Isiah Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 We don't know that yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4094974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 The Terminator Weapons list could just be for IC's, not Sgts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4094980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissah Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Thanks. Let's hope we can combi all our terminators! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4094985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 My guess is no. The unit's entry will have all the available weapon options/upgrades for that unit. The Terminator Weapons list will be available to only those units that give them access to it. Â And that's usually termy-armoured ICs. Â The mechanics are as the current Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4094996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I think that is a reasonable prediction, Isiah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4094998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJD Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Wow it's as I'd hoped - Lion's Blade strike force fires overwatch at normal BS :woot:. Not so useful v non-assaulty armies, but still, not too shabby either. Â @ CL I very much doubt Deathwing will get Grim Resolve as they will retain Fearless. Â Cheers I Belial has Grim resolve so it's a decent shout that the other DW will Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Check the rumour thread in NR. I think someone got his Tau into our book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 So can Librarians still take bikes? Â Â Because I'm thinking of having a Libby hop on a bike, make a B-Line right into the enemy formation and immediately drop a permanent nerf on the enemy's best unit. Â Trolololol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Â Wow it's as I'd hoped - Lion's Blade strike force fires overwatch at normal BS :woot:. Not so useful v non-assaulty armies, but still, not too shabby either. Â @ CL I very much doubt Deathwing will get Grim Resolve as they will retain Fearless. Â Cheers I Belial has Grim resolve so it's a decent shout that the other DW will Hmmm yes interesting. Â Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 So can Librarians still take bikes?   Because I'm thinking of having a Libby hop on a bike, make a B-Line right into the enemy formation and immediately drop a permanent nerf on the enemy's best unit.  Trolololol   Looking at these rules, we really are the "Troll Angels" of the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015  So can Librarians still take bikes?   Because I'm thinking of having a Libby hop on a bike, make a B-Line right into the enemy formation and immediately drop a permanent nerf on the enemy's best unit.  Trolololol   Looking at these rules, we really are the "Troll Angels" of the Imperium.  We are the Sicilian Marines.  "That's a nice Wraithknight. Shame if anything happened to it." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonPhoenix Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 http://forums.warforge.ru/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=60288 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesiadidit Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 In the codex preview on belials page I didnt see inner circle or fearless, gosh I hope inner circle is still there for I enjoyed fearless HQs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadangel101 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Fearless is probably part of the Deathwing rule, or it's a special rule of the formation or detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Deathwing redemption force special rule:  Summon the deathwing: all units in your army gain a free teleport homer!!  Sacred standard: Relentless, fc, fearless Reroll morale and pinning checks (So no more fnp bubble and devestation dakka nonsense) Ravenwing and deathwing banners are unchanged  Warlord traits: Same as before though the order has been jazzed up a bit, turbo/run trait bonus now also applies to charging  Dark talon: rift cannon s10 ap2, on doubles on the scatter it causes a vortex Bomb removes models from play if they fail a leadership check, in addition to old rules  Nephilim: black swords now s7 ap3 and have missle lock Avenger hasn't changed  Ravenwing strike force rule:  All bikes (and jet bikes) reroll their jinkerinos save (jink), if you use the strike force detachment you don't need to make reserve rolls  Land speeder vengeance: 36" baybeh Dark shroud: units that charge from beneath her bubble are immune to over watch, icon of caliban grants stealth + fearless, still grants shrouded.  Deathwing command squad: Now has a sgt as a free upgrade Champion has new special rule: glory in death  Sammael in sableclaw is now a chariot, he can cc while onboard and preform a drive by vector strike of sorts  Spells: Primarus: mind wurm Seeds (see previous leaks) Rage blessing Blast attack wounds on 4+ always 2d6+2-leadership wounds Furious charge Auto fear for a full two turns of play Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadangel101 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 We still haven't seen whether or not we retain the librarius conclave... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I have that sinking feeling that all the awesome rules we read are tied to Formations, that will be fairly hard to field to due bad unit comp. And some tournaments may ban Formations, killing competitive DA. Just a thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMek83 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Nephilim is tad disapointing I was hoping s7 ap4 Avenger, but re-roll s7 missiles are good enough... but Dark Talon... ouch, wow... never see anything like comming. I am still sprinkling salt though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 more: deathwing knights: smite mode is now smash attacks at s10 ap1 and can be used unlimited numbers of times normal attacks now ap3 from ap2  deathwing vehicle: unchanged  rad grenades: no longer -1t, instead does two wounds on a result of a 6 to wound  deathwing assault: deepstrike automatically on a turn from 2-4, this includes dreadnoughts in pods (deathwing vehicle mandatory)  ravenwing strike force double core detachment bonus: for t1 no penalty for jinking  Ezekiel +1A instead of +1 ws  champion blade for rwcs and ccs no longer unweildly  monster slays now base s+2 ap1, two handed  azreals helmet bearer now works on a transport when embarked, beyond that no changes to exisitng special rules for him (beyond no longer making x troops)  sammael now fires all his guns on corvex at once (pc and storm bolters)   correction to above: dark talon forces an initiative test, if failed removed from play (not ld)  banners are counter attack and relentless Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 more: deathwing knights: smite mode is now smash attacks at s10 ap1 and can be used unlimited numbers of times normal attacks now ap3 from ap2 Not really, standard attacks are relic blade profile, smite is 1 attack powerfist (no unwieldy) at initiative unlimited use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 A lot of these rules being posted seem to be posted in incomplete forms. Please be aware. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015  monster slays now base s+2 ap1, two handed  Does it still have the dice roll effect? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenONE Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Leaked image of DWCS lists it as 200 points which partially confirms a fear i had which is that our DWT points would drop RELATIVE to SM rather than in line to their cost. Â So while they, DID go down, we may still be potentially paying more than our SM brothers, which means that they value our "chapter tactics" more than them. I cant wait a week!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Master Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 We still haven't seen whether or not we retain the librarius conclave... I believe we will, it's still on the Black Library and even mentions Interromancy, think the new discipline has been planned for a while. Â DM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 It seems I will use DA rules for my Death knights ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308624-dark-angels-rumors-update-codex-leaks-pg-28/page/22/#findComment-4095698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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