BCK's Thread of Stuff: Symphony of Destruction

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

Yes, I like this...

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

Let's try this again:

 

http://i.imgur.com/qFXNfN0.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/iOBgYmQ.jpg

 

I also took a little of the extra greentuff and tried my hand at decorating the blade of his polearm:

 

http://i.imgur.com/f9B1419.jpg

[Brother Heinrich]

Man, for some reason I'm really digging that bit of decoration, just exudes the subtle nature of Slaanesh. Keep it up.

[Marshal Rohr]

I couldn't find it covered in the thread, but would you mind telling me where you got the .05 rivets and their style? Like the site you ordered from.

[bloodhound23]

Agreed with Brother Heinrich about the extra design on the halberd blade. It definitely exudes Slaanesh. I also think this version of the back cloak is better than the last take. 

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

Man, for some reason I'm really digging that bit of decoration, just exudes the subtle nature of Slaanesh. Keep it up.

 

Yeah, it's actually the second attempt at it. The first I tried to do something a little more "chaotic" and it just looked bad. This time, I just made it simple and it worked out a lot better.

 

I couldn't find it covered in the thread, but would you mind telling me where you got the .05 rivets and their style? Like the site you ordered from.

 

I bought mine from a local hobby store, not a game store, that sells "real" models, train stuff, and scratch building supplies. I have both Grandt Line and Tichy Train rivets.

 

Agreed with Brother Heinrich about the extra design on the halberd blade. It definitely exudes Slaanesh. I also think this version of the back cloak is better than the last take. 

 

Glad the blade decoration is working for others as well, but I'm still not happy with the rear tabard. :(

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

OK, so I know I said I was going to wait until I was done with the Captain Conversion Challenge before I started working on my Space Wolves ideas, but I was bored, had the modeling itch, and didn't really feel like resculpting Maestoros's bum cover for the third time. Instead, I knocked out a rough sketch pose for one of my two upcoming Pup figures: one in power armor and one in TDA.

 

This one, in power armor, I had originally thought to do a Ragnar Blackmane figure, but the more I thought about it, the more I didn't care for the idea. Why? Because I was planning on making a lot of changes (no way was I gonna do that stupid left shoulder pad) and I really don't want a bunch of angry fluff mongers wagging their fingers at me and telling me that's not what Ragnar looks like. Also, I firmly believe making his abnormally long, tapered chainsword would be a gigantic pain in the Tzeentch.

 

Instead of a charging pose like you usually see Space Wolves in, I wanted something like he's already in the thick of things, hacking down foes left, right and center:

 

http://i.imgur.com/nb0wZ1V.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/dSATKwR.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/7Tl08ja.jpg

 

Not to worry, I have some bits on the way to make him look more Wolfy and I just grabbed up some stuff on my desk to test some posing ideas, but I have to say that I'm really liking the feel that those legs lend to the whole thing. He will also be BCK-Scaled™ once I really get going on this, but what do you think of this early sketch, brothers?

 

Oh, and since I am now moving away from the Ragnar idea, I need to choose a new Great Company for these guys to be in. The two I'm thinking of are Egil Iron Wolf and Harald Deathwolf, both because I like their names and their company icon. Hmmm... which one to choose?

 

-BCK

 

Edit: Looks like I accidentally deleted the wrong third picture. Hmmm. I didn't mean for those two to be so similar.

Edited August 16, 2013 by Brother Chaplain Kage

[ephrael]

I like the pose and the idea on the wolf model, I just hope the bits you have on the way make him look a lot more Space Wolf than this mock up.   I vote for the Iron Wolf's great company.  I've always been a fan of the icon and it gives you an excuse to include some bionics and possibly an unusual pelt on him.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

I like the pose and the idea on the wolf model, I just hope the bits you have on the way make him look a lot more Space Wolf than this mock up.   I vote for the Iron Wolf's great company.  I've always been a fan of the icon and it gives you an excuse to include some bionics and possibly an unusual pelt on him.

 

*cough* Yes, definitely more wolfy once the bits arrive. *cough*  Plus, there will be a whole lot of greenstuff work for pelts and trophies and whatnot.

 

After looking at the icon again, I think I have to agree with you on Iron Wolf. I actually like the other one better, but it would be more difficult to sculpt and this way, I can get away with adding more rivets. ;)  There's also a neat little tidbit about how the trim on the shoulder bearing the badge of the Iron Wolf is an iron color instead of the usual gold/bronze.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

A friend of mine asked for a better picture of the axe, so I thought I'd post the pics up here as well. Here it is next to a normal Space Wolves power axe for comparison.

 

http://i.imgur.com/WAVV573.jpg

 

It was originally a double-headed axe from the first Masters of the Chapter set, and I had to get two replacements of that figure from GW because the axe and other parts were severely deformed. The two heads of the aquila were practically nonexistent and there was a giant void where I cut away the right axe head. Here's a shot of the back of it, giving a better idea of the void:

 

http://i.imgur.com/WcdKgUY.jpg

 

The molded on parchment decoration will be removed and something more suitably Space Wolves put in its place sometime later.

