Tzen Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Cheers Olis, though I don't think he will look as good as Magnus. I don't have the same amount of time to dedicate to him! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 That head has given me So Much More Hope for that model than I ever had from whoever did it for the promotional pics. I have been quite outspoken about how much I detest that head/face, but you sir may just have converted me! Tzen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Glad to hear it Karden! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traitor Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 He's looking great, but I must say that I like your Thousand Sons blue better (and it may or may not have to do with TS being a legion in the right side of the war) ;). Can't wait to see more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sgt. Steine Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Keep 'em comin' lad. This looks great so far. BSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Sadly I am in work for the next few days, so progress is gonna be slow. Glad folks are liking him though! Even if they aren't Thousand Sons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 So I have a new camera. http://www.golden-throne.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/RGBW.jpg My old camera basically would not do white photos. Any white background pic I had was basically just a heavily edited normal pic! :D So I am learning a lot about taking pictures on white backgrounds and I am not sure which I prefer. White or black backgrounds. GrandMagnus, Biohazard, The Traitor and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFred Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I was waiting for you to do a Gilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Slowly working my way through him. I've had an issue with my eyes over the last few days. They wont stop watering so it makes focusing on anything a pain in the backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFred Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Slowly working my way through him. I've had an issue with my eyes over the last few days. They wont stop watering so it makes focusing on anything a pain in the backside. Did your woman leave you or do you have conjunctivitis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Hahaha. I think it might be conjunctivitis. No drama, but the truth! :D RedFred 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 I have to be honest. This isn't going well. http://www.golden-throne.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rbg2.1.jpg Not sure my heart is really in the project. The blue on his chest is a mess so far, also I just can't get happy with the gold filigree on his armour. I'll keep going and get him done, it could be that I am trying to paint after a days work and I'm tired. derLumpi, Corswain and GrandMagnus 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Sounds like the musings of a heretic. A little too much time spent on Word Bearers perhaps. Tzen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Eidolon Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Mate, you are your own worst critic! I know how you feel, I'm looking at stuff I've done before and tempted to strip them all down!! The gold is spot on everywhere else, as is the blue. The actual blue on the chest isn't really a focal point, so no one is likely to see the issue you have. I'm confident the gold on the chest will work out fine! If you don't already use the gloss washes, gloss varnish the model then pinwash with earth shade gloss, it hides a multitude of sins!! Then revarnish to lose the shine. The head is still way above the official model paintjob!! So focus on the positives that way outshine the minor negative!! Take a break from him and come back refreshed, it'll change your perspective on the paintjob I'm sure!! Tzen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 So, I slept on this last night. And I realise what it is that's bugging me. http://www.golden-throne.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rbg2.3.jpg I should have painted the blue in a way that's consistent with the model and it's scale. I should have done highlights in the same way I did Magnus' muscles. Built them up where the light would hit the top of the pecs and abs. Instead I have (stupidly) tried to edge highlight the blue as I would a normal Ultramarine and it simply doesn't work. The gold I have done looks fine, it's the crappy blue underneath making it look scruffy. Sure it needs to be tidied up in places on the chest where I have been trying to fix the blue, but everywhere else it's okay. I can't go back now. The chest is done and I aint stripping him. I am just going to have to hope that when the arms and the rest is on him no one will notice. The best I can do is try to add some definition with some glazes. I cannot believe I have made such a school boy error. :( Corswain and derLumpi 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 I realise this sounds like whining. It's obviously not the worst miniature ever painted, I just like to air my thoughts out here to help me figure out what the problem is! Major_Gilbear 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Yeah, sometimes you need a sounding board :) It's your thread so if it helps, go for it! We'll just sit back and look at the pretty pictures. :) Gotta say, he's looking pretty good (especially the face) but I'm more looking forward to seeing what you do with Cypher. Edited March 19, 2017 by Corswain Tzen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I can kinda see where you are coming from with the directional highlighting but Guillemann looks abso- freakin-lootly phenomenal He has so much going on with his chest that the blue highlights look fine to me. Tzen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Working away on Roboute. http://i.imgur.com/SR8VHdi.jpg http://i.imgur.com/HgThJay.jpg Some trouble hosting my pics, so it's taken a while to do some snaps! deathspectersgt7, GrandMagnus, Biohazard and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Yes, I think I agree with your analysis of the highlighting style on the blue. To be fair though, he's such a busy model, that I don't blame you for trying to paint him like a regular 28mm technique-wise. There's also nothing wrong with being objectively critical; it's how you identify what went well, and what didn't, what works, what , and hopefully learn the lessons for the betterment of the next model. Improvement always comes faster if you can be objectively critical than it does when you rely on pure practice to get better. I still think your Guilliman looks very good nonetheless, and I hope that the satisfaction of completing him softens any feelings that you could/should have done some things differently. :) Tzen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Thanks Gilbear, he's nearly done now. I think the truth is I should have painted Cypher first. I have been so excited about painting him I have let Guilliman down. Ah well. http://www.golden-throne.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rbg33.jpg Sword arm to do then I will spend some decent time on the firey sword! :D GrandMagnus, Raztalin and Olis 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Looks great so far! :) Tzen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Thanks Mr. Bear! :D Quick break then on to the final arm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShVagYeR Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 While self-criticism may be productive, with all due respect I believe it's completely unjustified in this case. The model looks great, and it's up to your usual awesome standard. I did hard highlights on Guilliman's blue armour as well and he turned out ok, so don't beat yourself too much over this. ;) Great progress and can't wait to see him completed. :) Tzen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzen Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Thanks man. I do understand that I whine a lot in this thread, but hey ho. I don't think he looks bad. I just know I could do better! :D He's nearly finished. Just working on his sword. http://www.golden-throne.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rbg34.jpg Trying to go for a slightly darker flame to off set the bright white on the shoulder pads on the Ultramarine logo on the other Pauldron. Still need to do the final highlights, but waiting to do the other side of the sword before I do. Atia, Race Bannon, deathspectersgt7 and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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