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[Lord Asvaldir]

Not surprised the leviathan did very well, it's a beast these days. 

 

@Juggernut: I really like your idea of making the army of Erebus, he's always been one of my favorite 40k characters. I agree that his 30k model probably isn't chaos looking enough, I'd imagine Erebus is a bit more mutated/daemonic looking these days, but unfortunately I can't think of any images of him. Maye use his 30k model as a base and try and convert him? Another idea might be to use a dark angel interrogator chaplain as a base as I'd imagine he'd be wearing robes, just mix in some chaos part like the warp talon helmets. 

 

As for what Erebus has been up to, I'm not entirely sure but in the third book of the Word Bearers omnibus he's in a power struggle with Kor Phaeron, and I can't imagine that's over. He also must have been involved in the fall of Cadia in some way but I haven't seen any details on that. 

[Khornestar]

Thanks, m'lord. I really gotta finish the omnibus one of these days.

 

I'm kicking around ideas. I hesitate to use the Forge World model as a base because I'd probably carve a lot of details away and add/obscure others, so all that money spent on a beautiful FW mini would be wasted in a sense. Not sure what I'll use as the base, at this point. One idea is to use Zardu Layak's body, which is available from a bits seller at a "reasonable" price:

 

 

Right hand open, glowing, as if in the midst of channeling/summoning. Left hand holding a cursed crozius. Bald head (can't find a picture of it or what kit it's from), of course. One that is smirking/smiling would be great, but not sure if such a head exists.

 

I have about 30 of the Dark Vengeance chosen to work with, so I'll probably be modifying those to represent about three units of Chosen. I'd like to build a coryphaeus for him, a sorcerer or two, and an exalted champion.

[Slave to Darkness]

If your thinking about hacking up Erebus see if you can order one from Russia or China ;)

[Khornestar]

Anyone doing anything interesting with their WB lately?

[MaliGn]

I've got a hellforged predator on the go, but it's ended up on hold while I paint my Necromunda sets.

[totgeboren]

Same situation here. Got a heavily converted Leviathan with the first layers of paint that I wanna show off when done, but Necromunda stole all my hobby time! :o

[MaliGn]

At least you've got as far as paint I haven't finalised construction yet!

[Khornestar]

I bought a fair pile of bits to play with for my WB:

 

More skullcrushers (because there is no such thing as too many juggernauts)

 

Raptors and Warp Talons feet, with the goal of attaching bladed spikes to gauntlets and such

 

A standardized helmet x20 for a few units to share a cohesive look (I really like to have common elements, despite the individualized/chaotic nature of... chaos):

These:

 

Those grey knights hands (open palmed right and left, closed fists, pointing)

 

Reloading hands grasping bolter mags

 

 

With these bits and all my DV Chosen and mountains of other bits, I'm really excited about what I'll put together. With the juggernauts, I plan to build a contingent of heavily Khorne-leaning cronies of Erebus, as well.

[Akrim]

Ive made a return to my Word Bearers after a very long hiatus (5th-7th ed) playing other armies.

Working on a Machina Maelifica theme - Dark Mech elements - Rapiers, Decimator, Vindicator Laser Destroyer, etc. Figured the galaxy needed some burning.

Have some pretty big Cultist mobs going too, sometimes Renegade elements.

I know the other Legions have better traits but im loyal to the true word.

Update edit: i posted in the how to section: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344251-color-suggestion-for-dark-crimson-tanks/?do=findComment&comment=5006490

But i thought this would be the best place to ask for a modern day paint receipe for WB vehicle. Found lots on the web but mostly involve older paint types

[NoLifeKing]

I've been meddling in 30k Word Bearers for a good while, having over 5k of them painted. My gaze is now turned towards adapting my Heresy Word Bearers into the 40k era. Gona do some converting on them to make them more chaotic in their looks, as their apearances should be in the grim darkness of the  far future. 

I have been so long away from 40k game environments that i am clueless as to how to build and run the sons of Lorgar 10,000 years after the heresy. 

Do any of your brothers have proper tips on how to forge a viable fighting force of WBs at 2k points? 

[Khornestar]

Feed us army pics!

 

As to your question, what sort of units are you working with?

[NoLifeKing]

Feed us army pics!

 

As to your question, what sort of units are you working with?

I will place my army on parade and post some pics asap! 

 

But so far my 40k adaptable collection contains following units and models:

 

- 60+ Regular warrior brothers

- 2x Different converted Dark Apostles, and the First Chaplain Erebus.

