++ AUGUSTUS b'RAASS ++ pre-heresy BRASS SCORPION p.247

[Aasfresser]

I'm so glad you reposed Fatty McPoop, he looks very dynamic and way more threatening. This is why I love the B&C's WIP forum, so much useful input and constructive comments. 

And touche: you're absolutely right about the neck. It will look good once sculpted.

[~Drakzilla~]

The reposed legs are definitely better than before, but still don't look quite right. Since his torso is very straight, it looks more like he's dragging the back leg rather than leaning into the swing. If the whole body was angled forward more it would definitely convey more motion. A quick Photoshop mockup to illustrate:

 

http://i.imgur.com/22miUxC.jpg

[GuitaRasmus]

The reposed legs are definitely better than before, but still don't look quite right. Since his torso is very straight, it looks more like he's dragging the back leg rather than leaning into the swing. If the whole body was angled forward more it would definitely convey more motion. A quick Photoshop mockup to illustrate:

 

http://i.imgur.com/22miUxC.jpg

 

I agree with this, but more importantly, I think the torso needs to be turned a bit - like an 8th og a 16th of a turn - in the direction of the censer. This will convey a lot more momentum and dynamics, I think. However, I'm very aware the he will be an absolute b****** to to this with. I think it can be done though, by cutting off his entire torso and repositioning it, with some sculpting touchups afterwards. 

[Augustus b'Raass]

Thanks for all the comments, team! Just a quick update to show that I am not, in fact, dead. Just very busy with work and dating (which is totally awkward, after having been out of the game for years! - I do have a date with a doctor, though. :D) Anyway.  Here's some updates on the Nurgle Daemon Prince. 

 

I started working on sculpting the muscles of his right upper arm...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Death%20Guard/WP_20170802_002%202_zpsrfzkekss.jpg

 

... and connected his left leg to his pelvis.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Death%20Guard/WP_20170802_001%203_zps7arf0yts.jpg

 

I'll just keep on trucking. 

 

Thanks for looking and for all your comments and feedback. Most of what you're saying is very helpful, and although some aren't in line with my vision, all of it is appreciated - even the ones I don't agree with force me to think why I don't agree, which is helpful in itself, as I make better judgements that way. :tu:

 

Replies!
 

@ ElDuderino: Yeah pose is 2/3rds of the whole ensemble when it comes to conversion, as far as I am concerned. 

 

@ sfPanzer: Wait for the neck to be actually sculpted before you judge it! :)

 

@ KrautScientist: See? That comment about his leg - even though at first I was like 'but it looks fine' made me return to it, and see that it's off by a few mediocre degrees. So I tweaked it, and now it's perfect. Thanks, Kraut!

 

@ Maarten: Thank, buddy! I cannot wait for those Land Raider conversion tracks you're sending me!

 

@ DuskRaider: Yeah I thought about them too and I am still not sure about them I agree with KrautSCientist about them looking decrepit, but the finecast is so bad...

 

@ Biohazard: Yeah dude! You're right! He totally looks like the violator! Lolz - trip back to memory lane. :)

 

@ Dragonlover: Nah, that's a bit too tongue-in-cheek (see what I did there?). This dude need to look feral and scary, not funny. 

 

@ Teetengee: The shoulder on his or our right - pretty important to not leave out the possessive from that particular sentence, buddy! :D In any case - neither have had any but the most basic sculpting work done, so I'll ignore that critique until I've worked on it for a bit. :) 

 

@ KrautScientist: I agree, the problem is the cast of the finecast is so bad!

 

@ Aasfresser: Isn't it!? Thanks! 

