+++E Tenebrae Lux IV - Realm of Chaos Strategium+++

[thamier]

i feel so slow, sitting building and converting all i can but it dosent feel like anything is ready for actual paint yet, and im wirryed cause chaos isent in the lead already

[Forté]

It's not about the sprint. This is literally the first few steps. Focus on completion and finishing with those amazing models you have planned and can visualize. Don't look at the early numbers. Also don't forget that there's a lot of high point value HH stuff since last year and they the Templars and the rest have had to join forces to have a chance.

[Iron Skull Mask]

i feel so slow, sitting building and converting all i can but it dosent feel like anything is ready for actual paint yet, and im wirryed cause chaos isent in the lead already

I know how you feel there, I spent the evening yesterday breaking apart and fixing the bikes I bought in varying degrees of being built. Man, I tell you, breaking glued stuff apart without actually breaking it, is a science of its own. But now I'm almost ready to start building the stuff the way I intend to. Anyways, we got plenty of time left, so relax and keep to it, and success will inevitably show.

[Forté]

Let's go people. Tell those other enlightened souls you know to join the ranks and offer their souls to Chaos.

Great rewards await the bold.

[Dragonlover]

What Forte said. I've started with the Brass Scorpion, and I've got the distinct feeling this'll be a one vow year for me, because this thing this about three miles of trim. It's gonna take me bloody ages.

 

Dragonlover

[Razblood]

Finally finished laying down the off-black layer, from here it's all gravy :lol:

[Aspiringchaoschampion]

I agree with what Forte said 100% id rather have few models which look amazing tham loads that look bleurgh. Im a crap painter so im jist going to try and make the models im entering look good. Ps does it matter if the before pics are of the models when they are primed?

[Forté]

Primed pics are more than ok. Just no further than primed if possible or Semper will have to decide whether to allow it or not.

[Aspiringchaoschampion]

Thamks haha im gonna prime my oblits before i post a pic of them after being in dettol they look abit slimy lol

[Eldrick Shadowblade]

 

Squad Forsaken progress slow but steady...

Do I spot a few drilled holes in backpacks. Anything attaching to those?

 

Squad Forsaken progress slow but steady...http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k312/Shadowblade77/71866f9ad53b65630b1fa85585857102_zpstxjvhnd7.jpg

 

Those are some really cool bases! Where did you get them?

Thanks! I made them with baked sculpey.

It's really easy. Maybe I'll do a tutorial. You just need sculpey and a hand cranked pasta maker.

[oldschoolsavant]

Okay, couple of quick questions regarding compliance:

 

Marks ? I can understand mono-god paintschemes, yep, but where would I stand on applying the MoT on these IW ?

Here & here ?

 

Basically, I was aiming for the shields to account for the 6+ save. Acceptable if it's only those with shields ?

 

Secondly, that squad of six will be folded in, albeit with new heads and possibly arms. Well past priming, but could I proxy some new spares to account for them, applying to the vow completion but not the points ?

[TheDevourer]

Last year MoN was represented using shields I believe.

I think going an extra step considering the detail of the model will usually warrant you the points (correct me if I'm wrong Captain)

 

Regarding the second question: I'm not sure, you'll have to wait for semper.

[Captain Semper]

Okay, couple of quick questions regarding compliance:

Marks ? I can understand mono-god paintschemes, yep, but where would I stand on applying the MoT on these IW ?

Here & here ?

Basically, I was aiming for the shields to account for the 6+ save. Acceptable if it's only those with shields ?

MoT: Mark of Tzeentch right?

Well, there is no hard and fast rule of how you represent a Mark. You have to convey that in a way that satisfies WYSIWYG in the loose sense... I guess the shields is a good proxy for the 6+ save - and I'll go for it. But the more you can add (even subtle details) the better...

Secondly, that squad of six will be folded in, albeit with new heads and possibly arms. Well past priming, but could I proxy some new spares to account for them, applying to the vow completion but not the points ?

I am not sure I follow... A picture would help (and some re-wording, I'm really lost ).

[Forté]

Thanks! I made them with baked sculpey.

It's really easy. Maybe I'll do a tutorial. You just need sculpey and a hand cranked pasta maker.

And the backpacks holes? ;)

[oldschoolsavant]

Okay, couple of quick questions regarding compliance:

Marks ? I can understand mono-god paintschemes, yep, but where would I stand on applying the MoT on these IW ?

Here & here ?

Basically, I was aiming for the shields to account for the 6+ save. Acceptable if it's only those with shields ?

MoT: Mark of Tzeentch right?

Well, there is no hard and fast rule of how you represent a Mark. You have to convey that in a way that satisfies WYSIWYG in the loose sense... I guess the shields is a good proxy for the 6+ save - and I'll go for it. But the more you can add (even subtle details) the better...

Secondly, that squad of six will be folded in, albeit with new heads and possibly arms. Well past priming, but could I proxy some new spares to account for them, applying to the vow completion but not the points ?

I am not sure I follow... A picture would help (and some re-wording, I'm really lost ).

The second link leads to a completed squad of six IW I did last year. I'll be swapping the heads, changing a weapon or two, and mixing them in different squads for my army.

As they are "complete", rather than vow squads of 8 or 9 to account for them, I was suggesting painting six proxies as part of the vow - six new models to account for the completed ones.

