Dantay VI Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 My goodness, you're a butcher, in the best possible way. "Steve Austin, astronaut. A man barely alive." "Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Steve Austin will be that man. Better than he was before. Better...stronger...faster." I dunno, with the mohawk, could be Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5039464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) The others didn't like the arm? Well they're wrong. I would leave it unarmed, though... perhaps slightly bent arm with palm facing to the sky, like he's generating lightning or some sort of filthy mutant power. Edited March 24, 2018 by DuskRaider Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5039551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 My goodness, you're a butcher, in the best possible way. Out of chaos comes order, or something really deep sounding like that, right? I tend to look at it as more freedom to do the crazy stuff I want without having to compromise. :D I dunno, with the mohawk, could be Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell The mohawk won't be staying and he'll be getting even more hair and beard than Thor did. The others didn't like the arm? Well they're wrong. I would leave it unarmed, though... perhaps slightly bent arm with palm facing to the sky, like he's generating lightning or some sort of filthy mutant power. If I still had one of those Grey Knights hands I most definitely would. Here's a few runes I had a go at sculpting for use on the rune priest. Not the greatest pic but I wasn't ready to remove them from the sheet plastic yet, which is probably why it came out so funky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5039796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Dry run for Odin. Regular shoulder pads looked too small, so tried out a couple things. Pearson73 and DuskRaider 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5040515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Chain hanging down from those Cataphractii pads would probably make that look awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5040546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Hotdamn that looks regal. In a brutal kind of way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5041632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Thanks, guys. As much as I like the cataphractii shoulder pads, he's supposed to be in power armor and it looks odd to me because of that. I had forgotten how difficult it can be to pose a long weapon like a spear or Nostraman chainglaive and still look interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5041676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 It looks like he's supposed to be casually walking, so the current pose you have works. You could also have him resting it on his shoulder which would give him a bit of swagger as well. As far as pauldrons, Master Crafted Miniatures makes truescale pieces that could work as well. Augustus b'Raass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5041689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 I've been working on Odin Allfather over the past week or so and it's turning into Odin Allproblems. Once I started working on the legs it quickly became apparent that his legs were too far apart for his hips, and his hair and beard have been a constant headache. I finally got something I'm somewhat happy with and I believe this is hair attempt #8, but since I had the bright idea of doing hair on all of these guys and have only sculpted it a few times... here we are. The beard is just a foundation form so I have something solid to build on, but what do you think, brothers? Grotsmasha, Subtle Discord, Grim Dog Studios and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5044665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Reminds me of Snake Plissken, there could be no beter Odin. Elzender and Brother-Chaplain Kage 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5044668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Jack Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Hair can be a real bastard to sculpt for sure. Odin's hair as is isn't too shabby, but some 'strands' look a little chunky, like a dreadlock. How long did you wait for the GS to cure before starting sculpting? I find it can help to let it harden slightly so it is less malleable and therefore holds together better. In addition, it can help to go over the indentation lines (looks like you've used a colour shaper?)with a scalpel blade to get a little more depth and variety. Either way, I feel your pain, but persevere and it'll be a useful skill acquired for life. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5044675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Good stuff. I'm continually amazed what you can do with GS. I'll echo Capt. Jack re: the thickness here and there, but overall it looks great. The style is definitely a keeper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5047004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 I should have explained in the original post that I'm going to be putting them on snow bases and sculpted his hair that way as though it's gotten damp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5047480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 After several beard attempts with some funky Viking-like styles, I settled on a good ol' tactical beard for the Allfather. And I may end up doing the hair again. *sigh* Lexington, Chaplain Raeven, Bryan Blaire and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5048326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Looks like Odin from the Marvel Thor movies to me So Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5048344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 He looks very... "Solid". ;) Elzender 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5048345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 I'll have to take your word for it, Major, since the last Metal Gear game I played was Metal Gear Solid. *checks Google* Um, 20 years ago. O_o TURBULENCE and Major_Gilbear 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5048824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 It may not look like it, but I've had to do a lot of reworking on the legs of ol' Odin. In my initial pinning of the legs to the hip area, I made them way too far apart and it didn't become apparent until I started to rebuild the upper thighs. Plus, more angles on the beard. I've also made the decision to try sculpting my re-imagined Phoenix Lords from scratch using Fimo and hopefully get at least one entered in the upcoming ETL. The Nephilim, TheOneTrueZon, robofish7591 and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5052474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 I took the plunge today and started on making my first armature to sculpt a figure from scratch, for which I used my Karandras conversion to model it off of. My armature is a bit larger than the conversion but I think I got the pose pretty close and was able to correct the forward lean I didn't like in my original version. For those interested, I've been watching Tom Mason's youtube channel and made a little wood vice sculpting stand from one of his vids. It's a 1.5" x .5" x whatever length piece of wood that he suggests you cut into 1" sections, drill a hole through and put a bolt in, but I tried that and the 1" sections seemed a bit small to me so I went with 1.5" wide sections. So far, I like where it's going, but I'm still very nervous about a lot of this. The next step is to cover the armature in a very thin layer of greenstuff, which you have to do so the polymer clay of your choice has something to stick to (won't stick to the metal). I haven't been able to find a definitive answer to if you can bake the figure in sections (kind of like what I'm used to with GW), but Tom Mason and some of the other sculptors I've been looking up have all said they sculpt the entire thing and then bake it. And I was also surprise that even with steel wire, the armature is still extremely bendy and makes me worry about shifting it when I'm sculpting. Oh yeah, and just to make it even more fun, the effect of clay shapers and metal tools are essentially reversed with polymer clay - the shapers will very lightly grip the clay while the metal tools slide ride off it. Should be interesting. Chaplain Raeven, Bryan Blaire, Lexington and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5057898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Wolves look awesome. Looking forward to seeing your first 'from scratch' model! Bryan Blaire 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5058066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 I got the armature skinned and I may have been a little overconfident with how easily I would transition to a different sculpting medium. It's not quite as bad as trying to use greenstuff for the first time all those years ago, but I really don't like it so far. I do 90% of my sculpting with with shapers and on clay they grab hold of the clay and drag it, forcing me to use metal tools that I am not all that familiar with, so the options for the Phoenix Lords in the immediate future is to continue with the conversions or maybe try sculpting them from scratch with GS instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5061043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Is building basic shapes with styrene first out of the question? Seems like a lot of Greenstuff otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5061151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 There's not really a good way to put styrene on the armature. I dusted off Jain Zar today, literally, and finally got her larger spear blade I made a while back attached. Here's a comparison of the two blades. And all posed up. (BTW, the lines on the new blade are fingerprints I didn't notice until I saw the photos.) I'm going to start working on a sash around her waist and I'm contemplating a loincloth similar to the original, both sculpted to indicate movement. Calyptra, Chaplain Raeven, Noserenda and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5062234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 After several beard attempts with some funky Viking-like styles, I settled on a good ol' tactical beard for the Allfather. And I may end up doing the hair again. *sigh* By Odin's beard! I hope I can get my scratch work up to this! This is AWESOME! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5062252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 HAHA we hae your prints now!! Sans kidding, that armature work is inspired. I hope you can make greenstuff to work on it - I may be a complete noob when it comes to sculpting, but I don't see why you should force yourself to a particular way of doing things or a particular material when you already have something that works for you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278032-bcks-thread-of-stuff-symphony-of-destruction/page/139/#findComment-5063910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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