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[malcharion]

Yeah just see it ! Hope you're right, if we could get our atramantars it would be perfect ! But well after all we will get fluff and art for our murderers and that's great !

 

Edit : We definitively get new rules

Edited February 5, 2017 by malcharion

[Noctem Cultor]

I hope the Altramentor miniatures happen, Even if it's just a tiny upgrade kit I'd be happy.

 

On the painting headlights subject the page before. I paint mine like they are turned off, for my current attempt at that look silver Nuln oil washes twice then I painted a light grey from the Air range to give it the look of a bulb not turned on.

 

-Noctem

[helterskelter]

I've already got 20 cataphractii I'm almost hoping it's just some funky shoulder pads so I can ping the existing ones off :p

[Vinc]

[Kol Saresk]

It's off-topic, but I really have to know what the siege of Baal is.

[Noctem Cultor]

Not sure what the Siege of Baal is but line up looks good, I'm hoping we get more profiles of characters that become 30k/40k warband leaders. Having an idea of official leader builds is the closest we will get to special character rules in 40k.

 

-Noctem

[helterskelter]

I'm hoping for Sheng but now you've said this I'm half expecting they could pop Krieg in

[Noctem Cultor]

Oh Krieg would be an awesome shout my warband Lords fluff is that he was under Krieg during the Heresy but they had a 'disagreement' and parted ways.
Bar the fluff to fill in gaps of my own I'd like to build a DP based on his Heresy Profile. Could always use that to build a corrupted Night Lord force once I'm happy with my current warband.

-Noctem

Edited February 6, 2017 by Noctem Cultor

[Lord Abaia]

Here is a quick pic of my WIP Jump Lord I impulse bought last night.

 

I'm looking for the sweet mohawk and mutton chop Space Wolf Head from Deathwatch:Overkill to finish it off, so now I can save the fanged skull helmet for a venerable dread or something. I'm excited to paint all the flayed flesh on the right half, it's very Roose Bolton looking.

 

I debated weather or not to keep the feathered wings, and I decided to keep them and paint them up like magpie plumage. My fluff for him will be he picked up the nickname Magpie Knight during the Thramas Crusade for his habit of looting knightly artifacts off of dead Dark Angels. 

[Noctem Cultor]

Not bad claws look good on him, I debated to use mine as a JP character but went for the bike but should look great painted up. Interesting take for a lord not your standard NL which will make him stand out.

 

-Noctem

[Balthamal]

 

Here is a quick pic of my WIP Jump Lord I impulse bought last night.

 

 

I'm looking for the sweet mohawk and mutton chop Space Wolf Head from Deathwatch:Overkill to finish it off, so now I can save the fanged skull helmet for a venerable dread or something. I'm excited to paint all the flayed flesh on the right half, it's very Roose Bolton looking.

 

I debated weather or not to keep the feathered wings, and I decided to keep them and paint them up like magpie plumage. My fluff for him will be he picked up the nickname Magpie Knight during the Thramas Crusade for his habit of looting knightly artifacts off of dead Dark Angels. 

 

 

How about the Jackal Knight or Eques Draconum in High Gothic. 

 

Actually no screw that I'm keeping that one for myself 

[Kol Saresk]

 

My fluff for him will be he picked up the nickname Magpie Knight during the Thramas Crusade for his habit of looting knightly artifacts off of dead Dark Angels.

This image will never leave my mind now.

 

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr06/7/17/anigif_original-grid-image-15753-1381182530-19.gif

[Augustus b'Raass]

The Thramas Crusade! Hurray! Hopefully they got the by now community-wide established colour scheme for Legio Ulricon right.... :p

[Dardl]

Do you guys think you can use 40k night lords (modern chaos space marines with the 40k night lords upgrade pack) in 30k?

[Noctem Cultor]

@Dardl

You can I have, the only thing is making sure they look like the unit you want to represent for WYSIWYG. For the list I took I had my terror Squads with Skulls painted on the helms and left the normal NL with the standard Blue helmet. A lot of people only use the Ceremonial Bat Helms for Squad Leaders but as long as the leaders obvious I don't mind them being shared out.

The only thing people probably are not going to like are the Chaos Icons as well unlike other Legions the little overall corruption happened over time and mostly if not all after the Death of the Night Haunter. You can cut these off but that is up to you if you want to use them in 40k too and the people that you game with are okay it shouldn't be an issue.

 

Im actually doing it mostly the other way around using 30k armour & bits for my 40k force (with a few 40k chaos bits mixed in) my Chosen unit is going to be a Terror Squad as for me it fits looks and fluff and at the end of the day its the players choice that matters.

 

Hope that helps.

 

-Noctem

[Dardl]

@Dardl

You can I have, the only thing is making sure they look like the unit you want to represent for WYSIWYG. For the list I took I had my terror Squads with Skulls painted on the helms and left the normal NL with the standard Blue helmet. A lot of people only use the Ceremonial Bat Helms for Squad Leaders but as long as the leaders obvious I don't mind them being shared out.

The only thing people probably are not going to like are the Chaos Icons as well unlike other Legions the little overall corruption happened over time and mostly if not all after the Death of the Night Haunter. You can cut these off but that is up to you if you want to use them in 40k too and the people that you game with are okay it shouldn't be an issue.

 

Im actually doing it mostly the other way around using 30k armour & bits for my 40k force (with a few 40k chaos bits mixed in) my Chosen unit is going to be a Terror Squad as for me it fits looks and fluff and at the end of the day its the players choice that matters.

 

Hope that helps.

 

-Noctem

 

Thanks Noctem! 

 

I have only started my army so I think for the other half I am going to start using 30k models! 