 

@ ~Drakzilla~: Thank you so much for going to the trouble of doing the photoshop! I see that somehow his censer is raised, but I'm not sure how you have done it - and thus what you want me to alter. Just be sure that his torso will be turned about 5 degrees to his right :tu:

 

@ GuitaRasmus: I completely agree with that  -and I had already planned it. It's just that his torso was blutacked to his legs in the pictures, and the weight of the censer kept pushing his body back to his left. Anyway. I really appreciate your C&C, especially since you're such an accomplished converter yourself. However, I really would appreciate your not quoting pictures to make your point. A simple 'I agree with the above picture', 'Re:fraterX's comment:', or simply putting the pics in the quote between hidden brackets, would alleviate that problem. It's kind of a pet peeve of mine, I know, but for these reasons, it's really worth dispensing of the quoted pics...

[Panzer]

 

@ sfPanzer: Wait for the neck to be actually sculpted before you judge it!

 

Okay, you said it! Don't you dare disappoint me! :D

[Aasfresser]

Raising the base under the right foot is a great idea to tweak the angle of the legs. Now I want to see him as a whole again to judge if he got more dynamic. The sculpted muscles look good, the tentacles as well. You use a tube tool, right? 

[KrautScientist]

Just very busy with work and dating (...)

 

Well, there goes the mancave. Just you wait ;)

 

Seriously, though: Best of luck on the dating front! :)

 

Still, it's good to see an update, and the Daemon Prince is getting better and better. I was just about prepared to say the leg issue hasn't really been resolved (because that gap, where you've now sculpted additional tissue) is so wide as to throw off the overall anatomy a bit, but then I realised that the lines of his left leg now make it look almost insectile, as though it were on the verge of another flesh change, so that actually works, after all.

 

I've been meaning to ask this for a while: Will he be getting another shoulder pad on his left shoulder? Because I've always found that bare shoulder to be one of the stock models shortcomings.

[Augustus b'Raass]

@ sfPanzer: I won't I won't!  

 

@ Aasfresser: I do use a tube roll, but the tentacle is completely sculpted one the down where the vambrace starts - you can see it's a bit less smooth, there.

 

@ KrautScientist: Thanks, - that's a nice thought about the insectile leg. I will include another shoulder pad on the left armour, for sure, as I agree it's a bit weird that the stock model doesn't have one.  

[misterkho]

Thanks for all the comments, team! Just a quick update to show that I am not, in fact, dead. Just very busy with work and dating (which is totally awkward, after having been out of the game for years! - I do have a date with a doctor, though. )

 LIES! ALL LIES!!!

[Teetengee]

-snip-

 

@ Teetengee: The shoulder on his or our right - pretty important to not leave out the possessive from that particular sentence, buddy! In any case - neither have had any but the most basic sculpting work done, so I'll ignore that critique until I've worked on it for a bit.

 

-snip-

His shoulder, thus the right shoulder, not the shoulder on the right :P. In any case, please do ignore, as the sculpting is already improving it.

 

Different critique about that shoulder: The shoulder pad is now going to be slid down over his "deltoid" which doesn't quite match up with the point of the armor, but is well within the possibilities of a daemon prince. Also, adjusting it would require slicing apart even more bits. It still looks a bit weird though.

[~Drakzilla~]

 

*snip*

 

@ ~Drakzilla~: Thank you so much for going to the trouble of doing the photoshop! I see that somehow his censer is raised, but I'm not sure how you have done it - and thus what you want me to alter. Just be sure that his torso will be turned about 5 degrees to his right

 

So the only thing I did was tilt the whole upper body, arms and everything, by about 20 degrees clockwise.

 

http://i.imgur.com/hCMbWWr.jpg 

[Panzer]

 

 

*snip*

 

@ ~Drakzilla~: Thank you so much for going to the trouble of doing the photoshop! I see that somehow his censer is raised, but I'm not sure how you have done it - and thus what you want me to alter. Just be sure that his torso will be turned about 5 degrees to his right

 

So the only thing I did was tilt the whole upper body, arms and everything, by about 20 degrees clockwise.

 

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I think that's too much to be honest. Also hurling such kind of weapon from below is nothing unusual so I'm not sure if it actually needs that change at all. 

[DuskRaider]

I like it, it gives the illusion of weight to the weapon.

