Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I use Royal Soverign shapers in the 0 and 2 sizes and the 'firm' rigidity. I've tried some of the softer clay shapers and didn't care for them. If you're up for a little converting of some plastic 40k legs, I did tutorial a couple years ago on converting mk VI legs to mk IV. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/283813-tutorial-converting-mk-vi-legs-to-mk-iv-legs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 My UM were going to be all MkII and III, but then they brought out the upgrades for MkIV... So I'll have a sprinkling of that in there. I'll see what they look like on MkII and III legs/bodies etc. Would you mind posting pics of a praetor helm (unglued) in a mk 2 torso? I have some MK3 bodies waiting for heads so I'll get a pic of that for you and I might have a MK2 whose head can be removed pretty easily. Any preference as to the helm? There are like 5 different heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 My UM were going to be all MkII and III, but then they brought out the upgrades for MkIV... So I'll have a sprinkling of that in there. I'll see what they look like on MkII and III legs/bodies etc. Would you mind posting pics of a praetor helm (unglued) in a mk 2 torso? I have some MK3 bodies waiting for heads so I'll get a pic of that for you and I might have a MK2 whose head can be removed pretty easily. Any preference as to the helm? There are like 5 different heads. any of the praetor ones should be fine. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 My UM were going to be all MkII and III, but then they brought out the upgrades for MkIV... So I'll have a sprinkling of that in there. I'll see what they look like on MkII and III legs/bodies etc. Would you mind posting pics of a praetor helm (unglued) in a mk 2 torso? I have some MK3 bodies waiting for heads so I'll get a pic of that for you and I might have a MK2 whose head can be removed pretty easily. Any preference as to the helm? There are like 5 different heads. any of the praetor ones should be fine. Thanks! I didn't even realise you'd asked me, sorry! I don't have them yet haha otherwise I would, luckily Reyners got a handle on things ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'll try get some images posted tonight for you guys - I'll add them as a link to my gallery so I don't clutter up my Captains thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'll try get some images posted tonight for you guys - I'll add them as a link to my gallery so I don't clutter up my Captains thread. Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Ok so I need some opinions. My army is going to based of the 4th company led by ventanus during Calth and the underworld war. Im thinking that mk 2 was still the most common armor mk amoung the 4th company with praetor only starting to come in. Does this sound reasonable, or would praetor be fairly common with the 4th? I know Ventanus himself still wears mk 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Around the time of the Heresy, Mk4 Maximus plate is in wide use (and the the latest official mark in mass production) so I'd say it's likely that the Praetor variant is probably more prevalent than the old Mk2 Crusade armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Around the time of the Heresy, Mk4 Maximus plate is in wide use (and the the latest official mark in mass production) so I'd say it's likely that the Praetor variant is probably more prevalent than the old Mk2 Crusade armour. I figured tho the ultramarines would have limited mk 4, due to horus giving it to the traitor legions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Around the time of the Heresy, Mk4 Maximus plate is in wide use (and the the latest official mark in mass production) so I'd say it's likely that the Praetor variant is probably more prevalent than the old Mk2 Crusade armour. I figured tho the ultramarines would have limited mk 4, due to horus giving it to the traitor legions? The Ultramarines start the War with several marques in use, including Mk4 plate. What with Praetor armour being a variant of Mk4 in production solely for the Ultramarines, it'd be the default equipment to replace wrecked kit or to issue to new space marines. It stands to reason there'd be more examples of Praetor armour (in local production) than Crusade armour (not in wide production). However, if you wish to use Mk2 armour, then by all means do so. It's not anyone's place, least of all myself, to tell you what you can or cannot model your army with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Around the time of the Heresy, Mk4 Maximus plate is in wide use (and the the latest official mark in mass production) so I'd say it's likely that the Praetor variant is probably more prevalent than the old Mk2 Crusade armour. I figured tho the ultramarines would have limited mk 4, due to horus giving it to the traitor legions? The Ultramarines start the War with several marques in use, including Mk4 plate. What with Praetor armour being a variant of Mk4 in production solely for the Ultramarines, it'd be the default equipment to replace wrecked kit or to issue to new space marines. It stands to reason there'd be more examples of Praetor armour (in local production) than Crusade armour (not in wide production). However, if you wish to use Mk2 armour, then by all means do so. It's not anyone's