DemonGSides Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Karhedron said: I can't see any at all. We even still have anomalies like Sanguinary Priests being allowed to join Assault Squads on foot despite those no longer existing in the new Codex. Even if we don't get any rules updates, I assumed we would at least be brought into line with the new codex. At this stage it isn't even clear if we are supposed to use the BA Index with the new Codex or with the old SM Index. Index: Space Marines is gone on the app, so I think your end question is pretty obviously answered there. Considering we also use regular space marine points for any of the shared units, I think it's pretty well clear that we use codex space Marines and our codex is just gonna be supplemental material. We will see when DA comes out if that changes but for now, we are just Codex: Space Marines and then some. I don't think they've announced anything about further index updates. We may just be left to hang in the wind until codex time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5997338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 To me, it's clear GW rules writers put very little effort into divergent chapter's rules. Therefore, my friends and I have agreed to play "common sense" rules. Mephiston can join bladeguard, Dante can join jump intercessors, Sanguinary Priest can join Sanguinary Guard and so on... At this point a community Codex Supplement: Blood Angels would be better recieved than anything GW puts out. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5997341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, DemonGSides said: I don't think they've announced anything about further index updates. We may just be left to hang in the wind until codex time. That is the thing though, they announced a fresh batch of updates yesterday which can be found here. https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/ I have not checked all the factions but ours are just a duplicate of the original June files. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5997350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 hours ago, Karhedron said: That is the thing though, they announced a fresh batch of updates yesterday which can be found here. https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/ I have not checked all the factions but ours are just a duplicate of the original June files. Hard pressed to call that an announcement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5997414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5997517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mapple Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 My group has been using the codex for shared units and index for chapter specifics like blood angels and dark Angels, wolves, etc etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5997643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 So, why do we think GW costs our characters so much higher than most others? Mephiston at 110, Dante at 120 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5998935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Mephy is a beast (who really needs to attach to bladeguard...), though I think he could use to drop 10 points or so. For Dante, I don't really know. He certainly isn't worth 120. Edited October 31, 2023 by Paladin777 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5998951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Mephiston actually feels about right. I have been running him with Sternguard Vets now that the Serg can take a Fist and the combo works pretty well. BGVs would be nice but his biggest buff is Fights First which BGVs can get anyway from a Judiciar. Mehpy can give that buff to other units that do not normally have access to it. I have not idea why Dante is so overpriced. He is objectively worse than either Calgar or Azzy but costs more than Azzy (hard to compare price with Calgar because of his bodyguards). I think GW just value the Jump Pack too highly, same with Lemartes and Astorath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5998978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5999221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyslugger Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) Hi folks, I hope all is well I'm still plugging away at my backlog, got 5 heavy intercessors on the table currently (still to build leviathan). Got the new terminator Chaplain today (I like Chaplain models) and was wondering what people thought was the better loadout, shield or storm bolter? I like the shield, very cool in my opinion, but giving him some form of long range weapon makes more sense? Anyone built him up yet? I've looked at possibly magnetising the two, but the wrist section that attaches to the shield is soo small, I doubt I could drill a magnet into it.. Edited November 2, 2023 by happyslugger WrathOfTheLion, Blindhamster and Jolemai 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5999616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I built mine with the shield, but that was purely because I liked how it looked. DemonGSides and happyslugger 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5999643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 think the general concensus was that going from 5-6 wounds is far less useful from a toughness perspective. happyslugger, Karhedron, WrathOfTheLion and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5999648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Yeah, the Storm Bolter is probably "Better", because it's more possible damage versus a very much basically meaningless damage increase (It's only good against 1 damage weapons, otherwise, 2 damage and 3 damage are both killing him in the same number of shots). BUT, that shield is dope as hell, and he's gonna look great leading 10 other TH/SS Terminators. Though, I kinda want to build 2-3 Lightning Claws cuz they just look so cool and the Assault Terminator BA kit is full of character. Karhedron and happyslugger 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5999680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyslugger Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) He