++ The Dark Council - A Word Bearers Community ++

[Tallarn Commander]

If you get a decent Turn 1 advance roll with your Dark Apostle, the odds are good that he can stay still on Turn 2 and simultaneously lend his aura to a good portion of your army while also summoning daemons into play.

 

Alternately, bring your termie lord down with the termies on Turn 2 and then keep him stationary on Turn 3 for summoning (this is often how I summon--although I use a deepstriking termie sorc instead--because it provides you with a nice flexible midgame way to adapt to the flow of the battle).

 

You have options. :)

[Leonite]

I may just do both - I have two Daemon units to summon, and bringing down Seekers or the Masque alongside the Warp Talons could give them some serious push, or put them near the bikers to distract.

[Leonite]

Didn't turn out so well! Shoulda remembered the universal truth of this one player - he always brings Guiliman.

[Zectz]

I didn’t see anyone mention it but in the FAQ they have made Cursed Crozius and Black Mace usable on Power Mauls *and* Accursed Crozius so you can give the relic to Dark Apostle. As well as making the Dark Apostle prayers benefit from +3” Voice of Lorgar warlord trait. So that’s awesome.

[Lord Asvaldir]

That is some solid news, might run a Dark Apostle as a warlord now.

 

Has anyone tried out the new contrast paints for Word Bearers yet? I'm thinking it could be a much faster way to finish all the daemons engines I have that I've never finished. I think flesh tearers red might be the best option, but definitely something I want to test out before commiting.

[Brother_DC]

Brothers!! I have found you, this is great! 

 

I'm DC from SN Battle Reports (https://snbattlereports.com/) and i'm a son of Lorgar! 

 

I love Word Bearers, and I'm so glad I've discovered fellow bearers of the word. I’ve been hoping for a future codex or supplement that really expresses a true reflection of the XVIIth in 8th Edition! I have a small 30K army being built but mostly play Word Bearers in the 40K setting. 

 

Fluff wise:

Malik Laskar, Dark Apostle of the Word Bearers Legion has led the 28th Host, since the end of the Horus Heresy and the Legions retreat to the Eye of Terror. Smaller in number than their fellow brethren Hosts at around 200 marines, they utilise demonic possession, pacts with the Obliterator Cult on Sicarus and allegiance from one of the largest chaos cults in Eyespace, The Brotherhood of The Black Sun. 

 

The Brotherhood, numbering in the millions, believe Malik to be a prophet of the Black Sun – the Eye of Terror, and obey his every whim. Despite the Word Bearers worship of the Dark Pantheon to be unwavering, rumours of Malik’s dealings with Slaanesh has brought scrutiny from the Dark Council, and his fellow Dark Apostles. Evidence is hard to come by, leaving Malik’s rise to prominence and future seat on the Council all but assured, unless the rumours are found to be true.

 

Playing Wise:

It’s hard to make Word Bearers competitive, i’m not a ultra-competitive player (hence the Word Bearers) but I love an underdog, and I've made it my mission to try and make them work in matched play and tournaments. Would love to hear any tips or experience from brothers here on how to make Word Bearers work in a competitive setting. I normally take a Dark Apostle as the warlord, as decreed by the Dark Council, with the Voice of Lorgar + Cursed Crozius! 

 

We know our legion trait is awful. In fact, it’s the only trait I'm aware of that has a negative impact on an army (re-rolling higher and losing more to morale…) and the stratagem is now largely redundant thanks to the Master of Possession (great unit in my eyes) so it’s hard to justify taking Word Bearers competitively outside of a love for them!

 

Thanks for reading my ramblings!

 

For the Dark Pantheon! 

 

 

DC

Edited June 29, 2019 by Brother_DC

[MaliGn]

Brothers!! I have found you, this is great! [/size]

 

I'm DC from SN Battle Reports ([/size]https://snbattlereports.com/[/size]) and i'm a son of Lorgar! [/size]

 

I love Word Bearers, and I'm so glad I've discovered fellow bearers of the word. I’ve been hoping for a future codex or supplement that really expresses a true reflection of the XVIIth in 8th Edition! I have a small 30K army being built but mostly play Word Bearers in the 40K setting. [/size]

 

Fluff wise:[/size]

Malik Laskar, Dark Apostle of the Word Bearers Legion has led the 28th Host, since the end of the Horus Heresy and the Legions retreat to the Eye of Terror. Smaller in number than their fellow brethren Hosts at around 200 marines, they utilise demonic possession, pacts with the Obliterator Cult on Sicarus and allegiance from one of the largest chaos cults in Eyespace, The Brotherhood of The Black Sun. [/size]

 

The Brotherhood, numbering in the millions, believe Malik to be a prophet of the Black Sun – the Eye of Terror, and obey his every whim. Despite the Word Bearers worship of the Dark Pantheon to be unwavering, rumours of Malik’s dealings with Slaanesh has brought scrutiny from the Dark Council, and his fellow Dark Apostles. Evidence is hard to come by, leaving Malik’s rise to prominence and future seat on the Council all but assured, unless the rumours are found to be true.[/size]

 

Playing Wise:[/size]