 

-BCK

[ephrael]

I like the axe and it should be relatively easy to customize for a space wolf look.  Those Masters of the Chapter come with some really nice bare heads for space marines too.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

I like the axe and it should be relatively easy to customize for a space wolf look.  Those Masters of the Chapter come with some really nice bare heads for space marines too.

 

Indeed, they have some great bare heads and I'd probably use them if I didn't have an issue with bare headed marines 99.8% of the time.

 

So, I was looking around the interwebz for some inspiration on how to bling out this axe some. I didn't want to sculpt anything "wolf" on it. At all. I mean, how many wolf-related icons and symbols can you cram on a marine before the enemy shouts "OK! I GET IT! YOU'RE A SPACE WOLF!"?

 

I found a few nice things along these lines:

 

http://i.imgur.com/Nbd4X4K.jpg?1

 

Something like this would be awesome if I was working on a larger surface, but there's not a whole lot of real estate on that axe head and any sort of knotwork would probably have to be done in the painting stage. But the more I looked at these bearded axes, the more I thought I wanted to do something a little different for this guy, because he is most likely a Wolf Guard and maybe even a Wolf Lord and needs to stand out from the pack (haha) a little bit.

 

On one of my searches, I came across this axe:

 

http://i.imgur.com/yRNAQk7.jpg?1

 

A double bearded axe. I think that just might do the trick. I go back to my work table, find the other blade I cut off of this double headed axe and with a few cuts of the X-acto and a quick pinning for stability, I come up with something. Here it is with the same Space Wolves power axe as before for comparison:

 

http://i.imgur.com/Sqkl86X.jpg

 

 

And on the figure:

 

http://i.imgur.com/41h07kX.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/cpYVmpe.jpg

 

Whatcha think, brothers?

 

-BCK

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

So, my bits package arrived today while I was at work and subsequently, I have updates.

 

First is the previous Space Wolf figure with more work on the axe and a wolfy torso and belt:

 

http://i.imgur.com/s6EOewe.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/x4EhjRI.jpg

 

I may have to trim the belt down some since it kinda makes him look like he's got a mjod gut, but it seems to fit well otherwise. The knife on the belt is also getting in the way so that will probably have to go. I used Mr. Surfacer to fill in the gaps on the axe, which is a hell of a lot better than greenstuff for that sort of thing.

 

Next up is my TDA Wolf Guard/Lone Wolf/Wolf Lord using the Arjac Rockfist figure as a base:

 

http://i.imgur.com/sDnixTh.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/PmFeuCS.jpg

 

Now, this is all just a pose sketch to see how things look, and at a later point the Cataphractii lightning claw will be separated from the shoulder and he'll have two normal terminator shoulder pads. I'll probably tweak the position of the arms and legs to be a little closer to what I'm seeing in my head, which will be a snap with finecast.   As you can see, I've already trimmed the anvil from the top of the armor and a lot of his other decorations will also be leaving. I like it so far but it needs work.

 

 

And finally... an update for Maestoros. I got the power armored FW Legion Praetor, and I don't know how many of you can relate to this, but have you ever been in the midst of a conversion and you see a new part that might change everything?

 

Well, that happened today with the Praetor's sword arm, which I couldn't resist trying out on Maestoros to see how it fit, and it changed everything.

 

http://i.imgur.com/9oCIuPU.jpg?1  http://i.imgur.com/yRlwGM0.jpg

 

I can almost smell the arrogance oozing off of him.

 

Opinions, brothers?

 

-BCK

 

 

[ephrael]

The two Wolves are looking good so far.  I like the new shape of the axe, I'm going to have to try that Mr. Surfacer for just that type of work.  I haven't found a gap filler I like yet.  The Praetor's sword does make Maestoros look really menacing.  I would try lowering his left arm so that the head of the polearm is pointing ahead or slightly down.  It will make him look even more casual and unconcerned about the opponent he is about to face.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

The two Wolves are looking good so far.  I like the new shape of the axe, I'm going to have to try that Mr. Surfacer for just that type of work.  I haven't found a gap filler I like yet.  The Praetor's sword does make Maestoros look really menacing.  I would try lowering his left arm so that the head of the polearm is pointing ahead or slightly down.  It will make him look even more casual and unconcerned about the opponent he is about to face.

 

Mr. Surfacer is great! It's basically plastic that's been melted and remains in a liquid form, and it's lacquer based so you'll need lacquer thinner for clean up of brushes, etc. It's also popular to create surface textures, like the rough cast markings on WWII tanks and such.

 

You know, I think Maestors's arm was originally lower, but the blue tac I have is garbage and it's always a race against time to get pictures before everything starts falling apart. I didn't even notice how close the left arm was to falling off in that picture until you mentioned it.

