Kol Saresk Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'd argue it mostly depends on what you plan throwing it at. The Unfettered Fury is basically your ol' joe BT that's good for standard combat. The Wrath of Khorne has an AP4 Flamer that's good for getting some hits in before the melee, followed by an Axe of Khorne AP2 at I and Bloodflail that can either be used in Shooting or CC, with Shooting as S7, AP2 Assault D3 or an AP2 Specialist at I. So the Wrath is set up perfectly for killing HQ and Retinues. Then you get Insensate Rage. This guy is walking anti-armor. You'd want to keep him away from mobs and then throw him at DK, IK, other FMC and any Lords of War your opponent may have brought. Sure, he'll hit last but he hits hard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4005391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Played my second game yesterday with my Daemonkin, a just over 1000pt game against Tyranids, i lost in the end 7 to 4 on victory points, though he had very few models left on the table. my army was a combo of the Slaughtercult plus the Gorepack. things ive discovered: 1. Gorepack is awesome, I always surprise my opponent with them and how fast they can move especially the scouting flesh hounds. 2. The sword of endless bloodshed is great combined with the bloodhost bonus point which is so useful! I mainly used for it the extra attack, feel no pain and at one point a unit of flesh hounds. 3. single spawn are useful as distractions and cannon fodder, i go for two in my list, one deployed on each flank. 4. My army needs some heavy firepower to deal with armour and flyers, thinking a hellbrute and a soulgrinder for bigger games. how good is a soulgrinder? As with the others, this force is fun and entertaining to play :) even if there are a couple of minor things about the codex i don't like, though i am willing to forgive because of how much fun i am having with this force. I do intend to go for the bloodthirster with the big axe too simply because of the fun of the destroyer weapon and the awesome model :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4005522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfalypse Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Played my second game yesterday with my Daemonkin, a just over 1000pt game against Tyranids, i lost in the end 7 to 4 on victory points, though he had very few models left on the table. my army was a combo of the Slaughtercult plus the Gorepack. things ive discovered: 1. Gorepack is awesome, I always surprise my opponent with them and how fast they can move especially the scouting flesh hounds. 2. The sword of endless bloodshed is great combined with the bloodhost bonus point which is so useful! I mainly used for it the extra attack, feel no pain and at one point a unit of flesh hounds. 3. single spawn are useful as distractions and cannon fodder, i go for two in my list, one deployed on each flank. 4. My army needs some heavy firepower to deal with armour and flyers, thinking a hellbrute and a soulgrinder for bigger games. how good is a soulgrinder? As with the others, this force is fun and entertaining to play even if there are a couple of minor things about the codex i don't like, though i am willing to forgive because of how much fun i am having with this force. I do intend to go for the bloodthirster with the big axe too simply because of the fun of the destroyer weapon and the awesome model Gorepack has nothing to do with how fast Flesh Hounds are unfortunately, you can just do Daemons with regular Hounds and they are exactly the same cept not fearless (instability). Yeah, not much in here that has any sort of range. You can either Ally in some CSM and take Oblits or something and that should help. Even Termicide squads would be helpful and sorta fit the theme of the Daemonkin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4006693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Termicide? I'm trying to stick to the theme of the blood host detachment to be honest though some of the helbrute formations interest me, obliterators could be fun though :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4006745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FENRISÚLFUR Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Termicide? I'm trying to stick to the theme of the blood host detachment to be honest though some of the helbrute formations interest me, obliterators could be fun though 'Termicide' is smaller units of terminators with combi weapons. They deep strike in to take out a specific target, and are a sacrificial unit more times than not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4006777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 ....and will net you hopefully a blood tithe when they arrive, and if when die, net you another. I am working on some possessed for use with the Slaughtercult, however I can't see me using it exclusively for reasons like the above termicide; I have had a load of FW Khorne Terminators in my bitz box for, like, forever! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4006865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreaper84 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Question on the Rage thirster...bieng that this dude is going at init 1 as anyone finding he dies to knights before he swings or such. Seems unlikely as the thirster is hard to hit and such but just checking Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4006874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'll be making mine in that configuration, I would have thought there is a chance but well worth the trade off when he does hit. I would have thought stomp attacks would be worrying however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4006877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Stomp's are always an issue, any D hit is, but if you dont get stomped, odds are good your wrecking something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4006884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think the odds of wiping out the knight and surviving are pretty decent. Even with mutual destruction, if one were to care about "making points back" the thirster would do that, and then some. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4006933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hopefully can provide some useful feedback this week, trying out a small 1000pt list of Daemonkin rather than my usual Crimson Slaughter (which conveintently enough have the same paint scheme).By shoe-horning in a Soul Grinder to make it a Blood Host, I'm hoping that the bonuses will stack up fast enough to justify the points cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4007224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Termicide? I'm trying to stick to the theme of the blood host detachment to be honest though some of the helbrute formations interest me, obliterators could be fun though 'Termicide' is smaller units of terminators with combi weapons. They deep strike in to take out a specific target, and are a sacrificial unit more times than not. thanks, good plan one I may have to consider. so MSU with what weapon combo then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4007238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Termicide? I'm trying to stick to the theme of the blood host detachment to be honest though some of the helbrute formations interest me, obliterators could be fun though :) 'Termicide' is smaller units of terminators with combi weapons. They deep strike in to take out a specific target, and are a sacrificial unit more times than not. thanks, good plan :) one I may have to consider. so MSU with what weapon combo then? I like combiplasma for riptides/broadsides and combimelta for vehicles. Usually just power axes for close combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4007260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreaper84 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 So apparently a lord and herald both tooled up snarffing up the field with dogs kills everything? Also with the Charnel court in tow deep striking makes the world your oyster. And props to whomever 1st suggested the AoK with Goredrinker, I was confused at first due to the language of the rules but after re-reading and gaining consensus among my meta it seems to indeed be a model buff and not on the weapon itself, soo.......he proceeded to murder face the next game with said load out. Only prob is that he is swinging last while he ramps up and with his unit there isn't a lot left usually. Not to big a deal but just forces the issue of who's gunna challenge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4007660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minionboy Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 So apparently a lord and herald both tooled up snarffing up the field with dogs kills everything? Also with the Charnel court in tow deep striking makes the world your oyster. And props to whomever 1st suggested the AoK with Goredrinker, I was confused at first due to the language of the rules but after re-reading and gaining consensus among my meta it seems to indeed be a model buff and not on the weapon itself, soo.......he proceeded to murder face the next game with said load out. Only prob is that he is swinging last while he ramps up and with his unit there isn't a lot left usually. Not to big a deal but just forces the issue of who's gunna challenge. This is why I also give my terminator lord a power sword. Rack up the kills with the sword, the axe is only there when I need Ap2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4007872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 So going to hopefully try running Daemonkin tonight vs a friend if mine whos learning to play. Hes borrowing my SWs (who depending on how much i like daemonkin may be turning to khorne) with some GKs in my list us as goes HQ Daemon Prince Daemon of Khorne Flight Blood Forged Armour Troops 8x Cultists 8x Cultists 7 auto guns Fast attack 8 flesh hounds 5 raptors 2 flamers Rhino Heavy Support Chaos defiler twin linked lascannon scourge Quite fast and can hit quite hard in cc :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4007965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreaper84 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 you know I was just thinking about a list led by a DP in the armor.....then I realized that a thirster is the same cost. Now I don't really know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 In my case i love DPs i dont have a thirster model plus hes supposed to represent my warbands former chapter master Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oreaper84 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 well he could technically still have parts of the former leader stuck in his hair/horns.....though ive never popped a ballon from the inside out so I cant really say for sure Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Well considering the leader ascebded to daemonhood i doubt thats likely :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strazhakov Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Good to hear people are having fun and sucess with the codex. Lets all hope we get something like this for all Greater Powers. I'd sell my soul for a Slaanesh Noisekin codex^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Good to hear people are having fun and sucess with the codex. Lets all hope we get something like this for all Greater Powers. I'd sell my soul for a Slaanesh Noisekin codex^^ Dont you mean slaanesh painkin :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Slaanesh Painkin, Nurgle Plaguekin, Tzeentch Changekin maybe? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspiringchaoschampion Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 That works haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Would have said Slaanesh Foreskin personnaly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305221-khorne-daemonkin-discussion-tactics-background/page/20/#findComment-4008515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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