It’s hard to make Word Bearers competitive, i’m not a ultra-competitive player (hence the Word Bearers) but I love an underdog, and I've made it my mission to try and make them work in matched play and tournaments. Would love to hear any tips or experience from brothers here on how to make Word Bearers work in a competitive setting. I normally take a Dark Apostle as the warlord, as decreed by the Dark Council, with the Voice of Lorgar + Cursed Crozius! [/size]

 

We know our legion trait is awful. In fact, it’s the only trait I'm aware of that has a negative impact on an army (re-rolling higher and losing more to morale…) and the stratagem is now largely redundant thanks to the Master of Possession (great unit in my eyes) so it’s hard to justify taking Word Bearers competitively outside of a love for them![/size]

 

Thanks for reading my ramblings! [/size]

 

For the Dark Pantheon! [/size]

 

 

DC[/size]

Welcome, but a word of suggestion, the mobile background is white and formatting your text in white makes it impossible to read...

[Brother_DC]

 

Brothers!! I have found you, this is great! [/size]

 

I'm DC from SN Battle Reports ([/size]https://snbattlereports.com/[/size]) and i'm a son of Lorgar! [/size]

 

I love Word Bearers, and I'm so glad I've discovered fellow bearers of the word. I’ve been hoping for a future codex or supplement that really expresses a true reflection of the XVIIth in 8th Edition! I have a small 30K army being built but mostly play Word Bearers in the 40K setting. [/size]

 

Fluff wise:[/size]

Malik Laskar, Dark Apostle of the Word Bearers Legion has led the 28th Host, since the end of the Horus Heresy and the Legions retreat to the Eye of Terror. Smaller in number than their fellow brethren Hosts at around 200 marines, they utilise demonic possession, pacts with the Obliterator Cult on Sicarus and allegiance from one of the largest chaos cults in Eyespace, The Brotherhood of The Black Sun. [/size]

 

The Brotherhood, numbering in the millions, believe Malik to be a prophet of the Black Sun – the Eye of Terror, and obey his every whim. Despite the Word Bearers worship of the Dark Pantheon to be unwavering, rumours of Malik’s dealings with Slaanesh has brought scrutiny from the Dark Council, and his fellow Dark Apostles. Evidence is hard to come by, leaving Malik’s rise to prominence and future seat on the Council all but assured, unless the rumours are found to be true.[/size]

 

Playing Wise:[/size]

It’s hard to make Word Bearers competitive, i’m not a ultra-competitive player (hence the Word Bearers) but I love an underdog, and I've made it my mission to try and make them work in matched play and tournaments. Would love to hear any tips or experience from brothers here on how to make Word Bearers work in a competitive setting. I normally take a Dark Apostle as the warlord, as decreed by the Dark Council, with the Voice of Lorgar + Cursed Crozius! [/size]

 

We know our legion trait is awful. In fact, it’s the only trait I'm aware of that has a negative impact on an army (re-rolling higher and losing more to morale…) and the stratagem is now largely redundant thanks to the Master of Possession (great unit in my eyes) so it’s hard to justify taking Word Bearers competitively outside of a love for them![/size]

 

Thanks for reading my ramblings! [/size]

 

For the Dark Pantheon! [/size]

 

 

DC[/size]

Welcome, but a word of suggestion, the mobile background is white and formatting your text in white makes it impossible to read...

 

 

Thanks brother! and sorry about that I didn't realise. I knocked that post up in google docs, pasted it over and the black text was impossible to read, saw the posts were in this light grey colour and just copied the text over again in white   

 

Anything I should know about the Word Bearers community here? 

[NecroShadow]

That is some solid news, might run a Dark Apostle as a warlord now.

Has anyone tried out the new contrast paints for Word Bearers yet? I'm thinking it could be a much faster way to finish all the daemons engines I have that I've never finished. I think flesh tearers red might be the best option, but definitely something I want to test out before commiting.

I have been trying out the contrast paints for my revised word bearers and they seem to do quite well, I’ve done mine over a mechanicus standard grey base to help get the dark red I wanted. Hopefully that’s helped you out.

 

[Leonite]

Yes! More to the glorious host!

 

I am Leonite, herald to the Dark Apostle Persus of the Glorious Host of the Burning Word! 

 

... or more accurately, yet another player.

[General Strike]

So, I want to do a small 1000 point word bearers fluffy force. Just for my collection, what would a good fluffy force be? Possessed, dark apostles, and chosen?

[Hellebras]

So, I want to do a small 1000 point word bearers fluffy force. Just for my collection, what would a good fluffy force be? Possessed, dark apostles, and chosen?

For a small fluffy army, I'd probably make sure to have at least one squad of cultists and a Dark Apostle. Probably a squad of regular Chaos Marines with an Icon too, I really associate Word Bearers with massed infantry and the baseline units. A pack of Possessed and maybe a daemon engine would be how I'd round it out. If I have the points left, I'd throw in a Sorcerer too.

[MaliGn]

To be honest the contents of shadowspear plus some cultists would make for a reasonably fluffy start to a word bearers force.

