Teetengee Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Maelstrom is great for chaos, especially the assaulty armies and deadlock. It forces the enemy to have a greater footprint/move towards you and encourages you to do the same to them. Except since you are almost always more assaulty than they are, this is definitely to your advantage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293238-how-to-winning-with-csm-in-7th/page/9/#findComment-3781875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorenus Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I didn't end up getting to play anyone over the weekend; both of my opponents cancelled last minute. Next week is a 1250-point tournament. I am thinking of running the following list, which is a variation off of a Khorne-themed list I've been running a lot lately (as I've commented previously in this thread and other threads). HQ1 Chaos Lord, Mark of Khorne, Juggernaut of Khorne, Axe of Blind Fury, Sigil of Corruption [170] T1: Khorne Berzerkers x 8 [162] T2: Khorne Berzerkers x 7 [143] FA1: Chaos Bikers x 6, Mark of Khorne, Icon of Wrath, Melta-Gun, Melta-Bombs [177] HS1: Chaos Land Raider with Dirge Caster [235] HS2: Chaos Land Raider with Dirge Caster [235] HS3: Maulerfiend [125] Total: 1247 As I've mentioned before, I don't particularly like low-point, small-army games like this (I much prefer, and most of my games are played at, the 2500+ point level), but I want to play in this tournament anyway. So what do y'all think? I'd appreciate any comments, thoughts, insight, jokes, or gossip. v/r --Vorenus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293238-how-to-winning-with-csm-in-7th/page/9/#findComment-3781981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Within Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Two Land Raiders at 1250 is nasty, and amusing. If they have something to deal with Land Raiders you've got a glass cannon. If you can screen the Maulerfiend with the Land Raiders as it won't be impeded by them if they are immobilized. Just remember to be aggressive and bottle the other side, and when in doubt: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293238-how-to-winning-with-csm-in-7th/page/9/#findComment-3781989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I honestly think you want dozer blades on those Raiders. You don't want terrain to cost you half of your points, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293238-how-to-winning-with-csm-in-7th/page/9/#findComment-3781993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorenus Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Good points. Thank you both, gentlemen. Incinerator950: Do you think it would be worth dropping the Melta-Gun off of the Bike Squad to add the Dozer Blades? (I'm reluctant to drop the Dirge Casters as I am leery of multiple-Overwatch from Tau's Supporting Fire rule.) I forgot to mention that the tournament won't allow Lords of War. Not that I would take one at this point level anyway, but it means I know I won't have to deal with any Imperial Knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293238-how-to-winning-with-csm-in-7th/page/9/#findComment-3782025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I'd rather cut the 8th berserker in T1 (blasphemy, I know) and add the dozer blades and a 2nd melta gun to the bikers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293238-how-to-winning-with-csm-in-7th/page/9/#findComment-3782397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 Ugh, rulespack for the GT just came out. It's 1500 points and the missions are so versatile I don't see how I can play it somewhat decent with Chaos. I really want to go with a different army, but I also really want to go with Chaos. I guess it would be interesting to see how I would do with Chaos, even though it sucks lol. Basicly, everything is allowed and everything is important: Speed, resilience, scoring, kill-points etc. Unbound is allowed as well, which complicates stuff, although I don't expect to see much Unbound, because the missions definitely favour having OS troops. Rush list wont do any good, 1500 points severly limits options and I don't feel like it can actually win the missions. Not sure yet if I will take Chaos or not, but if I do, I'm going towards something like this: Sorcerer; Balestar, Bike, Aura, meltabomb 17510 Cultists 5010 Cultists 505 Spawn; MoN 1803 Oblits; MoN 228Obliterator; MoN 76Obliterator; MoN 76Lord of Change; lvl 3, 2x greater, lesser 30520 Daemonettes 18020 Plaguebearers 180Total: 1500 It's actually surprisingly close to the type of list I played in 6th, just without Heldrakes and with Oblits instead. Also 350 points less compared to 1850, which means Be'lakor is gone. It kinda makes sense as the game hasn't changed thát much and tournaments back then already had diverse missions as well. The big Daemon troop units just help out a lot by taking objectives. Lord of Change is pretty versatile and what he does depends a lot on the powers and gifts he rolled. Hey, I killed an Imperial Knight with him in 1 round of combat before! (armourbane and re-roll to hit with a S8 staff can do that heh) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293238-how-to-winning-with-csm-in-7th/page/9/#findComment-3782473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Seen the rules. Bit hardcore for older armies. But if tournaments [besides being tests of skill and uberness] are a tool to boost local sales, they do seem to work for the new armies[well the non orcs at least]. I personaly would like to see a utility unit or another low lvl sorc. maybe the netts and plaguies to 14-16, but points are still tight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293238-how-to-winning-with-csm-in-7th/page/9/#findComment-3782610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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