[rednekkboss]

Maybe 3 to 5 degrees instead of 20. I like the idea better than the static pose, but 20 is a bit much. Subtle can have a big impact sometimes.

[Sagentus]

I like the way it's shows the possible weight of the weapon. Even a dp has to put effort into shafting it lol. So if you do go to tilt it a bit of would do as rednek says and do 3-5 degrees

[Augustus b'Raass]

Thanks, guys! Busy week, had to hand over all my work before my vacation starts. I'll work on te DP some more tomorrow!

 

@ misterkho: Haha you know it, brother. You're just jealous that I cancelled our scheduled practice game to go on a date! :D

 

@ Teetengee: That's a sharp observation and a good point, thanks! I'll be sure to get the pad slightly higher. Thanks! :tu:

 

@ ~Drakzilla~: AAaah that explains a lot, thanks for making that. I agree he should be slightly turned. 20 degrees is perhaps a bit much, but definitely more than what was represented in the previous update. 

 

@ sfPanzer: You 20 is a bit much, but Drakzilla is right that it should be slightly more tilted. 

 

@ DuskRaider: I'm glad to hear that, as that's the point!

 

@ rednekkboss: Yeah that sounds about right. Thanks for your fantastic Nurglification tutorial, btw!

 

@ Sagentus: Doesn't he? Lol! Thanks for the confirm. Cheers!

[Dragonlover]

Hmm, feral without cheesiness for the tongue... Maybe something wider and flatter but with toothy protrusions on the underside?

 

Dragonlover

[GuitaRasmus]

Thanks for all the comments, team! Just a quick update to show that I am not, in fact, dead. Just very busy with work and dating (which is totally awkward, after having been out of the game for years! - I do have a date with a doctor, though.

 

@ GuitaRasmus: I completely agree with that  -and I had already planned it. It's just that his torso was blutacked to his legs in the pictures, and the weight of the censer kept pushing his body back to his left. Anyway. I really appreciate your C&C, especially since you're such an accomplished converter yourself. However, I really would appreciate your not quoting pictures to make your point. A simple 'I agree with the above picture', 'Re:fraterX's comment:', or simply putting the pics in the quote between hidden brackets, would alleviate that problem. It's kind of a pet peeve of mine, I know, but for these reasons, it's really worth dispensing of the quoted pics...

 

Being married to a Doctor of Nursing Practice (she mainly develops nursing techniques, etc), I can heartily recommend that field for female material - just don't expect too much compassion when you're not feeling too well - they've seen too much to give a crap about things like "man-flu". :D Best of luck with your endeavours, though! 

 

Reg pics: Got ya. :) 

[Augustus b'Raass]

Oooooh something very interesting came in the mail today! After some resistance from the German Postal services and a journey thrice as long as intended, a package arrived from my good buddy and real-life pal KrautScientist!

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Hobby/WP_20170804_001_zps6gm7b0ke.jpg

 

 

Let's see, what do we have here? Two wig sets - one decrepid one intended for another Nurgle Daemon Prince, and the wings of the WG Manticore! That'll force me to build yet another Khornate Prince!!!  There's also a bag of chaos bits, including a press mold of the head of the Khornate MkV Dreadnought I gave to KrautSCientist as a gift, when he was here. :) 

 

In addition, and perhaps more importantly, are the bits to make a wickedly cool Imperial Fists champion on bike, that Krauty has build especially for me! Isn't it cool? I hope he'll forgive me for stealing a picture from his stream:

 

 

Check out his GreenStuff beard!!

 

isn't that just a fantastic miniature?? I love it! And doubly so because someone I met online - who happened to share more than the hobby in interests with me, and who through years of online banter and an eventual weekend of hobby madness, beer, and GW store visits ended up a real life friend - sends me this perfect gift!!!

 

I'm thoroughly excited, I can tell you. Thanks for distracting me from my already thin-spread time working on my Nurgle Daemon Prince, Kraut!

