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NIce.

 

LAst night played a 2 Vs 2 game, Orks and me Vs, BA and BT.

 

BA player had an odd list of 3000points of Scout bikes, Scouts and TAc marines.

 

Now the guy isn't a bad dude, but sometimes he can really get on my nerves.

 

Specially when my GoreAxe lord and Bloodcrushers( first time i've been using them since forever) Kills models-because thats what they are supposed to do- and looks at me saying " And you guys dare complaining that Chaos isn't strong enough...

 

Wish i could Bitch-slap people sometimes

Wow a 6000 per side game?

 

How did the bloodcrushers do for you? It'd love to do the termie/crusher formation for fun one day. If only they were T5 they would be gold!

 

 

Well i've just included a basic without any options Crusher unit, because its been a while that i din't play them( since the first CD codex...), and since sometimes lately we do games over 2000pts i though it was the perfect time.

 

They did well, but again since i was playing with an ork player who had 2 Gorkanauts and 2 War chariots and lots of Lootas and boyz, i wasn't really the main target, so any shot with a Str higher then 7 targeted the Orks or my Maulers and Soul grinder.

 

Also since the BA guy played a list with no heavy weapons other then Scouts heavy bolters and plasma marines, my Crushers din't really fear anything.

 

Also since neither of them really faced Crushers before, they where kinda ignored.

 

Now the Crushers completly annihiliated a 10 men TAC squad, 2 died of HoW and the rest where chopped to bits with the infernal blades.

 

You can say what you want but 4 Attacks WS5 Str 6 AP3 per dude is still pretty mighty.

 

Now if the guy had Meltas, MLaunchers and stuff and din't ignore them, i dunno how they would have fared honestly.

 

Does anyone else have problems overextending with Flesh Hound scout moves? I really need to learn to go say, eight inches so that I stop being charged.

 

Dragonlover

 

 

Thats something i neved had since its an error that i've seen many people commit, even when i was still playing CSM.

 

Usually White Scars and Ravenwing players who would scout then move and be like 12" of my units, trying to cause havoc with their firepower.

 

But since most people only aligned units of 5 bikes, to have more and keep it cheap, just 8 bolter shots and 1 or 2 meltas arn't enough to completly destroy my units, it could immobilise/destroy my Rhino and LR, but when facing this kind of opponent, i always deployed my CSM unit outside the rhino, so they could counter attack and since units can still assault when an assault transport is destroyed, the destruction of my LR is just a minor setback, since everyone was on my doorstep and i just had to reach out to murder them.

 

Because that was something those guys din't get for a long time, This kind of tactic is useless with a full Khorne list, i enjoy the fact tht they are so close, less trouble for me to get there, also all my models usually has, as many attacks, that they have models in their units...

 

And the fact that you have FC, greatly helps negate the bikes Thoughness.

 

I've never lost to someone who made a full scout move with a biker army.

 

So in brief, when i started playing Hounds with my KDK, i allready new all the advantages and weakness of Scouting.

 

Now you can also use this as bait, scout a few small 5 hounds units, right under the nose of your opponent.

 

Either he will shoot at them, thus you've just saved others units of your army, and if they all die, it makes Blood tithe points for you.

Either he will not shoot at them or as much and you will have all the leasure to assault next turn, or even if he assaults them, he will have to come out of his deployement zone, thus he will be closer to your how units, and Hounds in most cases are good tarpit units that can also dish out some pain.

 

Sometimes its necessary to scout, some times its not, all depends on the type of army and opponent you face.

 

Thats the thing that some people do wrong, they always try to scout, even if its just a short term advantage.

