Captain Semper Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm totally fine with that, just price him accordingly. Are we looking at 125pts if I'm not mistaken? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3670811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zulu Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm totally fine with that, just price him accordingly. Are we looking at 125pts if I'm not mistaken? That is correct. Thanks. Just wanted to make that clear so that people don't get confused by the 'almost Chaplain' without a Crozius. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3670836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Semper - if you're tracking with a spreadsheet, do we get periodic cumulative totals (vows & completions) per Strategium? Or only after its all over. Just wondering. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3670844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ah, that's the best part: You get weekly updates where all the relevant data is presented and a small analysis of mine per faction! Here's last year's first weekly update so you get an idea: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275437-e-tenebrae-lux-ii/?p=3376922 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3670848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Atticus Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ah, that's the best part: You get weekly updates where all the relevant data is presented and a small analysis of mine per faction! Here's last year's first weekly update so you get an idea: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275437-e-tenebrae-lux-ii/?p=3376922 Even if you are not taking part, the ETL updates are one of the best reads on the forum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3670877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Thanks mate! :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3670888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I, Acebaur, Marshal Moderati of the Black Templars am here in the name of Brother Andhil to proclaim first blood for the Black Templars! Unless one can prove us otherwise we claim this victory in the name of Sigismund, Dorn and the Emperor!!! Andhil's completed vow posted at 14:45 GMT -5. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290382-e-tenebrae-lux-iii-angels-of-death-strategium/?p=3671161 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3671246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwing1511 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 If I've got 2 chaplains that were modeled pre - new codex, and one is armed with a power sword and the other a thunder hammer, can I vow them as captains with a maul and additional weapon? Edit: they both still have crozius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3671490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronze Beast in the Dark Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I am finally starting my vow tonight after spending time in the pain-glove meditating on which non-Son of Dorn chapter I will be painting. Is my before picture allowed to be the sprues pre-assembly or do I need to have my marines assembled prior to declaring the vow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3671538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Anything from on-the-sprue all the way up to assembled and primed is acceptable, you're good to go :tu: Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3671599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 If I've got 2 chaplains that were modeled pre - new codex, and one is armed with a power sword and the other a thunder hammer, can I vow them as captains with a maul and additional weapon? Edit: they both still have crozius The one with the sword can be vowed as a Chaplain with The Burning Blade Relic, and the second could very well be vowed as a Captain with Power Maul and Thunder Hammer. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3671604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I, Acebaur, Marshal Moderati of the Black Templars am here in the name of Brother Andhil to proclaim first blood for the Black Templars! Unless one can prove us otherwise we claim this victory in the name of Sigismund, Dorn and the Emperor!!! Andhil's completed vow posted at 14:45 GMT -5. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290382-e-tenebrae-lux-iii-angels-of-death-strategium/?p=3671161 First Blood, aye. But we all know that it is Heart's Blood that matters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3671642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I, Acebaur, Marshal Moderati of the Black Templars am here in the name of Brother Andhil to proclaim first blood for the Black Templars! Unless one can prove us otherwise we claim this victory in the name of Sigismund, Dorn and the Emperor!!! Andhil's completed vow posted at 14:45 GMT -5. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290382-e-tenebrae-lux-iii-angels-of-death-strategium/?p=3671161 From Chaos - Congrats! But we've been waiting 10,000 years. Alittle more time to arrive won't hurt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3671647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 If I've got 2 chaplains that were modeled pre - new codex, and one is armed with a power sword and the other a thunder hammer, can I vow them as captains with a maul and additional weapon? Edit: they both still have crozius Go for it! No problem on my part! I am finally starting my vow tonight after spending time in the pain-glove meditating on which non-Son of Dorn chapter I will be painting. Is my before picture allowed to be the sprues pre-assembly or do I need to have my marines assembled prior to declaring the vow?Sprues are totally fine! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3671807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Anyone pulling their hair out yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3673802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 OK, this is probably the dumbest question I have ever asked LoL I am building my vows from my parts bins, should I get a before pic of my squad after I build it and before I paint it OR do you wants pics of everything as soon as I make the vow? Believe me I know how that sounds but the wording has my brain addled (shrapnel doesn't help) and I just want to be clear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3673826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 After build, before paint would be the easiest way to do it. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3673830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Ah I see where I went wrong. Way misread the rules. Thanks Dragon, I was assuming your input was correct and I was thinking the same way. I just read the "must start" the wrong way :) Disregard CPT I have it under control now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3673835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Good. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3674047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imren Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I Brother Najanus answer the call of E TENEBRAE LUX and vow tocomplete:- Chapter master, thunder hammer, storm shield, bike- 5 bikers, 2x gravgun, combigrav- 5 man tac squad, plasmagun, combiplasma- 5 man tac squad, plasmagun, combiplasma- 5 man Sternguard, 4 combimelta, heavy flamer- 2x stormtalon- 3x drop podsfrom Codex: Space Marines of total value 1095p on or before August 1st. Success will bring eternal glory to the Iron Cobras and failure will doom me to bear the Badge of Shame until the year-end This is the prejob photo: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3676051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 OK Brother Najanus, your vow is in. Just note that the proper area to post vows and subsequent completions is the Angels of Death Strategium. No worries though, your vow is registered - good luck! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3676676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imren Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Ok, noted, thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3677868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 =][= FIRST WEEKLY UPDATE =][= http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/ETL_2014_Poster_V6.jpg What can I say… The involvement so far is breathtaking! In just the first week of ETL III we have almost as many participants as we had in the entire ETL I! I have to say I’m humbled by the enthusiasm displayed by the frater and the fierce loyalty I see across all factions! This is indeed the best ETL to date! A few numbers to put everything in perspective: total participants stand at 277 and total points pledged at 271k! Last year, in the first week we had 181 participants and total points stood at 157k – an amount that by last year’s standards seemed huge! The ETL is for sure in a different league this year. But, despite the mass participation and the hefty vowing, there is something that bugs me. Just by looking at the stats it is evident that my decision to group together the Black Templars with the rest of the Angels of Death (as they now share the same Codex) created a Leviathan of a faction resulting in a great imbalance within the ETL. This super-faction has double the amount of participants compared to its closest rivals and twice the points pledged. This, in my view, makes for a less exciting outlook, since the numerical advantage of the AoD faction is just too large. Further analysis shows that the Black Templars represent virtually half of the AoD strength. That means, that both the Black Templars and the AoD (excluding the Black Templars) can stand on their own and indeed bid for the top position with no handicap whatsoever. This in turn will make for a closely fought battle as the immediate rivals (Chaos, DAs, HH and Imperial Forces) have comparable capacity while the less immediate rivals (BAs and SWs) have adequate time to build up their strength and devise strategies to also allow them to bid for the top position.AS SUCH, FROM THIS POINT ONWARDS THE BLACK TEMPLARS ARE A FACTION IN THEIR OWN RIGHT. THE REST OF THE ANGELS OF DEATH SUB-FORUMS WILL CONTINUE TO BE CALLED THE ANGELS OF DEATH AND THEY TOO WILL BECOME A FACTION IN THEIR OWN RIGHT. In a sense, although the Black Templars do not have an exclusive Codex, they do have an exclusive history in the ETL, being Champions of ETL I and coming second in ETL II. This proud tradition is set to continue despite the changes imposed by a single Codex. Also this gives the opportunity to the Angels of Death to become the true heirs of the “Codex” faction of the previous ETLs and see if they can win the big prize without the support of the Black Templars! So how will things look now post this, admittedly, monumental change? What is the new balance of power? See the table below: E TENEBRAE LUX III – Week 1 Black Templars 42 47 31,937 4,113 13% Angels of Death 40 40 41,603 0 0% Imperial Fists 12 12 15,404 0 0% Iron Hands 0 0 0 0 0% Raven Guard 4 4 12,106 0 0% Salamanders 3 3 1,420 0 0% Ultramarines 7 7 2,782 0 0% White Scars 2 2 428 0 0% Index Astartes 12 12 9,463 0 0% Blood Angels 21 21 14,228 425 3% Dark Angels 40 41 36,104 1,036 2.9% Space Wolves 23 25 18,329 400 2.2% Realm of Chaos 39 39 65,286 0 0% Forces of the Imperium 33 34 26,315 