Hyaenidae Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I gotcha, bro. Just saying yellow and white is my direction, and one shouldn't get too caught up in it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3543177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywarcrimes Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Thiel only had it because Roboute got an incomplete explanation for why some Night Lords had red gauntlets. The Know No Fear happened, and the XIIIth legion changed the meaning of the red helmet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3543275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamafore Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Collected Visions had a re-release? Where can I find it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3545990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Collected Visions had a re-release? Where can I find it? Black Library. Look for the super-expensive, sold out $250 set of novels. Or go to Amazon and look for the $70 Visions of Treachery(I believe that's the title) that has yet to be released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3546008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Honestly, my Watch will retain yellow helms across the board (line brethren and vets), and my Sergeants will either take white helms or gold trim on their plate to mark them out. Red on yellow is so damn ugly, IMO (Yeah, that includes the BA's weird yellow helms). White and yellow looks so much better. If all fails when the IF HH stuff comes out and shoots my idea full of holes, I'll retain that it was a Unification-era mark that was kept out of respect of those who came before. Hey, hey, just because the IX have an apreciation of the finer things in life like bold colour schemes and exceptional basket weaving ,doesn't mean you shave pates in the IV and VII get to insult our sartorial elegance. *sigh* Fulgrim would have understood... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3546964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 In regards to the blood and bone theme for helmets it could have started before Dorn was found and as time went on only the veterans wore red helmets. Also the sentinels of terra book puts vets who have served as sternguard in black helmets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3547571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Templar Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 Also the sentinels of terra book puts vets who have served as sternguard in black helmets. A lot of HH elite units are use black in their colour scheme, Justerin, Catulan Reavers, Dorns Templars etc. I may make my elites wear black helms with a white stripe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Have we seen Dorn's Templars yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Templar Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 Have we seen Dorn's Templars yet? I'm sure they're described in the Night Lords audio as wearing black, at least their pauldrons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Night Lords audio..... The Dark King by Graham McNeil? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 If I recall correctly, they are Imperial Fists who wear Sigismund's sigil on the other pauldron, and who wear those . . . Drapes . . . Things . . . .whatever that 40k BTs wear. So gold armor, right pauldron with the cross, and bathrobe. I can check Riven in an hour, other sources will have to wait until tonight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Here is the relevant piece, in spoilers The Space Marine who had removed Crius’s helm wore yellow armour with a black-on-white cruciform device on his shoulder. There was a stillness about him that reminded Crius of the memorial statues that guarded the graves of the honoured dead.Imperial Fists, he thought. The praetorians of Terra. Of course.The Imperial Fists legionary stepped back, and Crius saw a second figure standing further back, watching in silence, his armour swathed in a white tabard crossed with black, his hand resting upon the pommel of a sheathed sword. He looked into the figure’s hard, cold sapphire eyes. All the other sources I can recall match that, I believe. Just so you know, the second figure is Sigismund, while the other guy is a plain jane Templar. So to be accurate, you'd be a typical Imperial Fist. The only aspects of 40k Black Templars that you would see is that the left shoulderpad with the Chapter device is now on the right shoulder, as the left would have the Imperial Fist device, and the tabards would still be present. Honestly, that sounds a super-freaking awesome color scheme to me. Using B&C's Army Painter, here is the color scheme from what I can gather. Please note, rather than looking for those perfect shades of yellow and such, I just grabbed the most obviously named ones like Golden Yellow and Bleached Bone and went with it. It might not be "perfect" Imperial Fist colors, but it serves its purpose. EDIT: Oh, and here is the relevant bit in Dark King: He looked up again as he heard his own name, given voice by awarrior in the golden plate armour of the Imperial Fists who borethe black and white heraldry of its First Captain.He knew this warrior too...‘Curze!’ cried Sigismund. ‘What have you done?’ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 That looks really good. The muted yellow fits just right with the bone tabard, and the black and red prevent it from being monotonous. Mmmmm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I don't have the official fluff handy right now but when you look at Helbrecht's armour's shinguards and backpack, it looks like it's supposed to be a mkII with a tabard and gorget. The 'Eavy Metal guys always painted it golden, and while i don't know if the GW guys gave it even that much consideration, it would be a nice touch if it's a suit from those ancient days of yore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 That looks really good. The muted yellow fits just right with the bone tabard, and the black and red prevent it from being monotonous. Mmmmm. Ya got a fetish for tabards do ya? :D ....they are the last say in fashion in the 30th millenium. Comfortable and killy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3548890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Marines look best in robes and hoods. Just look at my avatar. Awesomeness. Monks in spaaaaaacccceeee! Tabards are a close second, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Is it weird I prefer flesh cloaks? Now I want to see a duster made out of skinned hide....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Fabius Bile is the man for full-length fleshy coats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Is it weird I prefer flesh cloaks? Now I want to see a duster made out of skinned hide....... Only problem is that its like seude. spill a little wine or blood on it and its ruined :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Is it weird I prefer flesh cloaks? Now I want to see a duster made out of skinned hide....... Only problem is that its like seude. spill a little wine or blood on it and its ruined I think of it more like a worn canvas; it adds flavor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Is it weird I prefer flesh cloaks? Now I want to see a duster made out of skinned hide....... Only problem is that its like seude. spill a little wine or blood on it and its ruined I think of it more like a worn canvas; it adds flavor. Do you... I mean... Eat... Naaah. But I wonder... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Merry Christmas honey I bought you a tasty flayed skin skirt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 In the grimdarkness of the far future, edible apparel has lost a lot of its appeal. Except for some. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Babies. The other other white meat. I want my babyback babyback babyback ribs... And now for our special guest: Jeff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Jeff has awoken the 13th black crusade retreats! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/284394-hh-imperial-fists-helmet-colour/page/2/#findComment-3549479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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