did not get access to the SR in their codex, so who knows? For myself, it doesn't make a big difference because I don't own any Storm Ravens, they had nothing to do with my love for Blood Angels, and I shall continue to resist buying flyers of any stripe for as long as I can. yes, it would make sense if C:SM got some sort of flyer, like, a storm talon for instance. i think that you're right about the DA though. if they didn't give it to them, why give it to anyone else? and if we shared the SR, do we get ST or nephilim, or SE for that matter now? why do we give up everything we get then get shafted in return. also, isn't that the whole point of allies. they can take a RAS, librarian or reclusiarch with jp and take a SR if they really want it, much better than what we have as options if we wanted to take a storm talon for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rainbow Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 A new post has just come up over on Faeit about this. No new info. really though. Just a cover pic and collated rumours. http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/01/cover-pic-death-from-skies.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 It would be nice if they made a GW plastic version of the Caestus Assault Ram. And gave us that! That thing just screams close combat mayhem. But alas that will never happen. And the Storm Talon kinda bridges the gap from a Land Speeder to Storm Raven. Plus the Storm Raven being the newest money maker for GW of course the share holders would like that in every codex. As long as they don't rob us of the Baal Predator. Even thou the Deimos Pattern Infernus Pred from FW is a clear knock off variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokhar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'm not going to be pleased if the Stormraven goes vanilla, its one of a few things we've got that still give BA somewhat of an edge. Its not like they couldn't already steal one by allies (whereas Dark Angels can't loan out scoring Terminators or Bikes), and don't already have their own distinct flyers. If it remains in the Heavy Support slot its a little more palatable, FA would irk me greatly. Same if they got our Strength 8 AP 1 missiles. A shoddy version akin to the Grey Knight SR wouldn't be as egregious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzephalon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yeah... Why not. Ignore the fluff to increase sales and just mix up all the codices a little more. It will come to the day that it really doesn't matter anymore which codex you are actually playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNidus Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Cry more, pretty boys. Jokes aside, is it really a big deal? Will your armies change that much?And why would BA suddenly lose its uniqueness if the SR becomes available to C:SM? After all, weren't the BA unique before stormravens? You guys have a lot going for you! Fast rhinos, Baal preds, Mephiston, Sanguinary Guard as troops, Jump Pack Command squads, etc...Cheer up lads, it really isn't that much of a problem. Hell, i'd love to play the BA codex, if it weren't for the red thirst and the BA fluff. Just kidding... i don't mind the red thirst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 why are people so bothered? my friend runs a SR in his ultras..its painted ultras..it just uses the allies rules. if vannila marines get ravens they arent going to magically disapear from our dex. we got sternguard and vanguard from their dex. we still have a nice fluffy codex (IMO) and their codex is still boring. come on guys.. they can all take a raven anyway with the allies rule. and as for the space marine smart car?? i would rather they kept it away from us thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Quick question, if Vanilla gets RAvens, can I have a Storm Talon without needing allies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 That will depend on the mighty GW for they giveth and they taketh away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Quick question, if Vanilla gets RAvens, can I have a Storm Talon without needing allies? Would be a bit daft if not, but then this is GW we're talking about. Lots of 'salt' about these rumours. People claiming the cover is fake, and no mention of it in the current White Dwarf. The Stormraven being available to other Marines is one of these rumours that keeps coming up, but never happens We'll wait and see I guess - I'd quite like a couple of Storm Talons to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Yeah... Why not. Ignore the fluff to increase sales and just mix up all the codices a little more. Find me the part in the fluff where it says only the BA use the Storm Raven. I searched a while ago. BA have them as the AdMech hasnt fully sanctioned their blueprints. This is cold hard fluff. When the AdMech gives the all clear, they will roll out the SR to all chapters. Which appears to be happening. This is as fluffy as it gets, and marks progression. The SR kit was too big and nice for BA to have the only claim to it. I'd imagine the marine version will have weakened missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The BA's arent the only ones to have it - the Grey Knights have it too. That being said, I will believe this rumour when I see it in cold hard print on a page in front of me. Anything else is just yet more wish-listing internet fanboi-ism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Yeah... Why not. Ignore the fluff to increase sales and just mix up all the codices a little more. Find me the part in the fluff where it says only the BA use the Storm Raven. I searched a while ago. BA have them as the AdMech hasnt fully sanctioned their blueprints. This is cold hard fluff. When the AdMech gives the all clear, they will roll out the SR to all chapters. Which appears to be happening. This is as fluffy as it gets, and marks progression. The SR kit was too big and nice for BA to have the only claim to it. I'd imagine the marine version will have weakened missiles. Can we call them Vanilla Missiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Can we call them Vanilla Missiles? In true Wardian fashion of naming stuff after the first word in the Codex title, they will be "Space Missiles". Or be named after some form of knight. Paladin missiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 ultra missiles... they will be remodelled to look like calgars fists and fly straight into the enemys face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Or perhaps the Vulkan Megamissile? And what would their Skies of Blood equivalent be called? Rain of Hundreds and Thousands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 as long as one day the Blood Angels codex has an option for Lucius pattern drop pods... Over all I think it would just be better if someone else than Mat Ward wrote the next BA dex. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodsurfer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Their Skies of Blood equivalent would be called Vanilla Skies... of course. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israfel Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Their Skies of Blood equivalent would be called Vanilla Skies... of course. And "Bloodstrike Missiles" would be "Logistic Missiles" undoubtedly! You fire one you get some pavement, you fire two you get a road, when you fire three you get a bridge and if you fire all of four in one go you get an aquaduct :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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