Here's a group shot of the 10. I'm thinking of naming the champion Numenor. Lord of the Rings reference, there. Thus, the 10-man squad is known as "Numenor's Fang." Similar to the way loyalist SW have packs, the Fangs of Cerberus have... fangs! I'm so creative. *chuckle*

 

http://i.imgur.com/lPK1bSih.jpg

 

And here's the champion for the second unit. I think I'm gonna steal a former aspiring champion's name and call him Sarkon. As you may guess, Sarkon is a big fan of fighting in challenges:

 

http://i.imgur.com/s8hHQ9Oh.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/1ZnN5NWh.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/bRq7hZOh.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/Caw8Pv0h.jpg

 

These are fantastic. I personally could see painting them up with those bone white death helmets shown in the codex. I don't know why but that special marking just really appeals to me for these guys.

I despise putting models together but if GW actually made a squad like this I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Really great job you've done with these.

Damn, thanks so much for your kind words. I'm glad you like 'em, Prot.

 

NIce.

 

LAst night played a 2 Vs 2 game, Orks and me Vs, BA and BT.

 

BA player had an odd list of 3000points of Scout bikes, Scouts and TAc marines.

 

Now the guy isn't a bad dude, but sometimes he can really get on my nerves.

 

Specially when my GoreAxe lord and Bloodcrushers( first time i've been using them since forever) Kills models-because thats what they are supposed to do- and looks at me saying " And you guys dare complaining that Chaos isn't strong enough...

 

Wish i could Bitch-slap people sometimes

Yeah, that is a frustrating experience. Naturally, losing to another army means the opponent is overpowered. It has nothing to do with skill, luck with dice, or poor choices on the opponent's part. Chaos is secretly OP and we constantly complain about our army to trick people into thinking we're weak so we have an easier time winning...

 

 

I din't catch on this until later Venom, but yes sometimes its frustrating, if you are better then them in areas that you are supposed to be better, suddenly we should stop complaining about all the things that wrong with the codex...

 

Also making believe that we're weak to trick the opponent, could be a CSM tactic, at least for Alpha Legion...

The first member of Sarkon's Fang. I think I'm gonna make this a bolt pistol/CCW unit.

 

I like him, but I think I may raise the angle of his left arm a little:

 

http://i.imgur.com/omjFsPEh.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/3GOMBnvh.jpg

This morning's creation. I have a lot of cleaning up to do, but he's pretty decent. In the version of the codex I'm using, CSM can take power weapons 1:5, so here's a power axe:

 

http://i.imgur.com/jvgnYmgh.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/jEzHk3Ph.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/TWwdASWh.jpg

 

I remember why I didn't make kdk, lack of energy or concise ideas.

Haha! That's one of my many excuses for lack of painting. :P

 

Having a huge repository of bits helps for the building, though.

I don't even have the models assembled. I 2nd hand umbra bolters for grit marines and I haven't assembled a damn thing.

 

I was itching to just make more pms but I haven't even taken them out of the package.

 

Honestly I'm at a loss on what to do, but I never make time from either my two jobs or gamingvto do it.

I honestly think it's about getting some stuff done. Personally I wanted to try something new for chaos. Did I want to paint "dogs"? Heck no.

 

I have found you finish a squad of something, then you field it... it becomes very rewarding. Next thing I know I'm cracking open two Bloodthirster boxes... couldn't wait to finish those. Then of course the possessed tax had to be done. Loved how they turned out. Inevitably you start seeing your army in colours on the table and it is addictive. 

 

The worst is seeking perfection. For years I spent weeks and weeks on a stupid squad. Often pining over the most minute detail that no one would ever see. Now I see the value in finishing stuff and moving on, even if you think you could do more; we can always do more no matter the skill level. Moving on is very potent in painting armies. (See my Ultramarine thread in the Honour forum - it (and a grey knight army) was done in 12 months.)

 

You can do this... I see venom posting a lovely fig every other day. He easily could have painted it by now. It could have motivated him to do something even better for an encore, but we'll never know. ;)  (Venom you know I just want to see you get those guys painted!)

It's often easier to turn the xbone on after working forteen hours, or pass out. The last time I put my hands on a model was to re-stem my TIE Punisher because the stand snapped off.