 

I had the advantage of this thread before starting so although there is a few chaos symbols they are well hidden and there are no horned or spikey helmets in my army. I started a Raven guard 30k army and since starting night lords in 40k have struggled to get motivated to do anything with them :P 

[Noctem Cultor]

No problem at all, to be honest getting the balance of variety is key for a 30k/40k force. You say you have well hidden symbols then thats great would work well with me im sure some Companies jumped quietly on the Chaos band wagon, having a mix of models that are half 40k style NL and half 30k style NL will look great, each company has its own style so why not run with that.

I hope the motivation comes and you create backstabbing awesomeness!

 

-Noctem

[Kol Saresk]

Eh, from experience, I feel like there are enough pieces in a box that you can adequately build an entire squad without once ever touching a Chaos symbol. So as a cheaper alternative, you could definitely use CSM or even SM boxes with the NL upgrade packs to build an HH army.

[Augustus b'Raass]

Eh, from experience, I feel like there are enough pieces in a box that you can adequately build an entire squad without once ever touching a Chaos symbol. So as a cheaper alternative, you could definitely use CSM or even SM boxes with the NL upgrade packs to build an HH army.

I agree about the CSM, but not on the SM on that one. Remember, MkVII were extremely rare even during the later days of the Heresy, and iirc MkVIII wasn't even around. Also, the aquilla breastplates were only introduced to the Adeptus Astartes until after the scourging. I'm a very tolerant player, and whatever floats your boat, but I'd at least verbally comment on that wheneveer someone showed up with 40K space marines as 30k marines. Besides, MkIV and MkIII 30K space marines are cheaper than 40K plastics now that we have the BaC en BoP boxed sets.

[Kol Saresk]

Eh, I think at this point we've seen enough Mk VII in the Heresy artwork that as long as you skip the aquilas(unless you're EC; although technically that's the Palatine Aquila, not the actual Aquila we see on 40K models), that you can sit there and say "Oh, that's the MK VII helmet we see a Sons of Horus and a World Eater wear in Book 1 Betrayal." As for the raised chest piece of the Mk VIII, I point to the Ashen Circle. Whose gorgets rise so high the helmet and chest pieces come as a single piece of resin.

 

Trust me Augustus, I'm an :cuss, but I'd like to think that I've proven I'm an :cuss who plays by the background. I wouldn't tell someone to do something the background says they can't do.

 

Although, an idea that hits me, a Night Lords army in 30K could wear the aquila as a defiled mockery of the Palatine Aquila as a big middle finger to the Loyalists.

 

But again, it wouldn't really work since the Palatine Aquila was the big deal only the EC could wear and only the 30K EC models have it.

[Dardl]

Eh, I think at this point we've seen enough Mk VII in the Heresy artwork that as long as you skip the aquilas(unless you're EC; although technically that's the Palatine Aquila, not the actual Aquila we see on 40K models), that you can sit there and say "Oh, that's the MK VII helmet we see a Sons of Horus and a World Eater wear in Book 1 Betrayal." As for the raised chest piece of the Mk VIII, I point to the Ashen Circle. Whose gorgets rise so high the helmet and chest pieces come as a single piece of resin.

 

Trust me Augustus, I'm an , but I'd like to think that I've proven I'm an who plays by the background. I wouldn't tell someone to do something the background says they can't do.

 

Although, an idea that hits me, a Night Lords army in 30K could wear the aquila as a defiled mockery of the Palatine Aquila as a big middle finger to the Loyalists.

 

But again, it wouldn't really work since the Palatine Aquila was the big deal only the EC could wear and only the 30K EC models have it.

Doesn't Talos have a big defiled aquila accross his chest?

 

 

[Black_out]

So I could use a little help for my Fire raptors base. I use agrellan earth with an agrax wash for my bases but I also added some stone to break things up. Issue is, I have no idea how to paint desert/wasteland stone. Help??

 

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee424/tom-asaurusrex/20170206_205728_zpsrpjvnfe0.jpg

[Kol Saresk]

@Dardl: Yes, but that chestplate came from a Blood Angel he killed and then ritually broke sometime following the Siege of Terra.

 

In 30K, we end up getting two types of Aquila: the regular Aquila that we all know and hate from 40K, and the Palatine Aquila, which only the Emperor, the Custodes, and the Emperor's Children were allowed to wear.

 

At first, it was confusing because literally right up until Book 1 Betrayal, the Palatine Aquila did not exist. Since then, Forgeworld and Black Library have gone to lengths to show the differentation, although the two aquilas look very similar.

 

Like, here's the Palatine Aquila off the chest of an EC Phoenix Termie.

 

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99590102153_EmperorsChildrenPhoenixTerminators04.jpg

 

And then here's a stylized aquila the praetor models wear. Along with a riased gorget reminiscent of the Mk VIII. :P

 

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99550101327_LegionPraetors03.jpg

 

But the two are pretty flippin similar and arguably could be seen as the exact symbol.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Kol Saresk

[Augustus b'Raass]

I had no idea about the distinction between the palatine and the ´stylized´ aquila. You learn something every day :) Although to be honest (and I'm sure it is me) I don't see the difference. Can you elaborate on what the difference is (to enlighten us lore-dummies), Kol Saresk? :)

 

Doesn't Talos have a big defiled aquila accross his chest?

Yeah but that is in the 40K setting. Talos stole it from an adeptus astartes champion and defiled it, in the 200 years that he's experienced since Kurze's death.

[Noctem Cultor]

Just an observation I some how missed on a first glance because the Claws of the Black Hunt had all of my attention. Anyone think that the Curze's Orb artifact is perfect for representing a NL Prophet character? Has anyone paired this up in a way to make it more so?

 

-Noctem