Doctor Perils Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Slips, thanks for the work done yesterday. One more request, could you pin the Points Calculator? Wouldn't it be possible instead to create a pinned "index"? There's so many pinned articles already, they're going to become complicated to navigate too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4487944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 We can do that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Yeah, just create a thread that links to the other ones of import and I'll pin that one. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) I've made it. Would people mind if we left the General Discussion thread still pinned? So, two pins, Discussion & Index??  Also, there are several threads I found in the dark zone (anything past page 2) that conflict with more recent ones. I suggest we combine the Armies of the Mechanicum with the newer Titans thread. Not sure if we can fit the Questoris Familia thread in there, too. It's pretty big. Edited September 2, 2016 by simison Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 That sounds sensible to me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Just a thought that occured: Given the greater length of the Great Crusade, might not more variants of termie armour have been developped? So maybe a pattern for underwater engagements or another one that takes advice from boarding specialist legions about what they need and makes a more effective boarding terminator armour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) Pionus developed a variant of Tartaros for that reason, the Ceta pattern (along with Cyma pattern Mk IV) By the way, could one of you pict-wizards do us an updated version of this? With a Nightguard and maybe a Shepherd added. For extra points, you could add the Legion symbol above, below or next to each marine. For extra extra points, a shield for the Lion and a volkite for the Lightning Bearer. Edited September 3, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 If we go with half the Primarchs (as Mortarion tells us were present at one of the canon Lost Legion incidents, hence how many I included in Executio), this is what I'd suggest: - Icarion - Alexandros - Morro - Pionus - Hec - Andezo - Gwal - Yucahu - Daer'dd  Going partly by who'd have the most reason to be there, and who'd provide some good material to work with in the story. I think Kozja has replaced Yucahu, but other than that and maybe swapping Koschei with Andezo I'm happy with this lineup. One thing that's occurred to me is that surely this is a sensible time to bring in the Nightguard, and even have some of them and the Custodians with Russ?  I'm not familiar with the paternova Thorn mentioned. Can anyone clarify for me? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 And add the warden of light with his signature skirt? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 By the way, could one of you pict-wizards do us an updated version of this? With a Nightguard and maybe a Shepherd added. For extra points, you could add the Legion symbol above, below or next to each marine. For extra extra points, a shield for the Lion and a volkite for the Lightning Bearer. Don't forget the Ghost Walker needs to be replaced with a Predator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Who? ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 By the way, could one of you pict-wizards do us an updated version of this? With a Nightguard and maybe a Shepherd added. For extra points, you could add the Legion symbol above, below or next to each marine. For extra extra points, a shield for the Lion and a volkite for the Lightning Bearer. Don't forget the Ghost Walker needs to be replaced with a Predator. That's what I meant by updated. Also bonus additional extra points for putting a black visor on the Scion's helmet, as per Slips' description Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 More musings on Prospero - for Icarion, the impact is greater than it is for perhaps any other Primarch, partly because it marks his failure to restrain Magnus' use of his powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 In what ways did he try to restrain magnus? What about alex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The Librarius is largely Icarion's brainchild, with the same intent the Khan had Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Okilly dokilly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I'm not familiar with the paternova Thorn mentioned. Can anyone clarify for me? Â The Paternova of the navigators. I'd started working on him for the Grand Councils, but that thread didn't get much attention, so my excitement sort of fizzled out :( Â But I still plan on getting something done for him :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4488875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Inspiration hasn't been striking for the book 3 fluff recently so I took a break and put some thought into potential variants on the Imperial Creed once Alex legalises it. Â Calvinean Ecclesiarchy Founded upon the battlefields of Calvine during the Scouring, the Calvinean branch of the imperial creed has one fundamental belief: when the Emperor was mortally wounded upon Terra and as he was interred in the Golden Throne, the Emperor's soul fragmented. Only a small morsel of it stayed in his earthly form. The billions upon billions of fragments of his soul that were scattered found refuge within the wider mass of humanity. Seeing that he would no longer be able to protect humanity in person, the Emperor had instead chosen to impart a portion of his strength and will to each of his subjects so that they could protect themselves. Calvineans believe that the only souls the Emperor will save upon the last day are those who used the power he gave them to save themselves and humanity through their self sacrifice. For Calvineans, the purest death is death in battle against the Emperor's foes. Those who die in such a maner will be granted the ultimate honour: the morsel of his strength the Emperor gave them shall rejoin the Emperor's consciousness, bringing him one step closer to re awakening. Â Â Thoran Ecclesiarchy Believe the Emperor allowed himself to be struck down on Terra in order to test his subject's faith. Only the elect few who's faith held strong and who didn't give in to despair in spite of hardship would be saved. The Thoran branch of the imperial faith believe that the faith of each individual must be tested every day and they must hold true to the course set for humanity by the Emperor in order to be saved. Because of this, Thorans live by strict set of 10 commandments which test them to temper the faith. Â Purist Ecclesiarchy Believe that salvation by the Emperor is not something that can be altered by a human's actions. Instead, it is pre ordained by the purity of the human's form. Those whose form echoes that of the Emperor are those who are to be saved. Those whose form is that of a mutant are the damned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4489060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 Like most of it, not sure if the 10 commandments reference is too on the nose. Does the Emperor have a favored number? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4489086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Like most of it, not sure if the 10 commandments reference is too on the nose. Does the Emperor have a favored number? 20? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4489090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 18^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4489165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 Hm, yeah, I guess that's the only numbers we have to work with. So, have either 20 or 18 commandments...or both. Perhaps have the number of commandments cause a schism a millennia or two down the road between 20 or 18, whether it be violent or peaceful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4489173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Connect them all to the primarchs.:  1. The storm : don't revolt against the father 3. Lions roar: the voice of the emperor is a holy blabla   And so on. Creative guys. Your work. I work atm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4489184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Wouldn't a better number be the number of sons who stay loyal to the Emperor (7?)? I suspect that any faith would not want to bring up memories of the great schism that tore the Imperium apart and resulted in the Emperor's fall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4489186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Â Â I'm not familiar with the paternova Thorn mentioned. Can anyone clarify for me? Â The Paternova of the navigators. I'd started working on him for the Grand Councils, but that thread didn't get much attention, so my excitement sort of fizzled out :(Â But I still plan on getting something done for him :) Ah, OK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/140/#findComment-4489189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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