TompiQ Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Inductii are like kraken penetrators. They need one charge and you're done. A FNP save is unnecessary. Yeah, but Exhortations of Butchery are quite juicy even on a 10-man squad. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So, for only 10 more points than 10 tacs in a rhino you could bring 10 assualt marines, all with their lovely chainaxes...thoughts on using themy instead? Maybe throw an apothecary if you can squeeze the points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TompiQ Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So, for only 10 more points than 10 tacs in a rhino you could bring 10 assualt marines, all with their lovely chainaxes...thoughts on using themy instead? Maybe throw an apothecary if you can squeeze the points... Actually, it's 15 more points Honestly, with Assault Marines, go big. 365 buys you 20 plus a jump pack apotechary. They don't need much more, maybe some artificer armour on the characters and a power axe on the sergeant for 5 ap2 attacks to make sure you break terminators and such. I'd only take 10 if I was running them as Melta Bomb caddies. 225 for 10 zipping around posing a major threat to any vehicle. (as long as the GW FAQ about multiple grenades during assault doesn't stick) Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Hmm, well I am pretty certain the grenade faq will stick since it's explicitly stated in the BRB in bold font no less, lol, so they would have to errata it to work the other way. I am thinking in my 1850 list using maybe 1 assault squad to replace 1 of the tac squads and then hide them behind a spartan and rhino wall if I don't get first turn, but not sure about survivability vs tacs on a rhino. Edited July 15, 2016 by Guiltysparc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Also I am thinking in terms of a 40k meta for my 1850 list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TompiQ Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Well, define "40k meta". As far as I know, in 40k assault is futile and shooting is king. However, if your 40k meta isn't super competitive, I can definitely see World Eater assault squads succeed with their gazillion S5ap4 attacks on the charge. I'd always run artificer armour, melta bombs and a power axe on the sergeant to ensure you could tackle any target, but beyond that run them bare. That's 200 points for 41 S5 attacks that re-roll to wound rolls of 1. 36 are ap4 and 5 are ap2, meaning you should have the punch required to break pretty much any 40k unit short of monstrous creatures. More so even if you run Berserker Assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Go for Inductii's imo. S6 Attacks Re-Rolling 1s is pretty hilarious vs T4 and Weaker while also ID'ing T3 or lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TompiQ Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) If MSU inductii are the goal, run them out of dreadclaws. More expensive than Rhinos, but allows you to drop down and charge the next round. 265 points if I'd go for my preferred loadout of AA, MB and PA for the Sergeant. Edited July 15, 2016 by TompiQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I have had pretty good success against 40k armies with my list. I am still play testing it of course, but spartans and leviathans are pretty hard for any army to deal with. I play it a bit more hybrid than full assault, usually letting the spartan move up more slowly aiming for a turn 3 charge rather than flat outting and trying set up a turn 2 charge...between its cannons, the podding leviathan, and javelins i have usually soften up the other army pretty well and the Khârn & co. mop up mid game. But, still play testing and seeing how it does against tau/eldar...its an army thats basically immune to mass S6 shooting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 the change to dreadnaught drop pods has me rethinking my 2500pt list...instead of running 2 levis i htink i'll just stick with 1 and try out the praevin/vorax combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_chron Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Guilty angron would be displeased that you don't throw raving madmen full tilt into your opponent's line like all sound world eater tactics dictate you cannot capture what's behind the front. Guiltysparc 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Good, gooooood, Angron is chained up in the basement getting mad as hell until I can unleash him on the emporor's palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 World Eaters got a nice boost with this book. Cheaper despoilers and better chain axes. Cheaper land raiders and Kharybdis for delivery too Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Yeah it's a massive win for us. At 3000 points my army only costs 10pts more when all is said and done. Leaving me with str5 dudes, str6 Inductii, +1A dreads and an anvilus with guidance. Not only that but definitely including some assault marines moving forward More of this please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Your dread attacks have not changed, you just haven't been paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 ^ Wow. There's a riight way and a wrong way of saying that, and you chose poorly Terminus. Simply saying, "Actually, the Dreads gained an extra attack in the January FAQ" would have been a lot more civil. @Fangbanger, glad you gained a lot out of the updates man! :) Fenbain 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 you grow thick skin fast hanging around on these forums... I think it's just because I've been using the Cortus which has it in a the stats anyway and only just switched to using a contemptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Hi there! A friend of mine is thinking of getting into 30k (with BaC getting people into 30k is much easier) and wants to go for the World Eaters. He is thinking in getting Betrayal at Calth and also likes a lot the Red Butchers models and Khârn. What do you think that could be done with this? I am telling him to get some jump packs and build a couple of assault units, but for what I have read here to run an optimal WE list you need much more than 30 marines... Do you think that with another 10 man box it would be enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Assault marines are now super worth it. If he wants to use despoilers he needs transports. Same for Khârn and Butchers. A list of podded in butchers and assault marines will be a solid core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 World eaters Armoured rush using land raiders is super cheap now too 3 x tac squad in raiders 1 x butchers in raiders Khârn, surlak 8 x vets in an anvilus Probably around the 2000pt mark Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Thanks! About the red butchers, should lightning claws be considered or dual power axes all the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Always dual power axes. Chain Fists on the sarge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Thanks again. With the +1S chainaxes Berserker Assault is sure awesome, but what about the other RoW, with enough drop pods getting fnp could be quite easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Thanks again. With the +1S chainaxes Berserker Assault is sure awesome, but what about the other RoW, with enough drop pods getting fnp could be quite easy... You can't just give regular Marines Droppods in HH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 As Flint has said before, the fnp is good but only happens on 1/4 of the board... Hatred is 3/4 Honestly since I started running bezerker assault, I couldn't see myself running anything else Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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