does look way cooler with the shield, so will see if I can magnetise it, but the hands are so small, I don't even think a 1x1 m magnet will fit. I could always build him with the shield and say his storm bolter is in his pocket lol Edited November 3, 2023 by happyslugger Spyros and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-5999893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 5 hours ago, happyslugger said: He does look way cooler with the shield, so will see if I can magnetise it, but the hands are so small, I don't even think a 1x1 m magnet will fit. I could always build him with the shield and say his storm bolter is in his pocket lol I thought about that too. The hand on the stormbolter is probably big enough to sneak a magnet into it but I agree it'll be a bit flimsy. I would probably just shave off the hand bit to look somewhat like a grip and then glue it to his leg. They can maglock things to whatever, right? Lol happyslugger 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6000070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyslugger Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) I did catch a tick tock video (I don't have tick tock but came up on a Google search) and a gent put up a video of him magnetising it, so it may be doable. Only need to do the shield arm as I only like the larger crozius anyway. When I get round to him, if I can make it work, I'll put up some pictures of how I did it. If I can't, I will just go with the shield I think (gun in pocket lol). Edited November 4, 2023 by happyslugger DemonGSides and WrathOfTheLion 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6000210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) I just love the look of the shield with the bones strapped to it. I know they keep going back to that well, but god do I love how it looks. Edited November 4, 2023 by DemonGSides Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6000220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostwanted Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 5:11 PM, happyslugger said: Hi folks, I hope all is well I'm still plugging away at my backlog, got 5 heavy intercessors on the table currently (still to build leviathan). Got the new terminator Chaplain today (I like Chaplain models) and was wondering what people thought was the better loadout, shield or storm bolter? I like the shield, very cool in my opinion, but giving him some form of long range weapon makes more sense? Anyone built him up yet? I've looked at possibly magnetising the two, but the wrist section that attaches to the shield is soo small, I doubt I could drill a magnet into it.. I'm painting mine at the moment and magnetised it so you can swap between the shield and Storm bolter. A 2mm x 1mm magnet fits well. The only thing you have to be careful of is drilling to far into the hand that's attached to the shied, as it's easy to drill through the palm. I stopped as the drill bit started to make the plastic go white, just before it goes right through, and it left exactly enough for the 1mm depth of the magnet. The shield and Storm bolter are very secure with these magnets. happyslugger, WrathOfTheLion, Rhavien and 5 others 4 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6000426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyslugger Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Super, so with some careful drilling we can get a magnet in there. I am working on the ballistus and brutalis dreadnoughts now (I haven't got much motivation for them though) so may do a couple of HQ models after, just to break it up a bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6000573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavien Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I kitbashed my assault intercessors with jumppacks over the last few days. Whilst they haven't found a place in a list yet, I feel the urge to build and paint at least a whole squad. DemonGSides, happyslugger, Majkhel and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6000638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mapple Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Finished the 8th game of the escalation League at my FLGS yesterday. Fun game against a warhound titan and lots of Krieg infantry and rough riders (using death rider models). I lost on turn 5 as I didn't have enough infantry left and just 2 tanks at the end of the game, so they got 15 in secondary and 10 in primary to swing WAY back and just into winning. Don't know final standings or points for the league yet. But I definitely know I'm finishing my Baal Predator! It earned it's points in every game. Edited November 6, 2023 by Father Mapple Rhavien 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6000658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Relic Contemptor Dreadnought DemonGSides, Majkhel, Jolemai and 6 others 5 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6000663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavien Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Wanted to share my new intercessor sergeant. He looks really angry I think. Paladin777, WrathOfTheLion, happyslugger and 4 others 5 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6001119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 So we've had a week a off from UotW as Index BA has finished (and because I've been away from a desktop this week), but we'll start going through Codex Marines from Monday. I originally ordered them into Characters, Units, and Vehicles, with a view to alternating through each category so I'll likely keep the structure rather than moving to Characters, Battleline, Infantry, Mounted, Vehicles - unless there's a good reason to mimic GW/Battlescribe with this? I know we've had a number of units moving to Legends (which will be tackled at a later date), but there's still a plethora of Datasheets to cover after all. DemonGSides, happyslugger and Rhavien 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/503/#findComment-6001470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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