- A Daemon Prince of the word, model built with duo talons.

- 3x Rhino APCs

- an chaos predator awaiting unboxing and assembly

- 2xVindicators + 3 with laser destroyers(i am under the belief that those were made available in the forgeworld book?)

- An Herald of whom im quite proud of, my intention was to use him as an exalted champion or something.

- A single Dreadclaw drop pod.

- 100+ Cultists whom are still WIP to be painted.

- about 25 of the blessed sons i have too, i hope that they may fly as "mere" possessed marines of the 41st millenium, even if the models are larger and more glorious than those offered by games workshop. 

- i suppose my Mhara Gal, dreadnought looks "hellforged" enough to be fielded as a contemptor from the forge world book.

 

My legion has done away with those among its ranks with more "military" mindset(praetors, baseline centurions), so my host would be missing the seat of its Coryphaus(chaos lord) at the moment. Up to this day the host has sailed the stars, led by the legions apostles and other religious leaders, both in prayer and battle. 

 

And in the occasion when a warriors oppinion is required, the apostles have made blood pacts with the blood god, and his servants have been quite enthusiastic about displaying some of their military prowess, so i have a decent force of khornate daemons to side my legion with, should the need arise.

to make my question more clear: is there some units in the CSM dex that i should absolutely give up hope on, or models that i should add into my collection as soon as possible, as suggested by you fellow Bearers of the Word. 

 

My goal is to build a decently competitive force to command, without completely throwing away the fluff. Such pieces of fluff that i have decided to drag with me are the two laws, of having dark apostle as part of my force, and every Heretic Astartes unit will be of the Word, despite the faithless shrieking at me about the supposed "superiority" of the Alpha Legion.

 

But as i promised earlier, i will be sharing pics of my legion force soon, perhaps later today. I await eagerly any tips or guidance you, my brothers, are willing to bless me with so that i don't have rely just on the whispers of the neverborn to guide me. Thank you in advance!

 

 

[Bloody Legionnaire]

I want to include units of Warp Talons in my Word Bearers army. How do you guys recommend running and supporting them? 

[Khornestar]

I think a sorcerer casting Warp Time on them is more or less a requirement, if you’re deep striking. A herald of Khorne within the requisite aura range will also allow them to re-roll charges and add 1 to their strength.

[Leonite]

Brothers! I need your help!

 

My local GW has a 500 point Patrol chart event going on in a week and a halfs time and I plan on bringing in my Word Bearers... but I haven't played with my Word Bearers much at any points. What do you guys advise for 500 points?

 

Incidentally, I have Daemon Engines of all kinds except for the Forgefiend, all the non FW Tanks, and Warp Talons, as well as plenty of various HQs... but I'm open to all sorts of suggestions, I can probably pull some things out.

[Khornestar]

How many cultists do you have?

[Leonite]

How many cultists do you have?

... if I scroung my collection and make some conversions? I might be able to get 40. I know I once fielded a 30 cultist geoup in 7th with a rag tag group of failed conversions... although admittedly I do have my Peasent Cultists so... at least 30-40

[Khornestar]

Well, I have no idea if you have these models, and this may be a terrible list, but:

 

HQ:

 

Daemon Prince with Wings: Slaanesh, 2x Malefic Talons, Warp Bolter, Intoxicating Elixir

 

TROOPS:

 

10x Cultists: Slaanesh, 10x Autoguns

10x Cultists: Slaanesh, 10x Autoguns

10x Cultists: Slaanesh, 10x Autoguns

 

HEAVY SUPPORT:

 

3x Obliterators: Slaanesh

 

Save your CP to allow your Obliterators to shoot twice on the turn they arrive, and use them and the Cultists to screen your daemon prince and allow him to set up a charge, because he won't be targetable until they kill everything in front of him. He can buff the Obliterators with Prescience, and can Warp Time himself or the Cultists to get in position for whatever.

[Akrim]

Not a bad list suggestion there by Juggernut.

 

Patrol lists are very small, unlikely you will run into something really uber at that level. So dont stress over it too much.

Bulk up on Cultists, Oblits are very dynamic so they can deep strike in and shoot. DP does the work in assault.

Failing that, Ive seen Terminators shine at this level as there is typically less amounts of AP/D.

