appiah4 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I don't care too much for most of the rumored stuff except split fire Devastators and free Flak. Most of that stuff canactually just be errata'ed in. That said, I don't mind referral to C:SM though, that would just mean I get another shiny book. I didn't mind buying it in 3rd edition, and I didn't mind buying it in 4th edition for the build your chapter rules to play C:BA with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4066463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 It'll be interesting to see. GW have shyed away from changing Marines too much for a while now, and this has left them behind somewhat. Some of the rumours indicate the nuts and bolts of marines are going to be changed, such as two wound terminators. Hopefully GW wouldn't do another 5th ed marine codex and leave some chapters wandering around with one shot cml's and 4++ Storm Shields. Most of the current rumours are probably wishlisting though - we don't get anything these days until someone gets the White Dwarf or Codex early. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4066579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'm so hopeful, so so hopeful. I am on the second, nay, third step to disappointment :D But if it all flops I suppose I could just spam DC and be done with it. Still fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4066588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meniscusmike Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'm so hopeful, so so hopeful. I am on the second, nay, third step to disappointment :D But if it all flops I suppose I could just spam DC and be done with it. Still fun. Indeed I find that there few problems in war gaming that can't be solved with more death company! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4066623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 One never has too many Death Company. Meanwhile, I need to boost mine to Apocalypse levels... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4066626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I was obsessed with the DC list back in the old chapter approved. My local GW always used to joke to my kid self that I could only ever use it in one battle as they'd all die afterward :D Pretty great you can basically do it now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4066641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezin70 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 So BA and DA are getting battleforces released when C:SM hits, could this go inline with our wishful thinking?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4068532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I like Blood Angels being divergent. BTW - FAQs seem to be released each MAY. Guess what month it is.... I still want: 2-wound terminators Rending Chainswords Ability for all Pintle Mounted weapons being able to overwatch Ability for Librarians to get Iron halos Unlimited range Whirlwinds Torrent for Flamestorm Cannons on Landraider Redeemers These would fix the game balance, and really make my games more fun... I forgot that I also wanted Siege Shields to give vehicles a Invulnerable save on the forward facing...like a 4++ or 3++... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4068559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Today's update showcases the BA-coloured assault squad they did on foot. I'm pretty sure that paintojob is just to demonstrate that the kit can also be used to make a Blood Angel assault squad from Codex Adeptus Astartes: Blood Angels and not any kind of hint worth walking the road to disappointment over, but the minis look really nice. The update very helpfully had this to say about them: http://i.imgur.com/xyebrDR.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4069025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Posted this in the rumour thread but it has a place here too: Obviously not concrete, but I've heard on the grapevine that the new dex will have FA Pods (obviously) but nothing with bulky, or worse than a 3+ save can use them, unless they are dedicated (maybe?). Would make sense, as it would curb allied pod nonsense. It would also force you to teleport your Termies in if wanting to deep strike (Fluffy) with Homer Support. Only thing is then you have access to non restrictive pods via Wolves and BA, which makes me think we're still getting a hell of an FAQ or this book is going to really unite the Marine factions for the better! This would also get rid of the Centurion Grav Pods some people are worried about. Not the Devs though... Although, with their new armored feet maybe Devs will become Bulky with slow and purposeful or something, as you probably couldn't fit 10 marines and four heavies in a pod anyway. The plot thickens and... Makes sense, but this is GW we're talking about! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4069132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Sounds very, very fishy that rumour. But, i'm just judging it based on the wording. Maybe "bulky" and bulkier cant. "No better than 3+ save...unless dedicated" seems like rampant fan-writing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4069466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Yeah I thought so too. But the previous Eldar Dex (or maybe 5th one) had something akin to that to stop the reapers and scorpions getting fleet or something if I recall so it's been done before. I will admit the "dedicated" was my own speculation on it, as it would let things like cents still take pods (if they have the option)! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4069523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm trying to not get my hopes up but.. I'm going to be massively disappointed if this turns out to be another Marine Copy/Paste codex with a few changes to special rules and a few new guns to sell some kits. Heck, I wouldn't be too upset If fundamental changes in the SM codex weren't carried over to BA - at least it would show that GW realise that Marines need a proper update. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4069670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'll keep my hopes low. "I'm soooo excited I can get a new book to replace the ragged, worn out version I have...and Oooh! It might have some new artwork up front!" After that, based on my years of history with the book, I'd expect less than 5 real changes, and one of those might be the "hidden cheese". Nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4070000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezin70 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'll keep my hopes low. "I'm soooo excited I can get a new book to replace the ragged, worn out version I have...and Oooh! It might have some new artwork up front!" After that, based on my years of history with the book, I'd expect less than 5 real changes, and one of those might be the "hidden cheese". Nothing more, nothing less. Way to buzzkill man. But more than likely you are correct. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4070223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Assault Squad Comedy moment: I saw the points cost for their RAS ans said "WHAT?!" very loudly in my office. Then I saw that you purchase Jump Packs separately In short, nothing to worry about here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Said it in the rumors thread already....we're still on top! I hope Raven Guard lose their ability to make jp troops worthwhile. It is us that deserves this chapter trait! Not gonna complain about the BSF and FC boni, though. Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Said it in the rumors thread already....we're still on top! I hope Raven Guard lose their ability to make jp troops worthwhile. It is us that deserves this chapter trait! Not gonna complain about the BSF and FC boni, though. Snorri Yellow card! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostiris Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Codex Space Marine Assault Squads can still take Razorbacks as a DT ? makes me hope that it was just missed in our codex and might be FAQ'd. Was probably intentional though :(. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Said it in the rumors thread already....we're still on top! I hope Raven Guard lose their ability to make jp troops worthwhile. It is us that deserves this chapter trait! Not gonna complain about the BSF and FC boni, though. Snorri Yellow card! Ah, grammar mistake? It is us who deserve....? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 More wishlisting: Tacs: 1 model per 5 models can take a weapon from the special or heavy weapon list, no restrictions ASM: 2 models can take a weapon from the special weapons list, no restrictions Devs: 4 models can take a wwapon from the heavy weapons list, no restrictions (4 heavy flamers or grav cannons ftw) Characters: can exchange their bolt pistol/bolt gun for a weapon from the special/heavy weapons list, put that BS 5 to use. I know none of this will happen, but hope dies last. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Said it in the rumors thread already....we're still on top! I hope Raven Guard lose their ability to make jp troops worthwhile. It is us that deserves this chapter trait! Not gonna complain about the BSF and FC boni, though. Snorri Yellow card! Ah, grammar mistake? It is us who deserve....? No, the whole "RG Chapter Trait should be BA" thing boils my blood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Said it in the rumors thread already....we're still on top! I hope Raven Guard lose their ability to make jp troops worthwhile. It is us that deserves this chapter trait! Not gonna complain about the BSF and FC boni, though. Snorri Yellow card! Ah, grammar mistake? It is us who deserve....? No, the whole "RG Chapter Trait should be BA" thing boils my blood. Ah, sorry to hear that, mate. No need to, though, it's just my opinion. Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Said it in the rumors thread already....we're still on top! I hope Raven Guard lose their ability to make jp troops worthwhile. It is us that deserves this chapter trait! Not gonna complain about the BSF and FC boni, though. Snorri Yellow card! Ah, grammar mistake? It is us who deserve....? No, the whole "RG Chapter Trait should be BA" thing boils my blood. Ah, sorry to hear that, mate. No need to, though, it's just my opinion. Snorri Haha :) The amount of whinging about it before we got our new book got under my skin, that's all :) Hence the yellow card! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Said it in the rumors thread already....we're still on top! I hope Raven Guard lose their ability to make jp troops worthwhile. It is us that deserves this chapter trait! Not gonna complain about the BSF and FC boni, though. Snorri Yellow card! Ah, grammar mistake? It is us who deserve....? No, the whole "RG Chapter Trait should be BA" thing boils my blood. Ah, sorry to hear that, mate. No need to, though, it's just my opinion. Snorri Haha The amount of whinging about it before we got our new book got under my skin, that's all Hence the yellow card! Which was probably due to my writings, mostly. Leaning towards Cato the elder, I used to end most of my posts with the sentence "By the way, I believe the RG CT should be ours" :D Snorri But back on topic. I don't think we're going to see too many changes in a FAQ, if one is about to be released, even. We didn't get any upgrades with the 6th SM codex, why would we do now? No Stormtalon, no Speeder Storm and no grav weapons. 2 of these we still don't have access to without allies. Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/3/#findComment-4071109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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