[Darnok]

There is no "unfluffy" way to build a WB list. The Dark Apostle leading a Host has absolute control over its composition, and may change it based on whatever portent he might have seen. This is not just my opinion, but well established in the background.

 

TL/DR: anything goes. Word Bearers are well known for their religious zeal though, so cultists and different banners are always appropriate.

[Panzer]

Actually there's hardly an unfluffy way to build any list. The options are in the Codex because it's what a Legion/Chapter/whatever can take. The games we play are often just small parts of a bigger battle and there are plenty of ways to justify unusual lists as long as you don't try to claim that it's the default deployment. ^^

[Bloody Legionnaire]

So I'm trying to decide which daemon engines to add to my Word Bearers army. I want the pewpew kind over the melee kind.. any advice?

 

Is anyone deciding to stick with the legacy scale instead of the newly released Marines for your Word Bearers? I really love the legion look so I'll be sticking with my MkIII and MkIV as far as troops and chosen go. 

[Brother_DC]

Yes! More to the glorious host!

 

I am Leonite, herald to the Dark Apostle Persus of the Glorious Host of the Burning Word! 

 

... or more accurately, yet another player.

 

Good to meet you Brother!! The fluff of your Host sounds amazing, care to share some more? 

[Brother_DC]

Also Brothers, 

 

Some of you may in interested in my first battle report with my Word Bearers against Cadia, from SN Battle Reports: 

 

 

 

Let me know what you guys think, and any tips or advice on making Word Bearers more competitive, or general feedback on the video, I'd hugely grateful

 

Thanks!

DC

[Leonite]

 

Yes! More to the glorious host!

 

I am Leonite, herald to the Dark Apostle Persus of the Glorious Host of the Burning Word! 

 

... or more accurately, yet another player.

 

Good to meet you Brother!! The fluff of your Host sounds amazing, care to share some more? 

 

Well then! Along with Dark Apostle Persus, there is the Terminator armored Coryphaus Pallus, and his Anointed bodyguards, and a few other commanders or demagouges... but they are the only pure Word Bearers, numbering 15 at most including the Terminators. The rest of the army is formed of a core of cultists - recruits or veterans who survived from sheer dumb luck, even including chaos corrupted Kroot on occasion - Renegade marines from a dozen dozen warbands, chapters and more, recruited by the sheer charisma or won over on the battle field, and Possessed Marines. But all this means that there are divergences from the Word Bearer norm, which Persus and Pallus put up with due to circumstance. Subsections, cults of the dark gods as individuals, the strongest being a hunting pack of berserker Khornates, some on bikes, some with the Butcher's Nails, and a Cult Champion mounted on a juggernaut.

 

This is a warband weak in numbers, but strong in where it bends from the norm of others as well as connections to daemons. Along with the cults, they call the Death Guard, Thousand Sons and Emperor's Children Warbands who use the same Daemon World as their own as a base comrades in arms. And it's to be expected... after all, each of the commanders beyond Pallus, who himself is a former Consul, were members of an Ashen Circle squad once. Hence the name of the Warband.

 

(Based on me using Khornate troops and collecting the other chaos armies. This is a case of me collecting models and making fluff in hindsight.)

[NecroShadow]

Well, turns out I never properly introduced my host. Well no better time considering I’ve just finished the dark apostle.

 

I necroshadow, equerry to dark apostle vulgrim, pledge myself to the teachings of lorgar and the word. May the 22nd host, known to its foes and allies as the sigil daemonic, bring ruin and revelation upon the followers of the corpse emperor.

 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Nice dark apostle - I especially like the head swap.  Looking forward to seeing more photos of your host.

[Excessus]

You guys using the new Gal Vorbak red for the armours yet? 

[Hellebras]

You guys using the new Gal Vorbak red for the armours yet? 

I've switched to it from Khorne Red for the basecoat. I can get the same tone I was getting before, but the color is stronger because I'm able to bring it back up from the Nuln Oil wash instead of leaving it dark. Word Bearers Red, on the other hand, turned out to be way too brown for me to get much use out of.

[NecroShadow]

Nice dark apostle - I especially like the head swap.  Looking forward to seeing more photos of your host.

Thanks, head didn’t fit at first but a bit of filing and cutting solved that issue. Still needs some work on the base though since I’m trying to go for a shattered marble look and my local stores are completely out of apothecary white.

 

A side note though, would the word bearers have symbols dedicated to specific chaos gods. I’m currently working on a kit bash for one of my squad champions using the plague marine arm with the bolter hanging over the shoulder and I’m unsure if I should remove the nurgle symbol from the shoulder pad or not? The idea with the arm is that nurgle blesses him more than the rest of the pantheon, explaining the nurgle tentacle growing out of that arm.

[MaliGn]

That depends on your interpretation of the Word Bearers' approach to the chaos gods. Personally I am of the view that collectively the word bearers are worshippers of chaos undivided, without preference for any one God, that said I think that they are aware of each of the big four and some of them may honour one (or more) more than the others. To this end in my own army I have a couple of squads that are dedicated to specific gods and these feature iconography from that God, but to reflect the overall balance I won't include a second unit for any God until all four have at least one each.