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[Black_out]

Welcome, Captain Von!

 

As to the techmarine question, imo as part of a heresy era force I don't see why they wouldn't be like any other techmarine with red armor etc. The NL were still a functional legion after all and probably had a plethora of all the specialized marines, apothecary, techmarine etc. Just go with what you like!

[ThatOneMarshal]

Hmm this talk of techmarines has got me intereseted for modeling opportunities for a forgelord. I like the idea of having the techmarine just replacing parts of his body all for the sake of Terror. For a helmet maybe do something similar to deltrain with a skull mask? Maybe use a necron head?

 

Can't wait to see the model noctus

[Kol Saresk]

 

 

I also have an odd observation, in that the novels I've seen for 40k night Lords don't actually seem to have a techmarine or know one, talos has the magos Deltrian(sp?) And the ones in red tithe have a "heretek".

And i always thought the nature of techmarine would blend well with the NL personality

It's probably wherever the dice fell in terms of survival. Like Talos was his warband's apothecary. But because they needed warriors more than apothecaries, Talos gave up that role and it ended up going empty until they picked up Variel.So I'm sure somewhere out there are more than a few Techmarines, but I imagine in the warbands that are pressed for numbers, or very conveniently have a Dark Mech Priest onboard, might not see one. I mean come on, who wants to be fixing everyone else's armor when there's a skinning pit to fill?

I see the logic, hey look a slave that can do the non homicidal things we need to keep running *hands in Techmarine notice*. I'm guessing novel wise it's easier to play the mechanicus stereotypes to contrast the Night Lords.

 

But what if the Techmarine just bullies the Hereteks into doing the boring stuff while he designs his SAW tourture traps for captured victims. Ave Dominus Box want to play a game?

 

I'm putting mine in charge of a Rapier Team and he gets to outfit the three stolen fighters in my warband plenty to keep a psycho happy and chest deep in blood.

 

-Noctem

 

I would pay good money just to see that scene in a BL novel. The rest of it could be absolute trash, but I would need that SAW scene lol.

[helterskelter]

It was called Vulkan lives :p

[Kol Saresk]

It was called Vulkan lives :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COPIrWoWsAARdYH.jpg

 

You're right. I deserve that.

[Xin Ceithan]

I am putting the NL Forgelord on my Legion Wars to-do-skin. I also feel the urge to use "von Flayburg". Somewhere. Anywhere. Maybe as an Escort ship. Or maybe I will put a scribbled sign with "Von Flayburg" near our hospital's immediate care unit...

[Kaptain Von]

Welcome Captain Von! Von... what, exactly? Von Killystein? Von Flayburg Zum Deathdorf?

 

IAbout Night Lords techmarines: almost three years ago, I wrote a piece of fluff for my Night Lords Contemptor Dreadnought Cilice Macelarius that featured a NL techmarine, if anyone is interested.

 

Von Anything That's Convenient At The Time, dear chap. It's a very flexible username. :D

 

As far as Techmarines go... well, I'll be building a Warpsmith or three, and nobody's going to stop me! No apothecaries though. Who needs them? What's a body if not a fragile, un-cooperative machine? I'm sure my brothers will be in safe hands with Zor Dhonn and his acolytes... right?

[helterskelter]

Zor Dhonn? Do his acolytes come in red, black, pink, yellow and blue? :p

[Kaptain Von]

Zor Dhonn? Do his acolytes come in red, black, pink, yellow and blue?

 

I need some way of telling five solo Obliterators apart... ;)

[Noctem Cultor]

Wow thanks for the replies on the subject, I'm glad we are all in the agreement of we are the eighth we do what we want!

 

Now I've got the core of the model built minus legion pad (also his converted Conversion Beamer rapier) I'm thinking I'll run with the silver skull and also do silver rib terror markings on his chest plate. Can't wait to get a chance to add cables etc then paint him up and show him off.

 

-Noctem

 

*Edit* I'm impatient so rather than wait until I've got enough put together and start up a w.i.p blog again here's a look at my Techmarine, I've gone for a simple look as the paint job will add the flavour. The messy object in his hand is the control for his Rapier I'll include a gallery link rather than clog up the thread.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/gallery/album/12766-dark-mechanicus/

 

Hope you like him.

-Noctem

Edited January 16, 2017 by Noctem Cultor

[Kaptain Von]

Nice. Those beefy looking Servitors are boss too.

[Dardl]

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option? 

[helterskelter]

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option?

How are you arming them? If you want them to charge things then stealth is what you want. If you've got them all melta'd/plasma'd up to shoot things then deep strike might be something to consider

[Dardl]

 

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option?

How are you arming them? If you want them to charge things then stealth is what you want. If you've got them all melta'd/plasma'd up to shoot things then deep strike might be something to consider

 

I'm arming them as all melta with melta bombs and the lord with either scourging chains and power sword or maybe one of the claw artifacts.

[Noctem Cultor]

@Kaptain Von

Thanks really came out better than I expected not done AdMech stuff before but think the bulky look will fit the servitor roles on my force just another 4 to go.