 

I basically have to decise what I want first, as I'm at the point I don't want to commit more money.

It's often easier to turn the xbone on after working forteen hours, or pass out. The last time I put my hands on a model was to re-stem my TIE Punisher because the stand snapped off.

I basically have to decise what I want first, as I'm at the point I don't want to commit more money.

Yeah man, I hear ya. I don't have quite as crazy a schedule as you do, though. What I have done is amass an insane collection over the past few years, a gargantuan chunk of which is still unbuilt. I also jump from project to project constantly.

 

Some of it has to do with the perfectionism Prot mentioned. I have this crazy idea that things should look golden daemon quality while I totally lack the skills. But I can't use my favorite models to practice and hone my skills, because they must look good!

 

With the berzerkers I'm just going for it. After them, the rest of the Fangs will get painted. By the time I get around to all the juggernauts I'll have some things figured out. Just don't have the time to get them all done in one fell swoop. I have so much left to build :)

 

Then there's the HUGE traitor guard army... Don't get me started on that!

Well, I want more marine bodies than demons. It's not competitive, but I would prefer them simply for grit khornate marines that look like chosen.

 

It's that or Pms or NMs. NMs look fun with havocbacks, and pms are the easy route as I bought umbras for two msu units.

See my problem with Khorne is the lack of psykers fluff wise however i think ive found a way to get around this. My thinking is

What if a Librarian who favors close combat over all else gives into rage? From a game play point of view hed only ever use malefic or biomancy as both of them fit khornes view. We know he dosent hate magic weapons he just hates people who kill using sorcery so technically as long as the psyker is buffing himself/his own guys khorne wouldnt care.

Il probably run a unbound mix of csm and KDK for this

You don't have to reach that far to find a precedent for finding 'tolerated' Psykers in Khornate forces.... particularly CSM/World Eaters. In Betrayer the psychic communion created by the World Eater's surviving LIbbies keep the Primarch alive.

KDK newbie here.. this is quite the thread you guys have going!

 

Venom, I love those Marines, they look great. I plan on having a marine heavy KDK Army more so for looks and personal satisfaction over competitiveness. I really feel like Chaos Marines in KDK lists are under valued and are much better units than they are given credit.

KDK newbie here.. this is quite the thread you guys have going!

 

Venom, I love those Marines, they look great. I plan on having a marine heavy KDK Army more so for looks and personal satisfaction over competitiveness. I really feel like Chaos Marines in KDK lists are under valued and are much better units than they are given credit.

 

Thankyouverymuch! I dunno about their effectiveness on the tabletop, but I think they're way cooler than the lesser daemons. If berzerkers are one-dimensional, I'd say Khornate CSM are at least two-dimensional :P. What does that make bloodletters? Half a dimension? :blink.: Whoooooa....

 

KDK newbie here.. this is quite the thread you guys have going!

 

Venom, I love those Marines, they look great. I plan on having a marine heavy KDK Army more so for looks and personal satisfaction over competitiveness. I really feel like Chaos Marines in KDK lists are under valued and are much better units than they are given credit.

 

Thankyouverymuch! I dunno about their effectiveness on the tabletop, but I think they're way cooler than the lesser daemons. If berzerkers are one-dimensional, I'd say Khornate CSM are at least two-dimensional :tongue.:. What does that make bloodletters? Half a dimension? :blink.: Whoooooa....

 

 

 

Well at 80-85 pts, they can afford to be half dimensional. Sure they're like that pretty girl that doesn't have a lot on the ball, but if she breaks up with you, you don't really miss her do you?

 

The Zerkers don't do a heck of a lot more, but they're the full package and when they decide to leave you.... it's a painful breakup. ;)

 

The Bloodletters are a nice, cheap gateway to some of the more interesting units in the Bloodhost, but at least they provide some function on a discount.

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