helterskelter Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I've managed to squeeze in some of the unofficial alphabet on my eddys leg, may be a bit too obscured by weathering but its not too tough to freehand i think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3977407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctem Cultor Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Pics please! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3977454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz184/Lamenterkyle/Mobile%20Uploads/20150315_114859_zpssrzxxiat.jpg Here ya go, answers on a postcard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3977462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirokoksik Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I started to add some runes on my Jago picture (I wonder If I ever finish it xd) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3977463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirokoksik Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'm reading soul hunter right now. It's written that Septimus wrote only one sigil on Talos helmet and it meant "in midnight clad " maybe that bloody rune means that? Also he said that Nostraman is based on High Gothic maybe we should consider it somehow? And last thing. He paints 3 runes as one making them mean something else. Someone already suggested that I think we should consider it. It's kinda like for example Japanese writing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3978184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Yeah that was me. Actually the three-letters-into-one-rune was the one Septimus wrote on Talos helmet: [...] the rune for soul hunter [on Talos' helmet] actually has three letters, and together they literally mean 'ender of lives and collector of essences', which roughly translates to 'soul hunter' (omnibus p.116)My guess is that Nostraman combines letters into runes to form concepts, rather than combining symbols to make more complex symbols. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3978862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctem Cultor Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Getting no where on the artist hunt so calling it quits. So looks like we can unofficially name the FW runes anyone want to start? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3981573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Artist hunt? You mean who designed the runes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3981799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirokoksik Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 There's nothing we can do? No way to reach original artists? :c Before we name them we need to decide if they are like normal letters, syllables or maybe whole words? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3981800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I think they could be whole words, looks almost like a block/string of hieroglyphs when they're used Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3982068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctem Cultor Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 @Augustus Yeah was trying to track down the creator and my time I have to search for them has turned up nothing concrete. (Life is demanding focus else where which isn't helping) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3982764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirokoksik Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Okay as I promised I wrote down every rune I could from those photos. Also numbered them to make it eaiser to refer to them in future: http://s5.postimg.org/6wpadxezr/runes.png Aaand few of my ideas, please tell me what you think: Few runes are signed as for ex. 7 and 7` - I did that because they were almost identical except for mall differet details. If we go with option that they have their basic alphabet, then we can say this works similar to Japaneese, where you add line to change syllabels for ex. to write "ga" you write "ka" with extra line on side. In book, ADB mentioned that Talos have 3 letters combined into rune. Rune that means in short "Soul hunter" Look at rune 2. It looks like two 5`s combined. And 5 is painted on many places on armors. I thought maybe "5" mean " kill", so then 2 of those combined give another word, "Haunter". Those runes are often everywhere, I think those 2 words might have been used many times by night lords. So another question is, if they join those symbols to create more complexed runes that hae their own specific meaning, do they "merge" them into one symbol, or maybe write them next to each other in specific way, like in many Asian languages, where they pile up few sybols into one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3983604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 That's a really impressive step forward right there. Awesome work, Piro. If we look at the rune for soul hunter in Shane Cook's iconic art, there's two almost mirrored seperate scribblies which together make the 'soul hunter' rune. But the novel says there's three letters combined that make the rune. Given that, I think Nostraman combines the runes both in a way that they 'belong together', but also merge them together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-3983612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirokoksik Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 hey hey hey, it was quite silent in here for some time. I think big step forward is new Forgeworld release - transfer sheet for Night Lords! And look there - runes! All of them! I think if someone could get there better photo of all of them from there it could be really helpful! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-4054495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I will try to upload here in a minute Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-4055981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 yes I totally zoomed in on the photo took and screen shot and then uploaded it to pintrest and then copied the link and posted here...your welcome... Ohhhh you wanted them a bit closer... HOW ABOUT THIS... The Night Haunter Approves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-4055985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirokoksik Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 those photos are too pixelated :c I managed to find more or less 45 symbols, but as we can see on this sheet there are less of them :I Also my friend suggested maybe we`ll inspire when translating like cyryllic or ... i don`t knwo translation of it, "grażdanka" - it`s kind of cyryllic that is used nowadays. Also what about fuþark runes? Ones where each symbol means each letter and have own meaning too? Then we can still have that one symbol that is everywhere as a word ( like " kill") and also a letter :) Space wolves runes are based on this runic system. I showed him thoe runes he said few of them are those runes, but bit deformed or turned :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-4060002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Great work everyone, good that this get's picked up again. I think we have already agreed that NL runes function like the norse fuþark runic system in that each rune has a conceptual meaning of its own (like 'horse', 'kill'', 'sword'', etc.) and also function as a letter ('s sound) in words. @Piro: I think it is awesome you found more runes , let's not use the transfer sheet as the definitive guide as that could potentially limit is too much. - use the additional ones too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/298480-nostraman-runic-alphabet-and-numerals-font-fw-runes-too/page/4/#findComment-4060029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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