 

On the Raptor Deepstriking or place on table turn one discussion.

I'm running a Melta based Raptor Talon and I've thought about this. In the end I'm opting with deepstriking because my list means I have other units that can hold their own doing there own thing with the Raptors hitting out targets that would cause them issues early on.

But of course it depends on the enemy, if they are going to close the gap or infiltrate themselves straight in then I want those bodies on the table from the start.

 

Just my thoughts hope they help.

-Noctem

 

I need to get on the laptop tomorrow to post the images etc better but got my NL warband blog up and started. Metallic blue this time!

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329965-warband-of-eviscerated-truth-back-in-midnight-clad/?p=4626468

Edited January 17, 2017 by Noctem Cultor

[Kaptain Von]

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option? 

 

Does the entire Formation have to deploy the same way?

[Dardl]

 

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option? 

 

Does the entire Formation have to deploy the same way?

 

I don't actually know to be honest. Even so would splitting them be viable? 

[Kol Saresk]

 

 

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option? 

 

Does the entire Formation have to deploy the same way?

 

I don't actually know to be honest. Even so would splitting them be viable? 

 

I imagine it would only be if the formation demands it, using the alternate FOCs that do demand a universal deployment as an example. That said, clarification from Forgeworld is always suggested. Usually 2-3 business days is the wait time. Maybe faster on facebook, but not guaranteed.

[NeopoleonOz]

Quick question - Claws of the Black Hunt rules say each claw is master crafted. Does that mean they get two rerolls?

[Kaptain Von]

 

 

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option? 

 

Does the entire Formation have to deploy the same way?

 

I don't actually know to be honest. Even so would splitting them be viable? 

 

I ask because it might be worth fielding Raptors from the start and deep striking Talons so's not to miss out on that whole "turn you Blind" thing they do. Talons are more likely to do some good than Raptors on a disordered charge too.

[Dardl]

 

 

 

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option? 

 

Does the entire Formation have to deploy the same way?

 

I don't actually know to be honest. Even so would splitting them be viable? 

 

I ask because it might be worth fielding Raptors from the start and deep striking Talons so's not to miss out on that whole "turn you Blind" thing they do. Talons are more likely to do some good than Raptors on a disordered charge too.

 

 

That's a good point but I actually decided to replace the warp talons with another squad of raptors with meltas. It was cheaper and I felt the metla raptors would be more useful. 

 

So just to re-state the raptor talon is 

 

Chaos Lord: Scouring chains,jump pack,Votlw, Power sword, Melta bomb and sigil. 120pts

 

4 squads of 5 man Raptors: melta x 2 and melta bomb votlw 480 pts

 

600 in total. It's a large amount of points to leave in reserve without reserve manipulation 

[Blackheart1223]

@NeopoleonOZ

 

it says that the claws are paired weapons, so that would only give a bonus attack. Think of them as a pair of super lightning claws. The master-crafter rule would only apply to 1 attack.

[Kaptain Von]

 

 

 

 

Lads, I have a question regarding the raptor Talon. Is deep striking them a must or with the Night lords stealth rules is fielding them from the start a viable option? 

 

Does the entire Formation have to deploy the same way?

 

I don't actually know to be honest. Even so would splitting them be viable? 

 

I ask because it might be worth fielding Raptors from the start and deep striking Talons so's not to miss out on that whole "turn you Blind" thing they do. Talons are more likely to do some good than Raptors on a disordered charge too.

 

That's a good point but I actually decided to replace the warp talons with another squad of raptors with meltas. It was cheaper and I felt the metla raptors would be more useful. 

 

So just to re-state the raptor talon is 

 

Chaos Lord: Scouring chains,jump pack,Votlw, Power sword, Melta bomb and sigil. 120pts

 

4 squads of 5 man Raptors: melta x 2 and melta bomb votlw 480 pts

 

600 in total. It's a large amount of points to leave in reserve without reserve manipulation 

 

 

Ah, right, I missed the bit where you had a specific build for the formation. That's fair enough. In this case I'd play it by ear, holding stuff in reserve depending on the size of the game and what I was up against. Totally know what you mean in ref. leaving the points in reserve too; that's another reason why I'd consider having one or two squads Deep Strike and the rest start on the board. There might even be a role for the Dimensional Key in this formation - the Lord is fast enough that he might score a second turn kill and, correct me if I'm wrong, you can always choose to hold your stuff in reserve for another turn if it does turn up before the Key has been activated.

[Panzer]

Feel yourself corrected then. :P

[Noctem Cultor]

Hail Brothers,

 

Just finished building the first stage of a little Terror inspired piece hope you like it so far.

The Dark Omen Pod is one of Warsmith Kulla's more practical fear led projects.

Using salvaged but drop pods he has built in a Vox/Communications scrambler system the disrupts the immediate area amplified by the unfortunate tortured victims strapped in the screams not only sow fear and confusion but a have a hidden locator beacon helping the Warband deep strike near by with more ease.

 

Strap in for the ride of your life Imperial muwhaha

-Noctem