+++Fleets of the Heresy III +++

[Kol Saresk]

Bummer, but thanks

[Atia]

Nice work so far!

 

The Nicor was also a unique Raven Guard Ship (and after the Heresy a Carcharodons Ship) 

Horus Heresy part I: Betrayal

[Kol Saresk]

Are they the same ship> I ask because it wouldn't be the first example of two ships sharing the same name in the background. I believe the BFG sources have more than a few examples.

[Olis]

Assuming the provenance of the name, and the lineage of the Carcharadons, I would assume it's the same ship - but you know what they say about making assumptions... ^_^

[SFH]

Some updates on ship status for Damnation of Pythos. Spoilers, so be warned.

 

Veritas Ferrum

Iron Hands

Strike cruiser

Space Marine Captain Durun Atticus.

Status: destroyed by a lance strike directed at a Chaos temple on Pythos being deflected back at the ship. Rebuilt as a daemon ship.

 

Callidora

Emperor's Children

Battle barge

Space Marine Captain Kleos

Status: destroyed by the Iron Hands 11th Clan Company

 

Infinite Sublime

Emperor's Children

Escort (unknown type)

Captain unknown

Status: destroyed by Iron Hands 11th Clan Company

 

Golden Mean

Emperor's Children

Escort (unknown type)

Captain unknown

Status: destroyed by Iron Hands 11th Clan Company

[Dono1979]

This is a fantastic job guys, a great resource!!

I am in the midst of trying to setup a 30K BFG Crusade list to be used at some of our events in Australia and this is going to be invaluable, thank you again.

[Vesper]

Hey Captain, got more SoH ships from Talon of Horus :

 

His Chosen Son : destroyed and left adrift in the Eye of Terror.

Baleful Eye : Falkus Kibre's flagship, destroyed in the Eye of Terror by the Emperor's Children.

Royal Spear : Part of Kibre's fleet, destroyed in the Eye of Terror by the Emperor's Children.

Rise of the Three Suns : Part of Kibre's fleet, Destroyed by catastrophous warp core ignition while fleeing from Emperor's Children ambush in the Eye of Terror. Salvaged by Niobia Halo forces.

 

All are Cruisers.

Edited September 7, 2014 by Vesper

[Perrin]

More from Talon of Horus:

 

Tlaloc - Thousand Sons - Cruiser - Destroyed in the Eye of Terror during the Legion Wars

 

Tlaloc is definitely active under the Thousand Sons during the Heresy. The others below aren't 100%, they could have changed hands between the Heresy and when they appear in ToH. The class of ship is just what they're described as in the book, sorry I can't be of more help.

 

Jaws of the White Wolf - World Eaters - Cruiser - Destroyed in the Eye of Terror during the Legion Wars

Thane - Iron Warriors - Heavy Cruiser - Active

Fury of the First Legion - Fallen Dark Angels - Destroyer - Active

Perfection's Lament - Emperor's Children - Class Unknown - Status Unknown

 

Pulchritudinous (also known as the Fleshmarket) - Emperor's Children - Lunar-Class Cruiser, Halcyon-variant Hull - Status Unknown

 

 

Tlaloc is definitely active during the Heresy under the Thousand Sons. Pulchritudinous was birthed in the shipyards of Mars, so I'm confident that it is a Heresy-Era EC ship. The other ships aren't confirmed to have flown under the same flag during the Heresy as they do in Talon of Horus. Fury of the First Legion is a Fallen ship, so it may be safe to say that it was a DA ship during the HH, but I'll leave that decision up to Fleet Archivist Captain Semper

 

The only one I can confirm 100% is the Tlaloc.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Perrin

[Kol Saresk]

Since its the Legion Wars and what the Traitor Legions have is what they went in with, it is more than a logical conclusion those are Heresy ships.

[Captain Semper]

OK guys - will try to update this ASAP. 

 

Keep 'em coming! :D

[Perrin]

Since its the Legion Wars and what the Traitor Legions have is what they went in with, it is more than a logical conclusion those are Heresy ships.

 

Sure, but what I meant was they may have changed hands since the Heresy. Especially with disorganised Legions like the EC and WE who are now just warbands, they may have lost their own ship and taken one from another Legion's warband.

 

Like, the Tlaloc is definitely Thousand Sons during the Heresy, but Jaws of the White Wolf could have belonged to another Legion before the World Eaters had it. Then it again it could have been theirs since the HH, the text doesn't make it absolutely certain.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Perrin

[Kol Saresk]

Ah, okay. I see what you mean now.