Would save faffing around with odd squad numbers, and the points cost.

As for the MoT, I've had the brainstorm of black runic script, like a Deathwatch pauldron, on various armour pieces along with the shields......

[Captain Semper]

The MoT sounds great!

Now I'm still not 100% sure what you mean with the second link. They are complete models and even if you change the heads or the arms are too far gone for ETL. So I assume you want to paint six new models... I'm fine with that. Chaos Space Marine squads come between 5-10 models to be legit. So... what do you mean by proxy?

I am a bit confused.

[Tenebris]

I, Tenebris, Lord of Chaos and servant of the Ruinous Powers, answer the call of E TENEBRAE LUX and vow to complete from Codex: Chaos Space Marines; one Abaddon the Despoiler and one Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with Power Armor, Murder Sword, Spell Familiar and Ichor Blood of total value 500 points on or before August 1st. Success will bring eternal glory to the Dark Gods and failure will doom me to bear the Badge of Shame until the year-end.

 

PS: maybe I will add a Helbrute should my spare DV model arrive in time. 

 

Time is getting in short supply nowadays which is why I have made a small vow. Hopefully I will paint more in the summer but as it is this is what I can vow. I will edit later with the pictures. 

[Eldrick Shadowblade]

Thanks! I made them with baked sculpey.

It's really easy. Maybe I'll do a tutorial. You just need sculpey and a hand cranked pasta maker.

And the backpacks holes?

Oops! @ Forte I thought I included that. I have some special backpacks that im greenstuffing seperate for painting ease

[oldschoolsavant]

The MoT sounds great!

Now I'm still not 100% sure what you mean with the second link. They are complete models and even if you change the heads or the arms are too far gone for ETL. So I assume you want to paint six new models... I'm fine with that. Chaos Space Marine squads come between 5-10 models to be legit. So... what do you mean by proxy?

I am a bit confused.

I'll vow a squad of 10 Chosen.

The champion will be the completed guy from the link with the hammer, in order to match the new Chosen unit.

He's complete, so he can't count, but I've no other choice of mini that'd work.

Rather than vowing 9 Chosen, minus whatever a champion costs, and the weird points that'd result from this, can I paint a completely different model that'll play no part in the army, but will count towards the vow itself.

So, the 10 Chosen vow = 1 complete leader, 9 new Chosen, and an extra random mini to count for the completed one.

Therefore, I'll paint six new minis, for no points, to reflect the work. The six completed ones though will be in the squads, so it'll be finished pics of the final squads, plus a pic of the six who won't have a place.

I thought that'd be an easy workaround, rather than odd costs, but it's turning into anything but ! Guess it'll be weird points tomorrow once I've calculated this out.....

[Kol Saresk]

That could have been so much simpler.......

[GhostMalone]

That could have been so much simpler.......

This is chaos there is no simplicity in chaos

[Captain Semper]

Good to see the thrice damned taking on the Challenge! Welcome Tenebris! Fail and your soul will be fed to infernal chickens in the deepest crevices of the Eye! (or something to similar effect). :P

The MoT sounds great!

Now I'm still not 100% sure what you mean with the second link. They are complete models and even if you change the heads or the arms are too far gone for ETL. So I assume you want to paint six new models... I'm fine with that. Chaos Space Marine squads come between 5-10 models to be legit. So... what do you mean by proxy?

I am a bit confused.

I'll vow a squad of 10 Chosen.

The champion will be the completed guy from the link with the hammer, in order to match the new Chosen unit.

He's complete, so he can't count, but I've no other choice of mini that'd work.

Rather than vowing 9 Chosen, minus whatever a champion costs, and the weird points that'd result from this, can I paint a completely different model that'll play no part in the army, but will count towards the vow itself.

So, the 10 Chosen vow = 1 complete leader, 9 new Chosen, and an extra random mini to count for the completed one.

Therefore, I'll paint six new minis, for no points, to reflect the work. The six completed ones though will be in the squads, so it'll be finished pics of the final squads, plus a pic of the six who won't have a place.

I thought that'd be an easy workaround, rather than odd costs, but it's turning into anything but ! Guess it'll be weird points tomorrow once I've calculated this out.....

Got it (finally)... Go for it! :)

UPDATED TO THIS POINT!

[Bearingtheword]

If it's a Knight the vow it as a Knight. It's allowed in the rules.

Have to figure out what the point value is.... since it's being modeled to match the defi (weaponwise) rather than the Knight....Don't know how that works exactly.... ( TL LC's, Battle Cannon, Flamer, Powerfist) Some are new options on the Knight, some are not......

 

~BtW

[Forté]

 

 

If it's a Knight the vow it as a Knight. It's allowed in the rules.

Have to figure out what the point value is.... since it's being modeled to match the defi (weaponwise) rather than the Knight....Don't know how that works exactly.... ( TL LC's, Battle Cannon, Flamer, Powerfist) Some are new options on the Knight, some are not......

 

~BtW

But confused as to why you would want to field a Knight as a Defiler. It's much larger, less armoured, and puts out less damage.

[Chaeron]

If it looks like a Knight, and fights like a Knight... :p

 

I'm excited to get my vow started. What is our rough total compared to say other forums currently?