Slips Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 New LA:CAL Book (called AoD) not yet for general sale yet but had a few copies up during the Weekender. Ethrion 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I believe the change is to the LA: world eaters rule not from berserker assault. But yeah that is great giving pseudo shred to our units, has anyone played a few games with crimson path I'm curious to hear how the added resilience worked out I've just been having to much fun with berserker assault lists to try anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) New LA:CAL Book (called AoD) not yet for general sale yet but had a few copies up during the Weekender. Oh ok I see, from the updated red book. And not via the berzerker rite of war but from the standard World Eater rules...wow...v.cool! Can't wait to be allowed to use this when it drops. Edit: I've found a reference to it now sorry. World eaters ‘blood lust’ is now on a 4+ rather than a roll of a 1. previous version of ‘incarnate violence’ replaced with may re-roll 1’s to wound on the turn they charge Edited March 9, 2016 by Ethrion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I think it has already 'dropped' technically since its in book 6, so you should be using it now. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 ^Just had this little discussion on Pg28 :) http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-tactica-world-eaters/?p=4326999 Guiltysparc 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 have you got a page number flint? i cannot find it in book 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) So rampager squads intrigue me I know they aren't super stellar units but I want to include them I was thinking squad with jump packs mix in a meteor hammer or 3 with a forge lord with rad grenades any thoughts Edited March 10, 2016 by Nova_chron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 So rampager squads intrigue me I know they aren't super stellar units but I want to include them I was thinking squad with jump packs mix in a meteor hammer or 3 with a forge lord with rad grenades any thoughts They'll sweep the board of infantry, but in a game dominated by MEQ & TEQ their efficacy is outshone by the glory of power weapon Veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Caeder weapons basically need some changes, as they don't particularly do much at the moment that a power weapon won't do better. There are some exceptions though that can be strong. For example the Fleshbane ones work well with the rerolls to 1 to wound in first round of combat, letting you pile on wounds onto Castellax etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Oh thats a nasty combo...fleshbane + (effectively) shred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Oh I hadn't even thought of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 i think that fleshbane caedere is only AP4 or 5 though, so...kinda meh for the points cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Yeah, the Barb Hook Lash is only Ap5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 that thing should be AP3 or have rending maybe...that would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Yeah, they aren't bad but most are situational. With the rereolling 1s change and the fact +1S is widely available the weapon that is just an unwieldy lightning claw is pretty dang useless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Eh, the Axe is cool but its Unwieldy, Two-Handed and Ap3. I'd rather just get a Power Fist at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Exactly. It's a lighting claw -1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 It should've had a Dual mode of S User Ap3 or S+3 Ap2 Unwieldy. Nova_chron and Brother Sutek 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 i was listening to a podcast the other day and they were talking about how bad unweidly is from a game design standpoint, mostly that its way overused in reference to power axes specifically. They mentioned that something that modified initiative rather than straight up reducing it to 1 would be easier to work out. That would be cool for the caedere axe, something like its current statline with -1 to I instead of unwieldy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 You mean like the Recently-Implemented Reaping Blow for Deathshroud, Mortarion and Dorn :P? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Oh yes I think that was even what triggered the discussion on the podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Yeah I wish for all 30k/40k races that a power axe would strike at -1 I and -2 for power fists. That way, characters with a higher initiative (say Polux or Dreygur - both have fists) still strike later, but before other chums with axes/fists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) ok, so i have locked in my 2500pt list. I think this will be both brutal and fun to play. Dueling Leviathans- 2500pts HQ Khârn - Gore Child, Berzerker Assault Gahalan Surlak Troops 1x 20 Despoilers, Vexilla, Sargent has Artificer/Power Fist 2x 10 Tactical Marines, Vexilla, Sargent has Artificer Elites Contemptor with Kheres, DCCW, Dreadnought drop pod Fast Attack 2x Javelins with Multi Meltas, Cyclone Missiles, and Hunter Killers Heavy Support Spartan - Flare Shield, Armored Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive Leviathan - Armored Ceramite, Grav Bombard, Siege Claw, Phosphex, Volkite Calivers, Dreadnought drop pod Leviathan - Armored Ceramite, Melta Lance, Seige Drill, Dreadnought drop pod --------- So now i need to trim this down to 2000pts since it seems like 2k and 2.5k are the most common game sizes in various events. I really wanted to keep the dual leviathans going, so i came up with this: HQ Khârn - Gore Child, Berzerker Assault Gahalan Surlak Troops 3x 10 Tactical Marines, Vexilla, Sargent has Artificer Elites 10 Verterans, power weapons, sargent has artificer/power fist Fast Attack Dreadclaw Drop Pod Heavy Support Leviathan - Armored Ceramite, Grav Bombard, Siege Claw, Phosphex, Volkite Calivers, Dreadnought drop pod Leviathan - Armored Ceramite, Melta Lance, Seige Drill, Dreadnought drop pod --------- I don't really like this list that much, i feel like having 3x10 marines just chilling out by themselves isn't great, plus it requires Khârn and Vets to be subject to reserve rolls if i want to bring both Levi's in on turn 1. So I switched up the theme a little bit and am leaning towards this instead... HQ Khârn - Gore Child, Berzerker Assault Gahalan Surlak Troops 1x 16 Despoilers, Vexilla, Sargent has Artificer/Power Fist 2x 10 Tactical Marines, Sargent has Artificer Fast Attack 2x Javelins with Multi Meltas, Cyclone Missiles, and Hunter Killers Heavy Support Spartan - Flare Shield, Armored Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive Leviathan - Armored Ceramite, Grav Bombard, Siege Claw, Phosphex, Volkite Calivers, Dreadnought drop pod Sircaran - Lascannons, Armored Ceramite With this list, i still get the Spartan/Leviathan hammer and anvil, though i wonder if i should keep the lance/drill levi instead of the grav/claw one. Also, the sicaran will add some fire support on the ground to help make up for losing the contemptor, which i don't need to take since i only have 1 drop pod to bring in on turn 1. Edited March 11, 2016 by Guiltysparc Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Looks good bro. Second 2000 list much better. Just remember if your planning on making the large tac squad inducti Khârn cannot go with them. If that's not your plan, then all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Ya, I am planning on running them as regular tacs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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