[Ordo Machinum]

Here's a class update for the Retribution Fleet's flagship:

 

Name:   Tribune (Flagship of the Retribution Fleet)
Class:   Victory class (modified)
Type:   Battle Barge (approximately 7.5 kilometres long - based on a constant scale picture with a 15 km Iron Warrior's flagship, Iron Blood)
Source2: Horus Heresy Book III - Extermination by Alan Bligh [bL]

 

[Vesper]

No update, Semper ?

[Atia]

Are they the same ship> I ask because it wouldn't be the first example of two ships sharing the same name in the background. I believe the BFG sources have more than a few examples.

 

Yes it's the same ship ;). And it's like the Terminus Est an unique one 

[Outlander90]

Ships from Forgeworld's Horus Heresy Book IV Conquest:

 

Warning: Contains Spoilers.

Malin Dawn, Gladiator Class Frigate, Emperor's Children Legion, Status: Badly damaged and almost without power, Location: Gethsamaine System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 23]

Gaius Herab, Primary Defence Monitor, Gethsamaine Fleet, Status: Lost, Location: Gethsamaine System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 23]

 

Brazen Bull, Primary Defence Monitor, Gethsamaine Fleet, Status: Lost, Location: Gethsamaine System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 23]

 

507th Attack Squadron, 4 x Havoc Class Heavy Destroyer, Imperialis Armada, 63rd Expeditionary Fleet, Status: One heavy destroyer lost; others active, Location: Gethsamaine System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 23]

 

Ikon, Eclipse Class Battlecruiser, Sons of Horus Legion, Status: Active, Location: Gethsamaine System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 23]

 

Unknown ship, Dolmar Class Mass Conveyor, Status: Disappeared, Location: Zavarich System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 24]

 

Khabir, Lunar Class Cruiser, Imperialis Armada, Status: Active, Location: Dark Haven System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 27]

 

Sceptre of Iron, Retribution Class Battleship, Imperialis Armada, Status: Destroyed, Location: Lascal System, Grail Abyss, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 28]

 

Ozymandias, Retribution Class Battleship, Imperialis Armada, Status: Destroyed, Location: Lascal System, Grail Abyss, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 28]

 

Star Tamer, Retribution Class Battleship, Imperialis Armada, Status: Destroyed, Location: Lascal System, Grail Abyss, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 28]

 

XVIIth 'Sun Dragons' Cruiser Squadron, Imperialis Armada, Status: Active, Location: Lascal System, Grail Abyss, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 28]

 

Pride of Hemicron, Lance Cruiser, Imperialis Armada, Status: Destroyed, Location: Dominica Minor System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 30]

 

Reaper's Scythe, Heavy Capital Class Warship, Death Guard Legion, Status: Active, Location: Dominica Minor System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 30]

 

Spectre of Death, Heavy Capital Class Warship, Death Guard Legion, Status: Active, Location: Dominica Minor System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 30]

 

Mia Donna Mori, Heavy Capital Class Warship, Death Guard Legion, Status: Active, Location: Dominica Minor System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 30]

 

Dread (formerly Winter's Oath), Battle Barge, Death Guard Legion (formerly Iron Hands Legion), Status: Active, Location: Dominica Minor System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 30]

 

Spear of Umbriel, Goliath Class Battleship, Imperialis Armada, Status: Destroyed, Location: Dominica Minor System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 30]

 

The Fourth Horseman, Assault Ship, Death Guard Legion, Status: Active, Location: Dominica Minor System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 30]

 

Red Polyphemus, Space Hulk, Orks and Gyre-Worms, Status: Destroyed, Location: Vlorlath Srader System, Manachea Commonwealth, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 37]

 

The Desolation, Heavy Warship, Sons of Horus Legion, Status: Active, Manachea System, Manachea Commonwealth, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 42]

 

King Eater, Battle Barge, Sons of Horus Legion, Status: Active, Manachea System, Manachea Commonwealth, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 42]

 

The Oblivion, Heavy Warship, Sons of Horus Legion, Status: Active, Manachea System, Manachea Commonwealth, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 42]

 

Gore Prow, Heavy Warship, Sons of Horus Legion, Status: Active, Manachea System, Manachea Commonwealth, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 42]

 

Bone Jackal, Heavy Warship, Sons of Horus Legion, Status: Active, Manachea System, Manachea Commonwealth, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 42]

 

Triumph of Reason later renamed The Lash, Two Reforged Legatus Class Macro-Battleships, Port Maw Armada, Imperialis Armada, Commander: Grand Admiral Ospheus LaBray later Captain Taloc Thorne of the Sons of Horus Legion, Status: Captured, Location: Port Maw, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 46]

 

Kurga, Dictatus Class Ram-Battleship, Port Maw Armada, Imperialis Armada, Status: Active, Location: Port Maw, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 46]

 

