+++Fleets of the Heresy III +++

[Captain Semper]

Right, I have updated up to post 157 and will try to do the rest later today (intimidating a task as it is...) :D

[Olis]

If I may make a suggestion - we may need to start making a master list of the novels/stories that have already been used in our research. That way we don't have to go through the same publications again and again when someone else has already done it. :)

[Conn Eremon]

I do recall the XIII Legion having the 12th Expeditionary Fleet, and the XII the 13th. Such a curious swap, so it stuck in my head.

 

To give proper references:

 

"As the early decades of the Great Crusade progressed, and the first of the Primarchs were found, the XIIth Legion was broken up temporarily into a number of independent sub-commands, each several thousand Space Marines strong. The largest of which, at some 8,000 War Hounds, along with some dedicated assault and fleet support elements was dedicated the 13th Expeditionary Fleet, or the 'Bloody 13th' as it became quickly known."

-- Betrayal, pg 86

 

"By the year 833.M30, the XIIIth Legion had increased in number to an active force of around 33,000 Space Marines, whose primary battle group now consisted of the autonomous 12th Expeditionary Fleet."

-- Tempest, pg 73

[ZebraM]

In 'Wolf King' it's mentioned that the Hrafnkel is a Gloriana glass battleship and the only one in the Space Wolves fleet. Also the Ragnarok, Nighoggur, Fenrysavar and Russvangum are listed as line battleships and presumably the only such battleships left in the Space Wolves fleet after its crippling by the Alpha Legion. The Ragnarok is also captined by Lord Gunn until it's destroyed during the battle with the Alpha Legion. The Iota Malaphelos is also captured during the battle and is now part of the Wolves fleet.

[noigrim]

For those of you interested, in the powers of chaos supplement of BFG came the rules for the vengeful spirit ("standard" gloriana class) and the conqueror so you can still play BFG-heresy, nothin more than a buffed battleship back then.

 

The cruisers are limited to luna class, strike and a chaos if you want to be puritan about the designs.

Edited October 15, 2015 by noigrim

[Chaplian Belphoron]

I think that I read somewherethat the Eternal Crusader was operational at This point.

[Captain Semper]

OK, that's a HUGE necromancy!

 

 

 

HOWEVER, the HH is over - and although the Siege of Terra is still in development, we might try to resurrect this thread and attempt the definitive list of all the ships mentioned in the HH series, now that have every single book!

 

If there is an interest that'll be great, otherwise, I'll lock this thread...

[Beren]

I'd be interested.

[Canadian_F_H]

We now know that the Eternal Crusader is and always was a Gloriana Battleship that the Black Templar's have as their flag ship because it was in the IF fleet during the heresy.  I don't know if it had a different name at the time, but...

 

"Black Legion" by ADB spoiler

 

it is pretty explicit in "black legion" which is a post heresy novel, that Abaddon et al recognizes the Eternal crusader as the sister ship of the Vengeful Spirit, and despite their being lost in the eye for a thousand years, they knew the ship.  i think they even knew the name, which means that at least during the scouring the ship was called the EC, if not during the heresy. 

 

anyways, the ship is missing from the IF list. is confirmed to be a Gloriana Class, might have not been named "Eternal Crusader" during the HH, or even the Scouring.

 

I suspect the EC was assigned to the 1st company "templars" under Sigismund during the scouring if not the heresy but that is merely speculation on my part.

Edited September 23, 2019 by Canadian_F_H

[MegaVolt87]

At this point its safe to have every legion flag ship as capital class, Gloriana for starters. 

[Beren]

I noticed that this appears to have been missed from Horus Heresy: Betrayal

 

"Having refused the order to surrender, the Mechanicum Ordo Reductor Galleas Xerxes 9-7-7, a vessel that had joined the fleet late and was not part of the Warmaster's plans, also had to be shot down at considerable cost to its attackers, it's disintegrating hulk descending into Istvaan III's burning skies and lost amidst the flames."