 

Replies!
 

@ Dragonlover: That souds totally gross, dude! Perfect!

 

@ GuitaRasmus: Yeah the manflu doesn't sit well with doctor partners. I dated a doctor before, and she was merciless!! lol 

Edited August 4, 2017 by Augustus b'Raass

[KrautScientist]

(...)And doubly so because someone I met online - who happened to share more than the hobby in interests with me, and who through years of online banter and an eventual weekend of hobby madness, beer, and GW store visits ended up a real life friend - sends me this perfect gift!!!

 

I can only agree with that sentiment! To be fair, though, the model is only a very small way of saying thank you for a truly excellent weekend at Amsterdam, so you are very welcome indeed!

 

As I've said elsewhere, I am extremely happy the package has finally managed to reach you! Seeing what you do with that Imperial Fists model should surely be a treat!

 

That being said, let's focus on the Nurgle DP for now, shall we, as that beast is really turning into something special, and I would love to see more of him!

Edited August 4, 2017 by KrautScientist

[NOOBIENOOBLET]

Company Champion, Vantar Antelleon

[NOOBIENOOBLET]

I would like to claim a Battle Brother.

[Aasfresser]

I hope I use the right part of the invocation, it's been a long tome ago since I last tried to summon a thing from beyond. Was it the dragons head or the tail? I'm not sure anymore. The head makes more sense, as it symbolizes the start as the tail is the end and so should be the banishing spell of the two. What could possibly go wrong?

 

Y'AI 'NG'NGAH, 

YOG-SOTHOTH
H'EE—L'GEB
F'AI THRODOG
UAAAH

 

 

Now lets see if HE will answer....

[misterkho]

ah...do you remember the days when we had an almost daily update....gone are the days of hobbying and game...a toast for our fallen comrade who has fell in in dire battle. 

(I swear to God, if you reach page 10 i am going to post the "update" i made to your Daemonprince :)

[Augustus b'Raass]

Hello! It's been a loooooooooooooooooong time since I posted anything on this, my thread - in which I have posted almost daily for over three years. Life can be a rollercoaster sometimes. My ew job is a lot busier than I anticipated. In addition, I met a woman, who has basically been with me (and I with her) every day since the last time I posted (which was also the day of our first date). Lastly, my back injury doesn't help with keeping my energy levels sufficiently high - I spend my 'alone time'  basically asleep nowadays. Not that I am complaining - but yes, my hobby time, and, more importantly, hobby jive, have suffered from all these developments. 

 

There's another thing that contributed to the decline in my hobby jive. The continuation of the story (the fluff) and the release of 8th edition (the crunch):

 The fluff:

The continuation of the 40K timeline an sich is not a problem for me. I have always wondered why they had the 2003 Third Battle for Armaggedon campaign set in the year M40.999, as any fluff continuation after that would logically have to take place in the 41st millenium, making the iconic name of the game itself seem inappropriate. We're playing 40K, not 41K, after all. But now they have, and BOY have they ruffled my fictional universe feathers. From my point of view (which has been heavily influenced by playing 20+ years of Vampire the Masquerade RPGs)  the all-powerful should remain mysterious, not to be named or heard of. That's what makes the universe so interesting - anything can take place, as the major players, the real movers and shakers, aren't playable characters. Now, suddenly, there are not one, but THREE Primarchs running around. AND suddenly there's a newly awakened Eldar god, plus some heretofore unheard of 10,000 year-old Mechanicus dude who has a stash of über-space-marines hidden away on Mars. I just find the whole thing ... unbelievable and therefore unrelatable. My suspension of disbelief has been broken. I cannot relate to the new universe, and especially to the new space marines. They're awesome models, hell yes, but I cannot shake the thoughts that they are just GW trying to make an extra buck off the whole truescale hype, while still managing to not upgrade 20+ years-old miniature kits that are basic to certain armies. *cough*Khorne Berzekers*cough*. I mean, what the hell are they thinking: Thousand Sons rubricae are infinitely less popular and competitive than Khorne Berzerkers, Nurgle already had a great conversion kit from FW, but nooooo, they get an update, plus Spehs Muhreens get completely, never-heard of or even hinted-at new units.