Arithmetic of Violence, Cyclothrathine War-Ark, Cyclothrathe Fleet, Status: Active, Location: Port Maw, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 47]

 

Telemachus, Cruiser, Agathean Fleet, Status: Crippled, Location: Agathean Domain, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 54]

 

Red Talon, Grand Cruiser, Iron Hands Legion, Commander: Autek Mor, Status: Active, Location: Gethsamaine System, Cyclops Cluster, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 55]

 

Hammer of the Deep, Rogue Trader Galleass, Rogue Trader, Commander: Rogue Trader Militant Charid Undine (former), Status: Captured by Loyalists, Location: Numinal System, Coronid Reach, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 56]

 

Sacra Astra, Forge Crusier, Cyclothrathe Fleet, Status: Active, Location: Numinal System, Coronid Reach, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 57]

 

Warlock, Unknown class, Salamanders Legion (formerly Night Lord Legion), Status: Active,  Location: Numinal System, Coronid Reach, Coronid Deeps. [Pg. 162]

 

Eon of Stone, Frigate, Imperial Fists Legion, Status: Active, Location: Unknown. [Pg. 189]

 

Cymbaline, Destroyer, Loyalist Allegiance, Status: Destroyed, Location: Unknown. [Pg. 205] 

Edited December 5, 2014 by Outlander90

[Dono1979]

Fantastic resource guys, really enjoying following this.

 

I was just wondering whether there is anything in the more recent fluff in regards to the Armoured Prow issue. Everyone I speak to about Heresy era ships immediately say that the Armoured Prow is a more modern aspect and that any ship with an Armoured Prow couldnt be a Heresy Era class, but couldnt really expand on why armoured prows were only post Heresy.  However the Retribution and Apocalypse class ships both have Armoured Prows and appear to be Heresy Era ships?

 

Is there evidence in the recent HH books of Armoured Prows?

[Outlander90]

Ships from Black Library's Novella The Purge:

Righteous Fury, Flagship Unknown Class (Possibly Battleship), Ultramarines Legion, Commander: Admiral Solontine, Status: Destroyed, Location: Percepton System, Ultramar. 

 

Fist of Ultramar, Unknown Class, Ultramarines Legion, Status: Destroyed, Location: Percepton System, Ultramar. 

 

Sanctified, Cruiser, Word Bearers Legion, Status: Active, Location: Percepton System, Ultramar. 

[helterskelter]

From a safe and shadowed place by guy haley

 

night lords vessels

 

Umber prince

Dominus Noctem

Shadow Blow

Nycton

Impossible Dawn

Deepest Dark

[Hesh Kadesh]

Eagle's Talon

- Eagle's Talon, Macro Transporter, presumed Iron Warriors (won't spoil fate just yet)

[Rolltonotdie]

Not sure if its been spotted already but under IV Legion the Tyche's Lament is listed as Tycho's Lament?

[Olis]

While I'm here, in Seventh Serpent there was the;

 

Sigma, Class unknown, Strike Cruiser, Note: Flagship of Legate Chaitin. Status: Destroyed

Zeta Morgeld, Class unknown, Type unknown, Note: Twelve years old as of Seventh Serpent. Status: Destroyed

Theta Malquiant, Class unknown, Type unknown, Note: One year younger than the Zeta Morgeld. Noted as having a larger displacement than the Sisypheum. Status: Destroyed

Sisypheum, Class unknown, Strike Cruiser, Status: Active

Iron Heart, Class unknown, Strike Cruiser, Note: Possibly an Alpha Legion vessel with Iron Heart as her identifier, rather than the actual Iron Heart. Commissioned 808.M30. Status: Destroyed

Malleus Ferrum, Class unknown, Thunderhawk

 

Nu Synesios, Class unknown, Imperial Bulk Fuel Carrier, Note: Falsely listed as destroyed 256003.M31

[BloodFox]

Not sure if this is relevant, but while this thread is listing out the ships present in the heresy and their final fate, what about the fleets? What Legion had which Expeditionary Fleet, what ships were part of which fleet, where/when did that fleet die, etc. Would this be something to add to this thread or would it get its own? Or is it even possible? I don't know really, I only own a few of the HH novels from Black Library and am waiting on my rule books to arrive from Forge World. The Black Library books that I have read seem kind of vague on the subject.

[Olis]

That's an interesting thought, BloodFox. Not sure if there's much information to use atm but it would be useful to have at hand, I think.

[Captain Semper]

First off I need to apologise from being absent for some time from this thread... I will get cracking to update it ASAP.

 

Secondly, I think BloodFox's idea is great. Do you think you can help out to get it going? There are tons of expeditionary fleets mentioned in the HH literature and we can certainly start cataloguing them.

 

So I'll be updating the lists and reverting soon.