Arbarbalus Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) I find they are simply effective at cost (7 for 175pts). I run reaping so as you say they are scoring, a good deployment and you can dominate an area. Yes we dont have the acid shell malarky but the 36" range and volume of fire really hurts most things. Plus it puts off units like thallaxi from floating in to your rear areas... Nobody wants a thallaxi in the rear. Edited June 5, 2017 by Arbarbalus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4772302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I agree with the 15-man squad suggestion. Big enough to require focus fire from your opponent, but not too unwieldy on the tabletop. Also cheaper. Glaive is amazing, but it definitely requires some finesse. Perhaps deploying it far to one side with the 2 Sicarans (I'm not sure of your loadout on them, but having 4 heavy bolters is some serious dakka). They can move 12" and still be quite effective, meaning they can flank your Glaive and offer some protection. Very impressed with your list - it is the right balance of competitive (phosphex Quad Launchers, Spartan) and fluffy (Tactical Blobs, only 1 unit of Quad Launchers). Nice! Thanks Callium - I generally try to go for all-round lists, and I'm just trying to perfect versatility in a list! It was definitely nice to mix it up and not use Mortarion for a change - and give those under utilised units a go. I'd definitely agree with the placement thing, the additional challenge was utilising it on an Urban City board, so hopefully some alternative terrain set-ups and against some different lists will help show the Glaive's full utility in future. 15 man squads I always play. Gives them a nice balance always give you srg art armour as a min. Usually a power axe and/or melta bombs if s£%t hits the fan I think AA is pretty standard now! My only concern is over equipping and them still dying..! I tend to not put them front and centre initially, just given the prevalence of AP2. I'm going to need to build some more Sergeants with something more than Power Fists (just my normal go-to weapon). Are Heavy Bolter squads that good? I mean, we aren't DA Acid shells?! Or is it just weight of dice and the fact they sit back and score? ...Plus look fly as hell. Being on the receiving end of the Dark Angels' ones made me consider them! Definitely the weight of dice, and variable AP, can really put a dent in Tacs - and made me thankful for an Apothecary. I'm not too sure whether they would have the same effect if fielded from a Death Guard perspective, but I'm going to build up a squad for variety (it's on my to-do list with two Missile Launcher squads). I think running the Reaping might be interesting (and something to experiment with), particularly in missions needing an abundance of scoring units - and hopefully would be visually impressive too with all those Marines! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4772897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Any recommendations for leviathan weapon fits? I am unlikely to be drop podding... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4781945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I walk mine up the field with a melta lance and drill. Volkites for bit of range and phosphwx launcher. Works well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4782085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Storm Cannon is pretty good if you are walking for the extra range! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4782497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I may have to drop a land raider to squeeze the big boy in, i may have to test run both melta lance and storm cannon... anyone face iron hands regularly? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4783116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Melta lance it is then lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4783213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 You may have a point. Lol I mistakenly turned the page to deredeo... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4783700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I will say, it's a real testament to the inexorable nature of the XIVth as to how we keep this thread going when the others aren't as active ;) LtDan and 1ncarnadine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4783843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Well cant you run a dreadeo and leviathan lol. I have both. Love dreads. Heavy support is so contested tho with wardens in it too. And my trusty medusas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4784233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) I have 6 standard dreads... sometimes run a pair. Perhaps your are correct i need a deredeo and a leviathan. Hah hah. Heavy support, definitely congested; medusas, vindicators, predators, wardens, leviathan, deredeo. If only we could make leviathans fast attack. Edited June 16, 2017 by Arbarbalus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4785093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I will say, it's a real testament to the inexorable nature of the XIVth as to how we keep this thread going when the others aren't as active ;) We shall endure. If even one of us stands then victory can be acheived... even if it is talking to yourself... Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4785113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 What is this fast attack you talk of lol?? My medusas' are auto includes most games for me then see what I can include from there. We usually play quiet open so will know if flyer in list or not. Tho dreadeo is good at striping hull points off most things anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4785964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 What is this fast attack you talk of lol?? My medusas' are auto includes most games for me then see what I can include from there. We usually play quiet open so will know if flyer in list or not. Tho dreadeo is good at striping hull points off most things anyway I am suitably reprimanded for my abherrant thought. Yeah, normally pretty open here as well. See a few drop pods and flyers on rotation. Often take them down with twin links. Pretty much settled its a leviathan next for me, think it will be storm cannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4788715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Haha. Tbf a stormcannon is alright at shooting flyers with 6 shots anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4789021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 So which do people prefer, blast (and large blast) or multiple shots? I tend to multiple shots where i can ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4789329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 If in doubt multiple blasts lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4789405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I will say, it's a real testament to the inexorable nature of the XIVth as to how we keep this thread going when the others aren't as active I think this is in part to A) awesome people and B) we dont have any stand out, 'I win' builds so we have to think harder to put lists together. 1ncarnadine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4791603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I will say, it's a real testament to the inexorable nature of the XIVth as to how we keep this thread going when the others aren't as active I think this is in part to A) awesome people and B) we dont have any stand out, 'I win' builds so we have to think harder to put lists together. I'll take both of those! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4791924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I will say, it's a real testament to the inexorable nature of the XIVth as to how we keep this thread going when the others aren't as active The XIVth will always endure. Maybe past loyalty, reason and sanity. But the XIVth always endure ;) Marshal Loss and Plaguecaster 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4792516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Well looks like HH is staying 7th ... or atleast a main rules set based on it. Check out warhammer community site for more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4798135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 As they said at the weekender. Basically it's just a 7th rulebook with relevant stuff centralized and the fat trimmed out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4799053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 As they said at the weekender. Basically it's just a 7th rulebook with relevant stuff centralized and the fat trimmed out! Which is awesome. Charlo, Marshal Loss, LtDan and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4804699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Castle Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 How do people equip their apothecaries, mainly for use in tac blobs using the reaping? do they keep them base? also, would you give them rad grenades in addition to the Sergeant or spread the cost around? I'm already giving the Sergeant AA and a scythe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4805320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Maybe worth giving him the rads, so you can still have them if your sarge eats it on a challenge. Artificer is nice as well but maybe unnecessary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/41/#findComment-4805544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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