 The crunch:

Not that I am against the new rules/crunch. Not at all. Seventh Edition had become a completely unbalanced monstrosity and I am thankful for the way in which GW has revised the way the rules work so completely. But therein also lies the problem: I have become by now an old fart. I have played 40K for over two decades. The last 19 years, I have been accustomed to the rules working in mostly the same way. Sure, each consecutive edition since 3rd was slightly different, but they all built on the same principles. Eight edition changed so radically, that I really have trouble wrapping my head around things. Everything is different. And I just don't have the time or the energy to spare to quickly learn the game to the tactical and strategic level that I am accustomed to and I want to attain. To be clear: I don't enjoy playing games that I don't know and thus am not good at, and I don't have the time or energy to spare to learn to become good at it anymore. What doesn't help either is that all my armies - but especially my Imperial Fists - have been built with 7th edition rules in mind. Especially this year, I put great effort in completing competitive units, such as a Skyhammer Annihiilation Force of exactly 1000 points, three biker units and biker characters, and Centurions, for use in tournaments. With the meta shifting so radically, most of these units are now either redundant or lackluster. Sure, the force can be rearranged and perhaps even added to to make a competitive list, but not how I imagined it. I've built a specific force, and now with the new rules, I cannot use that force. I know it's somewhat irrational, but I feel a bit cheated by 8th....   How would you feel if your cool, freshly painted units became, in a way, obsolete only weeks after you finished them?

 

[end of rant]

 

As you are probably aware, this thread started with my Night Lords collection, which was already almost complete when I started posting on this forum. I finished it over ETL3 and ETL4, and I have done nothing with those miniatures ever since. I have even started and painted a collection of Imperial Fists, which had begun to rival even my Night Lords in size. Anyway, I calculated that I had about 12,000 points of Night Lords and about 6000 points of Imperial Fists. All painted to a reasonably high level. And...

 

I sold them all. 

ALL OF THEM!!

 

For about cost plus 20% - 40%. So I made a few bucks, which I have used to buy stuff for the house, new clothes, a vacation to France (where I am currently) and to South Africa and Malawi in February, to pay off loans, and with the remaining, to add to my financial buffer. the wierd thing is that I am actually glad I sold the Night Lords, because those had literally been standing around gathering dust. The Imperial Fists I sold with a bit of pain, but I am glad they are gone and have all been sold to the same guy.

I still have my Khorne Army left and I am NOT planning on selling those anytime soon. In fact, I am planning on slowly replacing the Blood Warrior-based Khorne Berzerkers with actual power armoured dudes, with raptor legs and the heads of Primaris Reivers (thanks for the inspiration, Biohazard). in addition, I am plannig on painting a complete Chaos Death Guard army in Legion colours. I will start with this as soon as I am back from vacation. 

 

In other words....

 

http://78.media.tumblr.com/e62da66d9d029ac71f412f9f35c324f4/tumblr_mrkw5cQmia1sp9fcho1_500.gif

 

My hobby juices have started flowing again after seeing all the cool new Death Guard units, and reading some of my regular inspirational blogs here on B&C. Especially Biohazard's!

 

Cheers!

Replies:

 

@ KrautSCientist: NOT to worry, buddy! I still have some unpainted stuff left, and I am fully of the intention to paint those in Imperial Fists colours. your biker will have a special place!

@ NOOBIENOOBLET: Company Champion has already been picked, buddy! Pick something new, please! Which Battle Brother?

 

@ Aasfresser: crap, with my head somepletely out of the game and my body in France, I cannot figure it out! I'll have to owe you it!

 

@ misterkho: You're an idiot! Loooool!

 

Edited December 14, 2017 by Augustus b'Raass