place, least of all myself, to tell you what you can or cannot model your army with. No i like all the feedback! Im sorta OCD for lore accuracy too :D. Heres a little snip for FW : Praetorian armour is a variant of Mk IV ‘Maximus’ pattern battle plate, produced in the factories of Ultramar for the most recently raised chapters of the Ultramarines. So, that quote leads me to believe that praetor was only widely used in the newest chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Well then, I now know what Armor Mark to do my Iron Snakes in then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 On a slightly different note, is there a hate for the ultramarines amoung this forum? On other forums ive been on i see lots of people calling them down and being fairly childish, but so far you guys seem really respectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 On a slightly different note, is there a hate for the ultramarines amoung this forum? On other forums ive been on i see lots of people calling them down and being fairly childish, but so far you guys seem really respectful. That really annoys me on other forums. It did even before I was an UM fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 On a slightly different note, is there a hate for the ultramarines amoung this forum? On other forums ive been on i see lots of people calling them down and being fairly childish, but so far you guys seem really respectful. Nah, we don't make fun of the Boy Scout Legion ;) They get better coverage in 30k...they actually feel like Ultramarines rather than the 40k Matt Ward special snowflake division. Know no Fear and UE were great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I wouldn't say there's hate, per se. There's the odd comment here and there, unfortunately, but the general consensus (I believe) is that if you're going to hate - properly straight up flamebait hate - on a faction, be prepared for others to call you out on being immature or living in the past. A little friendly banter might happen, but it's not meant in a malicious manner, unlike certain places outside B&C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Ok great to hear:) I dont mind people saying smurf here and there, but when they constantly try to be cool by bringing the XIII low it does get annoying. I do think alot of the people that do hate are the ones that maybe dont know alot about the lore, especially the 30k lore. But i knew you guys were respectful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Ok great to hear:) I dont mind people saying smurf here and there, but when they constantly try to be cool by bringing the XIII low it does get annoying. I do think alot of the people that do hate are the ones that maybe dont know alot about the lore, especially the 30k lore. But i knew you guys were respectful! Probably Alan Bligh wrote some really cool fluff in the book that we'll all like :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Tempest is ordered.....I wonder how long it will take to get here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 About a week or two depending on your location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Tempest is ordered.....I wonder how long it will take to get here. I have been consulting the book, and have beem discussing opinions and tactics on the forums. I have a pretty good grasp on how to make a strong Ultramarines legion list now, so ask me if you'd like some inspiration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'll hold my hands up and admit that when it comes to the 40K Ultramarines I refer to them as smurfs/Marysues and all other kinds of unflattering names since that's at the same level of artistic creativity we've been peddled. 30K Ultramarines however, nothing of the sort. I actually want to do them as a Legion project which says a hell of a lot on the quality of the writing in Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Tempest is ordered.....I wonder how long it will take to get here. I have been consulting the book, and have beem discussing opinions and tactics on the forums. I have a pretty good grasp on how to make a strong Ultramarines legion list now, so ask me if you'd like some inspiration! Would you mind telling me how telemechrus' rules are? And are the suzerian worth getting? I'll hold my hands up and admit that when it comes to the 40K Ultramarines I refer to them as smurfs/Marysues and all other kinds of unflattering names since that's at the same level of artistic creativity we've been peddled. 30K Ultramarines however, nothing of the sort. I actually want to do them as a Legion project which says a hell of a lot on the quality of the writing in Tempest Im a 30k guy, so i like to hear that. When it comes to 40k i honestly find all space marines a tad bland, and lacking character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Me too! I really didn't like Space Marines at all until I got into the 30k stuff. I don't think I'd play them in 40k at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 I NEED my copy of Tempest to arrive.....When i get it, i shall look at the portrait of ventnaus, and admire his hair. And yes fire golem, my first 40k army was Tau. I got my space marine army soley because of the horus heresy novels and at the time FW HH wasnt available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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