[bloodhound23]

I have to say, I don't love the choice of the legs on the Space Wolf, seems overly Blood Angels to me, especially with the fancy rope. Everything else ('specially the axe  ) rules, though. Maestoros looks like a pretentious scumbag now, which I think is perfect. Can't wait to see more of your stuff. 

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

I have to say, I don't love the choice of the legs on the Space Wolf, seems overly Blood Angels to me, especially with the fancy rope. Everything else ('specially the axe  ) rules, though. Maestoros looks like a pretentious scumbag now, which I think is perfect. Can't wait to see more of your stuff. 

 

 

Oh, not to worry! All of the Blood Angels decorations will be removed from those legs once I get the pose nailed down and figure out just what I'm going to do as far as pelts and other wolfy stuffs go. I'm glad you like the axe, as I'm rather fond of it myself. It was one of those great spur of the moment decisions that turned out really well. Love it when that happens.

 

Pretentious scumbag... yes, I like that and it fits the idea I have of Maestoros in my head really well. Since these will essentially be display models, I've been thinking of doing a big base for him at a later point, with a body underfoot and more scattered around him.

 

But I bring an update of a different kind tonight! I have accepted a sculpting commission, my very first (and only my second commission ever), from Mikhail. For the past 10 days we've been shooting PMs back and forth about it. God-Emperor help us both.

 

It will be a Dark Angel company champion with some interesting alterations to his armor, which I won't go into just yet, but he'll be striding forward with confidence and purpose, armed with a power sword and shield. Here's some pics I took to do some doodling on in Photoshop later to really make sure I'm giving him what he wants before I start in with the knives, files, and putty:

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/rGuiIfH.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/8PEBeyS.jpg

 

One tidbit about the armor I will give is that the front of the legs will be completely resculpted, which is why the armor has been shaved down.

 

Edit: The head I just tossed on for the pics. We both forgot to think to have him send more than the legs and torso to make sure whatever I sculpt fits with the arms he has in mind, and he'll be sending them soon.

 

-BCK

Edited August 19, 2013 by Brother Chaplain Kage

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

A little more progress on the commission:

 

http://i.imgur.com/fl6snaJ.jpg?1

 

The idea for the legs was to keep the overall look of the MK II, but to give the greaves the appearance of having been repaired or possibly up-armored over the years. Mikhail was happy with the test sculpting of the new armor plate so I'll get the second done soon. Rivets will be added to the places marked on the inner and outer sides of the new armor plate.

[GrandMagnus]

Maestoros is by far the most awesome on this thread. Nice conversions.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

Maestoros is by far the most awesome on this thread. Nice conversions.

 

Yes, he is becoming my pride and joy. And I bring a small update before I go run errands and stuff:

 

http://i.imgur.com/eo5cR1E.jpg

 

Added some IW-ish trim on his left foot and right greave, and even though the camera wasn't cooperating with my attempts to get everything in focus, I did some work on the blade, cleaning up up some rough spots and making the fuller deeper and more pronounced.

[ephrael]

I like the additional detail on the foot and greave,it will help tie him in with the Iron Warriors in a more subtle way than a bunch of cybernetic limbs.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

I think it got erased in the database crash, but I had mentioned that their IW icon has a cogwheel around it, and that they decorate their armor in various places with that theme.

 

But Maestoros is so good, he still has all of his original limbs. :D

[ephrael]

I think it got erased in the database crash, but I had mentioned that their IW icon has a cogwheel around it, and that they decorate their armor in various places with that theme.

 

But Maestoros is so good, he still has all of his original limbs.

The database crash is like a mini Age of Strife, so much knowledge was lost we'll be recovering and cataloging it for months to come.  I like the additional cog idea.

 

Maestoros is starting to sound like a defector from the Emperor's Children or a marine created from their stolen gene-seed.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

The database crash is like a mini Age of Strife, so much knowledge was lost we'll be recovering and cataloging it for months to come.  I like the additional cog idea.

 

Maestoros is starting to sound like a defector from the Emperor's Children or a marine created from their stolen gene-seed.

 

LOL, I like that... mini Age of Strife.

 

In everything I've read about the IWs, they were always reputed to be masterful close combat fighters due to the nature of the siege warfare they love so much. I figure a few of them would eventually come to stand head and shoulders above their brothers in that regard. It could also be like you suggest, since we know that in the present 40k timeline, chaos marines and the Iron Warriors in particular are known to steal geneseed to keep their numbers up.

[ephrael]

I agree that some of the IW would have to be experts in close combat, too bad they are usually portrayed as lumbering brutes or on the verge of becoming berzerkers in the fiction.  I don't know about skilled swordsmen like the DA though, that's probably beyond their meagre talents.   I don't want to suggest too much about your character's disreputable past though.  I already spend way too much time reading or cruising the forums when I should be painting.