 

This was the vessel of Magos Reductor Calleb Decima.

 

I don't see any ships from Conquest onwards, so I might give those a look over later.

[bluntblade]

My suspicion is that the Monarch of Fire becomes the Eternal Crusader.

[bluntblade]

Have we mentioned, in the XVI^th Legion fleet, the Throne of the Underworld (Horus Aximand's flagship) and the Solar Auxilia ship Thunder Break, attached to the SoH's 63rd Expeditionary Fleet?

[Beren]

From Horus Heresy: Conquest (Got through the Scourging of the Cyclops Cluster section.)

 

Name-The Malin Dawn

Faction-The Emperor's Children(Loyalist)

Class-Gladiator Class Frigate

Type-Escort

Notes-Successfully escaped the Massacre and Istvaan III, but a World Eaters boarding action resulted in the crews slaughter during transit. Last known status was as an abandoned hulk in the Gethsamaine System.

 

Name-The Brazen Bull

Faction-Imperialis Armada

Class-???

Type-System Defence Monitor

Notes-One of two primary Defence Monitors for the Gethsamaine system. Status: Destroyed in the Sons of Horus' initial attack on the Gethsamaine system.

 

 

Name-Gaius Herab

Faction-Imperialis Armada

Class-???

Type-System Defence Monitor

Notes-One of two primary Defence Monitors for the Gethsamaine system. Status: Destroyed in the Sons of Horus' initial attack on the Gethsamaine system.

 

Name-Ikon

Faction-Sons of Horus

Class-Eclipse Class Battlecruiser

Type-Battlecruiser

Notes- Status: Active

 

Name-Khabir

Faction-Imperialis Armada

Class-Lunar Class Cruiser

Type-Cruiser

Notes- Operated out of Dominica Minor, Status: Active  

 

Name-Sceptre of Iron

Faction-Imperialis Armada

Class-Retribution class battleship.

Type-Battleship

Notes- Stationed at Lascal, Status: Destroyed in the Death Guard assault on Lascal.

 

 

Name-Ozymandias

Faction-Imperialis Armada

Class-Retribution class battleship.

Type-Battleship

Notes- Stationed at Lascal, Status: Destroyed in the Death Guard assault on Lascal.

 

Name-Star Tamer

Faction-Imperialis Armada

Class-Retribution class battleship.

Type-Battleship

Notes- Stationed at Lascal, Status: Destroyed in the Death Guard assault on Lascal.

 

Name-Pride of Hemicron

Faction-Imperialis Armada

Class-???

Type-Lance Crusier

Notes-Stationed at Dominica Minor, Status: Destroyed in the Death Guard assault on Dominica Minor.

 

Name-Dread(renamed)

Faction-Death Guard

Class-???

Type-Battlebarge

Notes-Formerly the Winter's Oath of the Iron Hands Legion, Status:Active

 

Name-Spear of Umbriel

Faction-Imperialis Armada

Class-Goliath Class Battleship

Type-Battleship

Notes-Stationed at Dominica Prime, Status: Destroyed by a ramming attack from the Death Guard's The Fourth Horseman at Dominca Prime.

Edited September 28, 2019 by Beren

[timdp]

Here are a few new Dark Angel ships from the Primarch series: Lion El’Jonson, Lord of the First. I assume they are all capital ships, but there are no other descriptions. I see an Amadis strike cruiser in the list, but have no idea whether its the same ship as the one listed below.

 

Forest Sepulchre  (2nd largest ship in the 2003rd Expedition Fleet after Invincible Reason) - (Lion El’Jonson, Lord of the First p137)

Oaken Throne (Master of the Ravenwing: Garradin) - (Lion El’Jonson, Lord of the First p137)

 

Sar Amadis (Master of the Stormwing: Brigaint) - (Lion El’Jonson, Lord of the First p137)

Edited January 18, 2021 by timdp