780 3% Imperial Guard 23 23 14,934 405 2.7% Grey Knights 3 3 7,338 0 0% Adeptus Mechanicus 1 1 375 375 100% Sisters of Battle 7 7 3,668 0 0% Horus Heresy 39 39 36,979 0 0% TOTAL 277 286 270,781 6,574 2.5% So let’s see this one by one:BLACK TEMPLARS The Templars display their trademark zeal and are among the leading Factions in this ETL. They have the numbers, they have the momentum – but can they see this through without the support of their less crazed brethren? They have done so in the past so anything is possible! The only advice I would give is to consider raising their average vow of 680pts towards the ETL average 950pts. But this can happen in subsequent vows as the most important thing now is to get as many new recruits in as possible.ANGELS OF DEATH The Angels of Death display significant differences between the constituent forums. The Imperial Fists and Index Astartes have the largest participation with 12 participants each while the on the other end of the spectrum we have the Iron Hands that have yet to officially place a single vow! In between we have small participations from the other Chapters with a notable exception of the Raven Guard that due to a single mega-vow of almost 11k points is a serious force within the faction ranking second after the Imperial Fists in terms of points. In order to water down this high reliance in a single vow, the AoD should take the opportunity to build up their participation levels in the coming three weeks. Even so, as it stands now, AoD is one of the favorites for the top position!BLOOD ANGELS The most important thing now is not points but number of participants. With 20 participants you’re roughly at half the participation levels of your main rivals – most of them being in the region of 40… This is inevitably reflected in the total amount of points pledged - currently the lowest in the ETL. Furthermore the BA average vow some 270pts below the ETL average – that’s good if you have high participation but not good if you’re in the other side of the spectrum…. So bottom line? Recruit while the recruitment period is open and then work on raising your average vow… SECRET MISSION: A D-B has joined your ranks. He’s well known to the Inner Circle where he’s referred to as “he who has yet to paint a miniature”. So the secret mission for the BA faction is to use whatever means necessary (no matter how extreme) to make A D-B finish his vow.DARK ANGELS With 40 participants (second highest after the Templars) and an average vow of 880 (somewhat lower than average) the DAs are in a very good shape for claiming the top position. The Titanas Bellum – the Inner Circle’s parallel – event also helps especially with vows involving the Deathwing… The only risk here is to lose momentum and stop the recruiting process. A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy! Fat chance of this happening…SPACE WOLVES The Wolves have a similar approach to that of the BAs, i.e. low number of recruits and low average vow, despite some notable exceptions of veterans. Here the same advice applies: recruit while the season is on! The size of vow is not that important at this point. Even a single model is very welcome – more so if it’s in Runic or Terminator armour as it can also join the Titanas Bellum and stand against the might of the Deathwing!REALM OF CHAOS The Realm of Chaos has a very impressive start! With a sizeable number of participants (39) and an amazing amount of pledged points for this stage of the event (65k) it looks as if this time Terra will fall. But this is NOT the full picture. In truth, 27k points are made by just two individuals. That means that excluding this contribution we have 37 participants with 37k points – totally at par with their immediate rivals. The Realm of Chaos has one weakness: a high reliance to a couple of participants. The good news is that both participants have excellent track records… We’ll see.IMPERIAL FORCES The Imperial Forces is a large and diverse group with Imperial Guard being the most dominant force but with the other factions also contributing substantially. The faction has 33 participants and an average vow standing 170pts lower than the ETL average. I think Imperial Forces should try and fight equally in both fronts: Increase recruitment (with 33 recruits already a small increase could yield meaningful results) and increase average vow (with all the hardware available to the Guard this will be less of a challenge compared to other factions). So keep the momentum going!HORUS HERESY The Horus Heresy faction started last year as the connoisseur corner with some amazing painting but really harmless in the big picture. Boy has this changed… In the course of one year and the release of two HH books by Forge World and the myriad of amazing models had the desired effect. Right now the HH faction is one of the favorites to win this year with 39 participants and 37k points pledged! This faction has moved from the margin to the mainstream in a year it is seems it’s here to stay… Just don’t underestimate the traditional powers – there is a long way to go still. So until next week, keep the new recruits coming!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3679574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Well that's a little disappointing for the BA pledges, but I am hoping that my to-do list helps that out some this ETL and that I can complete the vows to come! FOR SANGUINIUS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3679610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Well that Blows!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/290369-e-tenebrae-lux-iii/page/2/#findComment-3679613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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