Alternatively you could go for a vehicle heavy list. Take a cheapy HQ like an Exalted Champ, run him with some Cultists and bulk out on stuff like Helbrutes or Maulerfiends.

[Leonite]

Well, I have no idea if you have these models, and this may be a terrible list, but:

 

HQ:

 

Daemon Prince with Wings: Slaanesh, 2x Malefic Talons, Warp Bolter, Intoxicating Elixir

 

TROOPS:

 

10x Cultists: Slaanesh, 10x Autoguns

10x Cultists: Slaanesh, 10x Autoguns

10x Cultists: Slaanesh, 10x Autoguns

 

HEAVY SUPPORT:

 

3x Obliterators: Slaanesh

 

Save your CP to allow your Obliterators to shoot twice on the turn they arrive, and use them and the Cultists to screen your daemon prince and allow him to set up a charge, because he won't be targetable until they kill everything in front of him. He can buff the Obliterators with Prescience, and can Warp Time himself or the Cultists to get in position for whatever.

  

The Hiccup there is Obliterators. I do actually have a Daemon Princess model, and the cultists would be fine, but my Oblits are a prokect I'm working on... I'd need to find more bases to put them on first. Still, an option

Not a bad list suggestion there by Juggernut.

 

Patrol lists are very small, unlikely you will run into something really uber at that level. So dont stress over it too much.

Bulk up on Cultists, Oblits are very dynamic so they can deep strike in and shoot. DP does the work in assault.

Failing that, Ive seen Terminators shine at this level as there is typically less amounts of AP/D.

Alternatively you could go for a vehicle heavy list. Take a cheapy HQ like an Exalted Champ, run him with some Cultists and bulk out on stuff like Helbrutes or Maulerfiends.

The Terminator list I have is annoyingly unable to be fielded as I'm waiting on cash to get them Power Weapons. The Exalted Champ in a Vehicle heavy list idea on the other hand...

 

 

Hmmmm.... Exalted champ, 10 Cultists, Las Hellbrute, Plas Hellbrute, Maulerfiend. Could be fun.

[Akrim]

The Terminator list I have is annoyingly unable to be fielded as I'm waiting on cash to get them Power Weapons. The Exalted Champ in a Vehicle heavy list idea on the other hand...

 

Hmmmm.... Exalted champ, 10 Cultists, Las Hellbrute, Plas Hellbrute, Maulerfiend. Could be fun.

 

++Oh I regularly play massed walkers and cultist horde rush, its very entertaining. Personally I favor assault with my walkers so I tend to go for loadouts geared to this.

Helbrute Plasma gets bad reviews because of the mortal wound overheats. At this level I might recommend a cheaper HBolter/Scourge combo to save on pts and play very aggressively in support of the Maulerfiend (Lasher Tendrils I assume? You'd sort of need them vs bigger units).

The other Brute could easily make a good shooting platform if you paired it with a Missile Launcher and light it up with the Fire Frenzy Strategem.

[Leonite]

The Terminator list I have is annoyingly unable to be fielded as I'm waiting on cash to get them Power Weapons. The Exalted Champ in a Vehicle heavy list idea on the other hand...

 

 

Hmmmm.... Exalted champ, 10 Cultists, Las Hellbrute, Plas Hellbrute, Maulerfiend. Could be fun.

 

++Oh I regularly play massed walkers and cultist horde rush, its very entertaining. Personally I favor assault with my walkers so I tend to go for loadouts geared to this.

Helbrute Plasma gets bad reviews because of the mortal wound overheats. At this level I might recommend a cheaper HBolter/Scourge combo to save on pts and play very aggressively in support of the Maulerfiend (Lasher Tendrils I assume? You'd sort of need them vs bigger units).

 

The other Brute could easily make a good shooting platform if you paired it with a Missile Launcher and light it up with the Fire Frenzy Strategem.

It's how my brutes are built sadly. And it's unfortunately become moot... I found out theres a family event going on that day anyway.

[Leonite]

Never mind! Plans changed and my Wordbearers are going to the event! Now I just need to plan the list... and what Engines to bring. I have the Maulerfiend and two hellbrutes mostly ready as well as a Helldrake or Defiler with some work...

[Lucerne]

A squad of gal vorbak dropped into my hands lately.

 

How would you guys go about making them more 40k, doing arm/weapon swaps, or otherwise making them into M41 Word bearer abominations?

[Khornestar]

I'm in the same boat. I'm planning to chop off the guns and replace them with possessed mutations/blades.