exsanguis Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Hey guys, So another list I've been toying with is a Terminator-heavy Iron Warriors list. As I already have a Fellbade this presents an interesting conundrum: I can't take Perty to enable deep-strike, so I'd need to foot slog. Of course in larger Apoc style games I could take both the Primarch and the Fellblade, but given how anal my meta is about 30k, and about playing at higher than 2k points, I don't think that will happen often. So here's what I've come up with so far: Iron Warriors 3k (3002pts)Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness)HQLegion PraetorCataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, Combi-Weapon, Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade Master of the LegionPride of the Legion TroopsLegion Terminator SquadCataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist, 9x Legion Terminators, 2x Reaper Autocannon Legion Terminator SquadCataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist, 9x Legion Terminators, 2x Reaper Autocannon Tyrant Siege Terminator Squad4x Tyrant Terminator Tyrant Siege Terminator Squad4x Tyrant Terminator ElitesContemptor Dreadnought TalonLegion Contemptor DreadnoughtDreadnought Close Combat Weapon with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, 2x Heavy Flamer Legion Contemptor DreadnoughtDreadnought Close Combat Weapon with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, 2x Heavy Flamer Legion Rapier Weapons BatteryLegion Rapier Weapons BatteryGraviton Cannon Legion Rapier Weapons BatteryGraviton Cannon Heavy SupportIron Havoc Support Squad9x Iron Havoc, 9x Missile Launcher (with Frag, Krak, & Flakk missiles) Iron Havoc SergeantAugury Scanner, Missile Launcher (with Frag, Krak, & Flakk missiles) LegionLegion AstartesIV: Iron Warriors Lord of WarLegion FellbladeArmoured Ceramite, Space Marine Legion Crew The premise is that each unit of Terminators would have an associated unit of Tyrants and a Contemptor to counter-assault any big nasties that might bog them down. The Rapiers are just something I already have, and I like the idea of pie plates that limit the enemies movement, since foot slogging Cataphractii are pretty damn slow. The Fellblade and the Havocs sit at the back of the board and soften up key targets for assault by the Terminators, with the Fellblade prioritizing other super heavies. The Praetor joins himself to one of the Termy blobs and will hopefully get to chop something up with this Paragon Blade before he gets blown off the table (he is mainly in the list to get PoTL). Any thoughts? Does another Legion do Terminator lists better, especially if they're walking? Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311421-iron-warriors-3k-potl/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Depends, what are you looking for your terminators to do? If its CC, WE, Sallies and IF do that pretty good either through sheer brutality of the unit (Red Butchers) or Resilience (IF Storm Shields, Sally Firedrakes). If its shooting, it depends on what kind of shooting. Anti-Armor shooting its Fulmentarus from the UM or Iron Tyrants from the IW. Anti-Horde, Larneans do it pretty great but most generic Terminators can do it just as well since they can also take Volkite and swap 1in5 for a Heavy Flamer. Though for a list like this, I'd say go full bore on Tyrants. Just load up on them. I made a 3k list that might suit your needs since it has 30 Tyrants and Perturabo meaning they can all Deepstrike T1 if needed and drown the enemy in either 60 Krak Missiles of 60 Frag Missiles. Then, you got 3 Deredeos for more shooting but with the Antomantic Pavise to turn the Tyrants 4++ into a 3++ for more resiliency. And since they still have skyfire, that base is covered. It also has Perturabo with Forgebreaker. Can't go wrong with him. Edit: heres an old-ish post I made on Terminators http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308053-pride-of-the-legion-row/?p=4055403 and http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/299162-terminator-wing-armies/?hl=terminator#entry3900723 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311421-iron-warriors-3k-potl/#findComment-4127722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsanguis Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 As always your advice is most welcome Slip! How about this: Iron Warriors 3k (2995pts) Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) HQ Legion CenturionCataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon ConsulPrimus Medicae Troops Legion Terminator SquadCataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist, 9x Legion Terminators, 2x Plasma Blaster Legion Terminator SquadCataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist, 9x Legion Terminators, 2x Plasma Blaster Tyrant Siege Terminator Squad9x Tyrant Terminator Tyrant Siege Terminator Squad9x Tyrant Terminator Tyrant Siege Terminator Squad9x Tyrant Terminator Legion Legion AstartesIV: Iron Warriors Lord of War The Primarch PerturaboAfter Istvaan Master of the LegionPride of the Legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311421-iron-warriors-3k-potl/#findComment-4127784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 That many Obsec Terminators pumping out that much firepower will be hard to displace. Just make sure you plan ahead during deployment since once they're on the board, they wont really be all that maneuverable. Luckily, you have Split Fire on the Tyrants due to the Omniscopes and Perturabo has Unlimited Orbital Bombardments so you shouldnt have much of a Target Saturation problem. As for the Primus, hes still a Support officer so hes not a compulsory choice. Its why I took a Siege Breaker since He'd give a Squad's Missile Launchers Tank Hunters; making them more threatening to Armor. Just make sure you always approach Spartans from more than one angle or you'll be doing squat to it. For the Theme, it works. But if you're playing Maelstrom, if you want to win the objective game, that means spreading out your Terminators across the board to land them on objectives (or close enough) and we all know how tough/flimsy 10 Terminators can be at times, so just be aware of that. This will very much be a Finesse Army, thats for sure. If you ever make this a reality, I'd love to hear about its performance! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311421-iron-warriors-3k-potl/#findComment-4127792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Luckily, you have Split Fire on the Tyrants due to the Omniscopes and Perturabo has Unlimited Orbital Bombardments so you shouldnt have much of a Target Saturation problem. Hate to nitpick but he doesn't have unlimited orbital bombardments, he can only use it once per game in the shooting phase - it's in the paragraph rather than the text for the weapon profile itself Other than that, agree with a lot of what you've said! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311421-iron-warriors-3k-potl/#findComment-4128488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Luckily, you have Split Fire on the Tyrants due to the Omniscopes and Perturabo has Unlimited Orbital Bombardments so you shouldnt have much of a Target Saturation problem. Hate to nitpick but he doesn't have unlimited orbital bombardments, he can only use it once per game in the shooting phase - it's in the paragraph rather than the text for the weapon profile itself Other than that, agree with a lot of what you've said! Thats what happens when I read its profile and dont see "one-use" and make assumptions, LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311421-iron-warriors-3k-potl/#findComment-4128819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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